Petition to Rescind the appointment of AP at Rock Creek Valley ES

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I sat in court for the trial and feel compelled to respond to Moms statement.

First, the decision for her son to testify is a parent decision. If she didn’t want her son to testify she should have not allowed it. He testified because parents permitted it.

Her son did not provide clear testimony and was clearly confused on the stand. I agree he should never have testified but that’s what the parents permitted.

The video is not clear. We all saw in the courtroom that Mr. Winter stomps his foot but we did not see any contact made. Moco360 has not been fair with the reporting of this at all. You cannot see any contact made.

The judge in making her ruling pointed out that the child does not react as if contact had been made. Mom provides clear proof of that when she shares the 8000 nerve endings which only supports the lack of a reaction and the judges decision.

If her son was in such intense pain why did he not see the nurse? Why didn’t the assistant principal send him to the nurse when she learned of the accusation. The AP admitted he never went to the nurse.

Mom is also slanderous to Mr. Winter expressing thoughts that he has harmed other children when there is no proof whatsoever that has occurred.

Again, I was in court that day heard the testimony, saw the video, and it was clear that this was a very poor case that never should have gone to trial. Judge Burrell clearly felt even in the most favorable light that the prosecution did not present clear evidence, nor witnesses that provided credibility that a crime occurred.

I also was in court and agree with this completely. Winter was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. He deserves to work again. People need to accept that and stop this madness!

Yeah what's important is to make it easy for MCPS to shuffle people who shouldn't be around kids to different schools. Parents should know their place and not question the safety of their kids.

I don't have a particular opinion on this case, but I do have an opinion on whether parents are part of the human resources team at any school. They are not. Just as I don't expect to make personnel decisions at Safeway just because I shop there, I don't expect to have a say in HR processes at mcps just because my kids attend a certain school.

Okay, that’s just BS. If this is the case, then why are parents included on interview panels for administrators? Parents are stakeholders. They are leaving their children for 6-7 hours in the care of adults. It’s reasonable for them to have some say. If I ever have to leave my kids alone at Safeway for hours and hours because it’s required by law (like compulsory schooling is), I guess I might want to be engaged in the HR processes there.

I don't believe there are interview panels for assistant principals.

Oh come on now. The point is that the community DOES have a huge say in everything that goes on in a school. As they should. Safeway does not have a PTA equivalent lol. Again, GTFO

That is nowhere near true.

It is. As a parent I sit in on my school’s leadership meetings every month. There is also PTA meetings. There are also many many surveys and decisions made by vote (calendars for example)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A statement from mom of the child in the video:
Despite being just 6 years old and autistic, my son bravely testified but was subjected to questions far beyond his developmental level—questions the defense exploited. What 6-year-old can recall what they had for lunch or a statement they made eight months prior? This treatment was deeply unfair. My son should not have had to testify, especially with clear video evidence, and the judge should not have placed so much weight on the testimony of a 6-year old. Judge Sharon Burrell’s decision on 11/25 felt predetermined and dismissed critical evidence, leaving my family and me deeply disheartened. Her ruling did not make any sense and was a poor excuse to recuse herself from this case and protect MCPS. She had an attitude from the beginning, impatient and unsympathetic to my 6-year-old autistic son who was assaulted and has never been in court. Judge Burrell claimed my son displayed no outward signs of pain, ignoring both the video evidence and my son’s clear testimony about his suffering. Her dismissal of this evidence sends a dangerous message about the acceptability of physical violence in schools. He screamed and cried out when this 200-pound man grabbed him to force him to sit down, then stomped on his foot as if he were crushing a bug or putting out a cigarette. My son, who is barely 50 pounds and has very narrow feet, experienced intense pain—how could he not? The feet are incredibly sensitive, containing approximately 8,000 nerve endings. To give a clear depiction of the video Judge Burrell referenced: it begins with Andrew grabbing my son by the hoodie, pulling him backward toward a cafeteria table seat to force him to sit down. When that wasn’t enough, Andrew turned his back to the camera and stomped on my child’s tiny foot. Then, like a true abuser, Andrew sat next to his victim, wrapping his arm around him in a manipulative attempt to stop him from crying and to deflect attention from the situation. This makes me wonder—what else has he done to my son or other children throughout his career if he felt emboldened enough to assault a 6-year-old with a disability in a crowded cafeteria, on camera, and unprovoked? All of this happened because of a misunderstanding and my son needing to use the bathroom multiple times during his lunch hour. This ruling not only failed my son but also failed to protect other children from similar abuse. It is imperative that school systems implement stricter protections against physical violence by staff. Andrew had more than 100 different approaches he could have taken to get my kindergartener to comply—he did not need to abuse his authority and resort to physical violence. The fact that my son was physically assaulted by his principal so early in his schooling, combined with the possibility that Andrew will continue working with children, is both terrifying and disheartening.

