Taylor's Feb. Rec for Woodward Boundary Study

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is the demographics of the new WJ. Do the math.

It’s another Whitman (less diverse and richer than current WJ) while Woodward is just a mile away and will be a very different school.

What do you mean by different?

Wealth. A lot less of it.

Don’t turn on the new Woodward families when MCPS divided the schools and even the WJ cluster in an unexpected way. The way they split KP and GP puts all the single family homes in WJ rather than Woodward.

Is there a more close up map to show where gp and kp split?

GPES has many multi family houses still going to WJ. The Parkside condos, stoneybrook, apts near Grosvenor.

The islands from GPES that didn’t get WJ make complete sense. They should go to Woodward. One is directly next to Woodward.

Option B was the right call.

They will do elementary boundary soon to mitigate some of the split articulation issues. KPES is under capacity and Ashburton is over capacity. It will get resolved.

Looks like all the Option B signs on Strathmore worked.

They were desperate to avoid Woodward.

I won't celebrate yet. MCPS may not ceoncentrate poverty in Woodward and make both schools more similar in final approval. It will depend on how hard Old Farm/North FArm and Luxmanor area lobbies.

As they should have been desperate to avoid Woodward. Fashion design? It grabs from Wheaton Woods now too. No thank you

Attention will be on Wootton. This Woodward rec is done deal.

Note that Taylor only submitted this rec for Woodward. In the Crown study he submitted a recommendation plus an alternative.

The BOE members can if they want to not appear completely useless stand up bravely against racial segregation by moving Viers Mill ES to WJ.

You lost credibility there. VM “improved” from Wheaton to Woodward too. You don’t see VM clamoring for WJ. GPE and KPE keeps status quo for its core.

I am from VM and prefer WJ.

Same. It’s a perfect solution. Move VM to WJ. Move all of GP to Woodward. FARMS rates are more evenly distributed. GP remains united just like they want

You are for the redistribution of wealth to VM. Shocking perspective for someone who lives in VM. You want to be able to better afford your addition. Woodward is an upgrade. You instead want to take WJ from GP where they have decades long relationship.

I have just as much a right as you do to advocate for what’s best for my child. Unlike you, I am advocating for something that would benefit the majority of the Woodward and WJ area as well

Slinging nonsense on message boards is not advocacy.

Agree here. Providing great ideas here is not going to help. Best idea is to start gathering your communities and write/meet with BOE to discuss and present ideas.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is the demographics of the new WJ. Do the math.

It’s another Whitman (less diverse and richer than current WJ) while Woodward is just a mile away and will be a very different school.

What do you mean by different?

Wealth. A lot less of it.

Don’t turn on the new Woodward families when MCPS divided the schools and even the WJ cluster in an unexpected way. The way they split KP and GP puts all the single family homes in WJ rather than Woodward.

Is there a more close up map to show where gp and kp split?

GPES has many multi family houses still going to WJ. The Parkside condos, stoneybrook, apts near Grosvenor.

The islands from GPES that didn’t get WJ make complete sense. They should go to Woodward. One is directly next to Woodward.

Option B was the right call.

They will do elementary boundary soon to mitigate some of the split articulation issues. KPES is under capacity and Ashburton is over capacity. It will get resolved.

Looks like all the Option B signs on Strathmore worked.

They were desperate to avoid Woodward.

I won't celebrate yet. MCPS may not ceoncentrate poverty in Woodward and make both schools more similar in final approval. It will depend on how hard Old Farm/North FArm and Luxmanor area lobbies.

As they should have been desperate to avoid Woodward. Fashion design? It grabs from Wheaton Woods now too. No thank you

Attention will be on Wootton. This Woodward rec is done deal.

Note that Taylor only submitted this rec for Woodward. In the Crown study he submitted a recommendation plus an alternative.

The BOE members can if they want to not appear completely useless stand up bravely against racial segregation by moving Viers Mill ES to WJ.

You lost credibility there. VM “improved” from Wheaton to Woodward too. You don’t see VM clamoring for WJ. GPE and KPE keeps status quo for its core.

