If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stanford, USC and UCLA are highly regarded in Taiwan

Stanford, yes.

USC - ha! No.

Isn't USC an acronym for "University of So many [Rich] Chinese"? I always thought it's a backup school for rich kids from Asia.

NO. It’s the University of Spoiled Children and we Californians called it that long before Varsity Blues. The overseas Chinese value UCLA and Cal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stanford, USC and UCLA are highly regarded in Taiwan

Stanford, yes.

USC - ha! No.

Isn't USC an acronym for "University of So many [Rich] Chinese"? I always thought it's a backup school for rich kids from Asia.

NO. It’s the University of Spoiled Children and we Californians called it that long before Varsity Blues. The overseas Chinese value UCLA and Cal.

+100

[Anonymous]

On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.

Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.

Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.

Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.

Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.

Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.

[Anonymous]

I live in South Korea and I would think of HYP, Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, and Johns Hopkins to be elite and prestigious. However, don’t expect your average Korean to know all these schools. This is among the international Koreans/the wealthy and elite in this country who travel and/or study abroad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.

Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.

Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.

Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.

Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.

Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.

Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.

[Anonymous]

It’s 2022, “Foreigners” have access to the internet and read the same newspaper articles and rankings listing as locals do.

Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Johns Hopkins, UC (Berkeley/LA), CalTech, Duke, U Chicago, Rice, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, NYU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.

Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.

Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.

Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.

Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.

Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.

Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.

Oxford and Cambridge have more name recognition among masses but St Andrews and LSE are very well known and desirable among international applicants, no matter if they are coming from USA or India or China etc.

[Anonymous]

Harvard, UC Berkeley and NYU are most well known names among internationals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.

Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.

Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.

Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.

Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.

Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.

Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.

Oxford and Cambridge have more name recognition among masses but St Andrews and LSE are very well known and desirable among international applicants, no matter if they are coming from USA or India or China etc.

No they are not! Lots of threads on this already. LSE is know as "Let's See Europe". It is not "desirable" by international applicants. Only if you can't get into the more elite schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.

Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.

Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.

Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.

Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.

Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.

Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.

Oxford and Cambridge have more name recognition among masses but St Andrews and LSE are very well known and desirable among international applicants, no matter if they are coming from USA or India or China etc.

No they are not! Lots of threads on this already. LSE is know as "Let's See Europe". It is not "desirable" by international applicants. Only if you can't get into the more elite schools

Not the earlier poster but I did a degree at Oxford and LSE was considered equally rigorous and more cosmopolitan. St Andrews is not in the same category but I agree it has some recognition primarily due to Will and Kate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in South Korea and I would think of HYP, Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, and Johns Hopkins to be elite and prestigious. However, don’t expect your average Korean to know all these schools. This is among the international Koreans/the wealthy and elite in this country who travel and/or study abroad.

Also Korean and I would throw in NYU, Berkeley and UCLA in there as well in terms of pure name recognition. UCLA merchandise in particular has always been everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.

Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.

Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.

Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.

Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.

Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.

Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.

Oxford and Cambridge have more name recognition among masses but St Andrews and LSE are very well known and desirable among international applicants, no matter if they are coming from USA or India or China etc.

No they are not! Lots of threads on this already. LSE is know as "Let's See Europe". It is not "desirable" by international applicants. Only if you can't get into the more elite schools

Not the earlier poster but I did a degree at Oxford and LSE was considered equally rigorous and more cosmopolitan. St Andrews is not in the same category but I agree it has some recognition primarily due to Will and Kate.

This is false. No one in college thinks Oxford and LSE are equal unless you are splitting hairs over a specific program

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.

Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.

Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.

Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.

Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.

Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.

That's absurd -- Penn's football program sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming that UCLA is underrepresented on this thread because of an east coast bias. There's no way that schools like UVA, UMD or Amherst have better international recognition than UCLA. That's just silly.

UC Berkeley was mentioned several times.

UCLA is a different school

[Anonymous]

UCLA, UC Berkeley