Where was this posted? Can you share a link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess the RCV parents won.

Winter will not be principal and they did a fantastic job slamming his character all over social media.

Where do you see that? I have never seen MCPS take a petition seriously. Did they this time?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the RCV parents won.

Winter will not be principal and they did a fantastic job slamming his character all over social media.

Where do you see that? I have never seen MCPS take a petition seriously. Did they this time?

It was a letter sent to all RCV community members from Dr Taylor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the RCV parents won.

Winter will not be principal and they did a fantastic job slamming his character all over social media.

Where do you see that? I have never seen MCPS take a petition seriously. Did they this time?

It was a letter sent to all RCV community members from Dr Taylor

wow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the RCV parents won.

Winter will not be principal and they did a fantastic job slamming his character all over social media.

Where do you see that? I have never seen MCPS take a petition seriously. Did they this time?

It was a letter sent to all RCV community members from Dr Taylor

Whhhhhhat? Wow. Please post Taylor's letter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the RCV parents won.

Winter will not be principal and they did a fantastic job slamming his character all over social media.

Where do you see that? I have never seen MCPS take a petition seriously. Did they this time?

It was a letter sent to all RCV community members from Dr Taylor

Whhhhhhat? Wow. Please post Taylor's letter.

Is it even true? Where is the letter?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I sat in court for the trial and feel compelled to respond to Moms statement.

First, the decision for her son to testify is a parent decision. If she didn’t want her son to testify she should have not allowed it. He testified because parents permitted it.

Her son did not provide clear testimony and was clearly confused on the stand. I agree he should never have testified but that’s what the parents permitted.

The video is not clear. We all saw in the courtroom that Mr. Winter stomps his foot but we did not see any contact made. Moco360 has not been fair with the reporting of this at all. You cannot see any contact made.

The judge in making her ruling pointed out that the child does not react as if contact had been made. Mom provides clear proof of that when she shares the 8000 nerve endings which only supports the lack of a reaction and the judges decision.

If her son was in such intense pain why did he not see the nurse? Why didn’t the assistant principal send him to the nurse when she learned of the accusation. The AP admitted he never went to the nurse.

Mom is also slanderous to Mr. Winter expressing thoughts that he has harmed other children when there is no proof whatsoever that has occurred.

Again, I was in court that day heard the testimony, saw the video, and it was clear that this was a very poor case that never should have gone to trial. Judge Burrell clearly felt even in the most favorable light that the prosecution did not present clear evidence, nor witnesses that provided credibility that a crime occurred.

I also was in court and agree with this completely. Winter was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. He deserves to work again. People need to accept that and stop this madness!

Yeah what's important is to make it easy for MCPS to shuffle people who shouldn't be around kids to different schools. Parents should know their place and not question the safety of their kids.

I don't have a particular opinion on this case, but I do have an opinion on whether parents are part of the human resources team at any school. They are not. Just as I don't expect to make personnel decisions at Safeway just because I shop there, I don't expect to have a say in HR processes at mcps just because my kids attend a certain school.

Okay, that’s just BS. If this is the case, then why are parents included on interview panels for administrators? Parents are stakeholders. They are leaving their children for 6-7 hours in the care of adults. It’s reasonable for them to have some say. If I ever have to leave my kids alone at Safeway for hours and hours because it’s required by law (like compulsory schooling is), I guess I might want to be engaged in the HR processes there.

I don't believe there are interview panels for assistant principals.

Oh come on now. The point is that the community DOES have a huge say in everything that goes on in a school. As they should. Safeway does not have a PTA equivalent lol. Again, GTFO

That is nowhere near true.

It is. As a parent I sit in on my school’s leadership meetings every month. There is also PTA meetings. There are also many many surveys and decisions made by vote (calendars for example)

+1 It is part of MCPS's process to include community stakeholders in principal position interviews.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2022_reports/OLOReport2022-11.pdf

[Anonymous]

Check out the status of the petition. “Victory” . It’s true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sat in court for the trial and feel compelled to respond to Moms statement.

First, the decision for her son to testify is a parent decision. If she didn’t want her son to testify she should have not allowed it. He testified because parents permitted it.

Her son did not provide clear testimony and was clearly confused on the stand. I agree he should never have testified but that’s what the parents permitted.