I am from VM and prefer WJ.

Same. It’s a perfect solution. Move VM to WJ. Move all of GP to Woodward. FARMS rates are more evenly distributed. GP remains united just like they want[b]

Yes, I see no harms in it and see many positives.

Is there a theory on why this wasn't done already?

Not enough noise from Old Farm/North Farm/Luxmanor families. Loud voices got heard so far.

Probably won’t hear from them. Not the loud type.
But mcps should still do the right thing here.

If they are not loud type then they are going to be run over by loud types.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly the loss of diversity is a big loss for WJ. That is part of what makes it such a special place. I’m sorry for them.

It’s massively over crowded and over rated.

Feel sorry because less diversity? It’s about the same. Just less kids total.

Black goes UP from 15.9 to 16.2
Asian goes down from 14.5 to 12.5
Hispanic goes down from 18.5 to 15
2 or more races goes UP from 6.6 to 7.3

It is essentially the same.

But it’s a weird thing to feel sorry about even if it weren’t it essentially the same diversity.

Woodward people are just annoyed more poor kids go to their school than WJ.

WJ FARMS stays essentially the same as it is now. Maybe it will stay “special”.

With 77% capacity? To make room for all the new multimillion dollar homes going up in Bethesda and GP.

To make room for all the new apartment and condo construction. Have you seen all the recent development near Montgomery mall?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly the loss of diversity is a big loss for WJ. That is part of what makes it such a special place. I’m sorry for them.

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It's a big blow to WJ.

It can be easily corrected by BOE.

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Anonymous wrote:More people selected Option B than any other option.

3490 of 6462 responses selected B.
998 of the 3490 selected only B.

Taylor gave the people what they want.

It shouldn't be a voting excercise. It should be what's best for all students.

For example, most parents did not wanted to move form Churvcill to Wooton despite both being good shcool.

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Of course VM would love to move to WJ. Who wouldn’t want to see their property value dramatically jump? In truth? Woodward will be a step up for them anyway. VM property values will most definitely increase by being moved to Woodward

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Anonymous wrote:Woodward is under capacity too. And kids can do fashion design. And minority white. Diversity is a good thing.

I am guessing this is a happy WJ poster trolling.

Yes, constantly trolling due to being happy to become Whitman 2.0

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Anonymous wrote:Of course VM would love to move to WJ. Who wouldn’t want to see their property value dramatically jump? In truth? Woodward will be a step up for them anyway. VM property values will most definitely increase by being moved to Woodward

No need to project your thinking to everyone.

VM moving to WJ will create two well balanced schools without concentrating poverty in one school. Many poeple think about that and just about property value. That's too shallow.

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Yesssss! Who should we sacrifice in the name of balancing FARMs? GP? KP?

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I would love to see,

BCC
WJ
Woodward

3 solid schools around 20% FARMS. It will help all students. It's puzzling to see Super not go for this when there are no drawbacks of doing it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesssss! Who should we sacrifice in the name of balancing FARMs? GP? KP?

Why anyone needs to sacrifice?

If WJ and Woodward both are around 20% FARMS then going to any school will be equally good.

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Anonymous wrote:I would love to see,

BCC
WJ
Woodward

3 solid schools around 20% FARMS. It will help all students. It's puzzling to see Super not go for this when there are no drawbacks of doing it.

Arbitrary 20% line is not what makes a good school or not

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Anonymous wrote:Yesssss! Who should we sacrifice in the name of balancing FARMs? GP? KP?

Why anyone needs to sacrifice?

If WJ and Woodward both are around 20% FARMS then going to any school will be equally good.

No way. Fashion and video game design. That’s laughable lol. Sorry farmland and Luxmanor you lose twice.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesssss! Who should we sacrifice in the name of balancing FARMs? GP? KP?

It’s over but if you have to pick, Wyngate.

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Anonymous wrote:I would love to see,

BCC
WJ
Woodward

3 solid schools around 20% FARMS. It will help all students. It's puzzling to see Super not go for this when there are no drawbacks of doing it.

Arbitrary 20% line is not what makes a good school or not

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