The video is not clear. We all saw in the courtroom that Mr. Winter stomps his foot but we did not see any contact made. Moco360 has not been fair with the reporting of this at all. You cannot see any contact made.

The judge in making her ruling pointed out that the child does not react as if contact had been made. Mom provides clear proof of that when she shares the 8000 nerve endings which only supports the lack of a reaction and the judges decision.

If her son was in such intense pain why did he not see the nurse? Why didn’t the assistant principal send him to the nurse when she learned of the accusation. The AP admitted he never went to the nurse.

Mom is also slanderous to Mr. Winter expressing thoughts that he has harmed other children when there is no proof whatsoever that has occurred.

Again, I was in court that day heard the testimony, saw the video, and it was clear that this was a very poor case that never should have gone to trial. Judge Burrell clearly felt even in the most favorable light that the prosecution did not present clear evidence, nor witnesses that provided credibility that a crime occurred.

I also was in court and agree with this completely. Winter was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. He deserves to work again. People need to accept that and stop this madness!

Yeah what's important is to make it easy for MCPS to shuffle people who shouldn't be around kids to different schools. Parents should know their place and not question the safety of their kids.

I don't have a particular opinion on this case, but I do have an opinion on whether parents are part of the human resources team at any school. They are not. Just as I don't expect to make personnel decisions at Safeway just because I shop there, I don't expect to have a say in HR processes at mcps just because my kids attend a certain school.

Okay, that’s just BS. If this is the case, then why are parents included on interview panels for administrators? Parents are stakeholders. They are leaving their children for 6-7 hours in the care of adults. It’s reasonable for them to have some say. If I ever have to leave my kids alone at Safeway for hours and hours because it’s required by law (like compulsory schooling is), I guess I might want to be engaged in the HR processes there.

I don't believe there are interview panels for assistant principals.

Oh come on now. The point is that the community DOES have a huge say in everything that goes on in a school. As they should. Safeway does not have a PTA equivalent lol. Again, GTFO

That is nowhere near true.

It is. As a parent I sit in on my school’s leadership meetings every month. There is also PTA meetings. There are also many many surveys and decisions made by vote (calendars for example)

+1 It is part of MCPS's process to include community stakeholders in principal position interviews.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2022_reports/OLOReport2022-11.pdf

Principal position interviews, yes. "Everything that goes on in a school", no.

[Anonymous]

Did he withdraw on his own, perhaps? Maybe he didn’t want to go under these circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did he withdraw on his own, perhaps? Maybe he didn’t want to go under these circumstances.

Apparently:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/01/10/richtie-park-principal-leaves-new-school-post/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sat in court for the trial and feel compelled to respond to Moms statement.

First, the decision for her son to testify is a parent decision. If she didn’t want her son to testify she should have not allowed it. He testified because parents permitted it.

Her son did not provide clear testimony and was clearly confused on the stand. I agree he should never have testified but that’s what the parents permitted.

The video is not clear. We all saw in the courtroom that Mr. Winter stomps his foot but we did not see any contact made. Moco360 has not been fair with the reporting of this at all. You cannot see any contact made.

The judge in making her ruling pointed out that the child does not react as if contact had been made. Mom provides clear proof of that when she shares the 8000 nerve endings which only supports the lack of a reaction and the judges decision.

If her son was in such intense pain why did he not see the nurse? Why didn’t the assistant principal send him to the nurse when she learned of the accusation. The AP admitted he never went to the nurse.

Mom is also slanderous to Mr. Winter expressing thoughts that he has harmed other children when there is no proof whatsoever that has occurred.

Again, I was in court that day heard the testimony, saw the video, and it was clear that this was a very poor case that never should have gone to trial. Judge Burrell clearly felt even in the most favorable light that the prosecution did not present clear evidence, nor witnesses that provided credibility that a crime occurred.

I also was in court and agree with this completely. Winter was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. He deserves to work again. People need to accept that and stop this madness!

Yeah what's important is to make it easy for MCPS to shuffle people who shouldn't be around kids to different schools. Parents should know their place and not question the safety of their kids.

I don't have a particular opinion on this case, but I do have an opinion on whether parents are part of the human resources team at any school. They are not. Just as I don't expect to make personnel decisions at Safeway just because I shop there, I don't expect to have a say in HR processes at mcps just because my kids attend a certain school.

Okay, that’s just BS. If this is the case, then why are parents included on interview panels for administrators? Parents are stakeholders. They are leaving their children for 6-7 hours in the care of adults. It’s reasonable for them to have some say. If I ever have to leave my kids alone at Safeway for hours and hours because it’s required by law (like compulsory schooling is), I guess I might want to be engaged in the HR processes there.

I don't believe there are interview panels for assistant principals.

Oh come on now. The point is that the community DOES have a huge say in everything that goes on in a school. As they should. Safeway does not have a PTA equivalent lol. Again, GTFO

That is nowhere near true.

It is. As a parent I sit in on my school’s leadership meetings every month. There is also PTA meetings. There are also many many surveys and decisions made by vote (calendars for example)

+1 It is part of MCPS's process to include community stakeholders in principal position interviews.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2022_reports/OLOReport2022-11.pdf

Principal position interviews, yes. "Everything that goes on in a school", no.

Like it or not, parents are going to care what happens and what staff are around their kids. Public school staff acting like autocrats is not doing you any favors.

[Anonymous]

According to the petition update Mr. Winter elected not to be placed at RCV or any school in MCPS. Dr. Taylor's letter also stated that Mr. Winter had informed MCPS that he no longer wishes to be assigned to RCV or any in school role in the district. So the decision was made by Mr. Winter.

Frankly, I give credit to Mr. Winter for recognizing he was never going to be given a fair chance at RCV. MCPS should have rolled out their intentions better and not through an email on Friday evening before he was to return. The response to Mr. Winter to serve as AP was unjustified in the way the RCV community unfairly reacted and ignored the facts that he was acquitted and cleared to return. The man deserved better, much better!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sat in court for the trial and feel compelled to respond to Moms statement.

First, the decision for her son to testify is a parent decision. If she didn’t want her son to testify she should have not allowed it. He testified because parents permitted it.

Her son did not provide clear testimony and was clearly confused on the stand. I agree he should never have testified but that’s what the parents permitted.

The video is not clear. We all saw in the courtroom that Mr. Winter stomps his foot but we did not see any contact made. Moco360 has not been fair with the reporting of this at all. You cannot see any contact made.

The judge in making her ruling pointed out that the child does not react as if contact had been made. Mom provides clear proof of that when she shares the 8000 nerve endings which only supports the lack of a reaction and the judges decision.

If her son was in such intense pain why did he not see the nurse? Why didn’t the assistant principal send him to the nurse when she learned of the accusation. The AP admitted he never went to the nurse.

Mom is also slanderous to Mr. Winter expressing thoughts that he has harmed other children when there is no proof whatsoever that has occurred.

Again, I was in court that day heard the testimony, saw the video, and it was clear that this was a very poor case that never should have gone to trial. Judge Burrell clearly felt even in the most favorable light that the prosecution did not present clear evidence, nor witnesses that provided credibility that a crime occurred.

I also was in court and agree with this completely. Winter was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. He deserves to work again. People need to accept that and stop this madness!

Yeah what's important is to make it easy for MCPS to shuffle people who shouldn't be around kids to different schools. Parents should know their place and not question the safety of their kids.

I don't have a particular opinion on this case, but I do have an opinion on whether parents are part of the human resources team at any school. They are not. Just as I don't expect to make personnel decisions at Safeway just because I shop there, I don't expect to have a say in HR processes at mcps just because my kids attend a certain school.

Okay, that’s just BS. If this is the case, then why are parents included on interview panels for administrators? Parents are stakeholders. They are leaving their children for 6-7 hours in the care of adults. It’s reasonable for them to have some say. If I ever have to leave my kids alone at Safeway for hours and hours because it’s required by law (like compulsory schooling is), I guess I might want to be engaged in the HR processes there.

I don't believe there are interview panels for assistant principals.

Oh come on now. The point is that the community DOES have a huge say in everything that goes on in a school. As they should. Safeway does not have a PTA equivalent lol. Again, GTFO

That is nowhere near true.

It is. As a parent I sit in on my school’s leadership meetings every month. There is also PTA meetings. There are also many many surveys and decisions made by vote (calendars for example)

+1 It is part of MCPS's process to include community stakeholders in principal position interviews.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2022_reports/OLOReport2022-11.pdf

Principal position interviews, yes. "Everything that goes on in a school", no.

Like it or not, parents are going to care what happens and what staff are around their kids. Public school staff acting like autocrats is not doing you any favors.

Don't know who you're arguing with. But there are obviously many things that go on in a school which parents have no say over. Yes, there are a few select parents invited to principal interview panels, but they have no real influence. All of the other positions are hired without any parent input. Of course parents care about staff, and they absolutely should. But that wasn't what the PP claimed.