Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a Trump voter. But I have two kids in public school and also work in public school and can easily see what has happened over the last 20 years in the public schools. Even in this area which is not a border town. It is a huge drain on school districts both financially as well as teacher attention. And thanks to Great Schools, schools are judged on how well (or not well) ESL student improve and learn the curriculum. So you'd better believe school districts divert resources disproportionately to those students.

It’s not right. It’s unfair to the students, the teachers, and the taxpayer.

The democrats posting in this thread don’t care about American children. They don’t care about American teachers, or American taxpayers. They are solely focused on disparaging Americans and aiding illegal immigrants and their families with taxpayer dollars.

So you are willing to vote for a criminal to fix the problem? I recognize there is a problem. If a reasonable (non criminal) R candidate was running that wasn’t a con man and believes in the constitution, then, perhaps I would’ve considered voting for him or her. That wasn’t the case!!

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Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

The govt was not providing housing and medical expenses to them.

The government wasn’t using taxpayer dollars to provide housing, food, healthcare, and for illegal immigrants.

And the government isn't using taxpayer dollars to provide food and shelter for undocumented immigrants now. Stop being ridiculous.

Hmmm...have you been in a public school lately in an area with large numbers of immigrants who don't speak English? SERVICES paid for with tax dollars: special education, medical care, glasses, school supplies, breakfasts, lunches, weekend snacks in bookbags, ESL support, etc. Not to mention instruction that's impacted by the presence of 50+% of students not able to speak English. The children are precious, but don't pretend there's no cost to taxpayers. Local govts (tax dollars) are also helping with housing costs.

We are dealing with these issues in our school system (my kids go to public school) but never in a million years would I ever vote for Trump or someone like him.

I am sure all the Trumpers crying about these problems in the schools send their kids to private schools.

PP here. I didn't vote for Trump either, but it's disingenuous (or extreme naivete) for posters to pretend it's not costly to taxpayers. And I can promise you most Trumpers in those affected areas can't afford private schools.

oh they can’t afford private school, but they can afford attending college football games, Nascar races, $60 bibles, $100 sneakers, $500 Trump watches. Got it.

Taxpayers pay for public schools. Then democrats ruin them by flooding them with the kids of illegals so they can have cheap nannies and housekeepers and landscapers, and taxpayers have to pay for private school too?

And pay for the bountiful benefits democrat slaves receive from the taxpayer.

You must not have any kids, because sneakers that cost $100 aren’t even fancy.

Taxpayers don’t exist to fund your cheap household help and future voters.

I have kids. 2 kids that go to public schools. Our schools are over crowded but would never in a million years vote for Trump. Ever. and yeah, because of stupid Trump voters like you, the labor market will be decimated. So thanks!

I am sorry, my mistake Trump sneakers cost $225.

so all these people crying about gas prices and grocery costs can’t afford Trump sneakers and other things like college football games, got it.

Americans should be happy with inflation, not buy footwear, and not attend sporting events and instead fund the benefits given by state and federal government for illegal aliens?

Democrats sure love illegal aliens and despise taxpaying Americans. Gee, wonder why Trump won?

Keep repeating your screed, near and far. Make sure you let your fellow Americans know who you are siding with: non-citizens. You believe Americans should not purchase consumer goods or attend sporting events. That’s sane.

You do realize many many of these people pay taxes and do not claim them back?

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I don't know why this is even a 17 page debate. These people need to go. Period. Send them back.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why this is even a 17 page debate. These people need to go. Period. Send them back.

Yes. And change the laws so that anyone who was an anchor baby granted citizenship here by birth to parents who did not have a green card or citizenship is permanently ineligible from sponsoring family members as an adult. We must prevent chain migration for illegal immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why this is even a 17 page debate. These people need to go. Period. Send them back.

Yes. And we should place a special tax on anyone who voted for Biden and open borders to pay for it. It is not just Bidens mess, his voters own this insanity. Of course we’ll have to find the missing 8 million voters from 2020

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Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

The govt was not providing housing and medical expenses to them.

The government wasn’t using taxpayer dollars to provide housing, food, healthcare, and for illegal immigrants.

And the government isn't using taxpayer dollars to provide food and shelter for undocumented immigrants now. Stop being ridiculous.

Hmmm...have you been in a public school lately in an area with large numbers of immigrants who don't speak English? SERVICES paid for with tax dollars: special education, medical care, glasses, school supplies, breakfasts, lunches, weekend snacks in bookbags, ESL support, etc. Not to mention instruction that's impacted by the presence of 50+% of students not able to speak English. The children are precious, but don't pretend there's no cost to taxpayers. Local govts (tax dollars) are also helping with housing costs.

We are dealing with these issues in our school system (my kids go to public school) but never in a million years would I ever vote for Trump or someone like him.

I am sure all the Trumpers crying about these problems in the schools send their kids to private schools.

PP here. I didn't vote for Trump either, but it's disingenuous (or extreme naivete) for posters to pretend it's not costly to taxpayers. And I can promise you most Trumpers in those affected areas can't afford private schools.

oh they can’t afford private school, but they can afford attending college football games, Nascar races, $60 bibles, $100 sneakers, $500 Trump watches. Got it.

Taxpayers pay for public schools. Then democrats ruin them by flooding them with the kids of illegals so they can have cheap nannies and housekeepers and landscapers, and taxpayers have to pay for private school too?

And pay for the bountiful benefits democrat slaves receive from the taxpayer.

You must not have any kids, because sneakers that cost $100 aren’t even fancy.

Taxpayers don’t exist to fund your cheap household help and future voters.

I have kids. 2 kids that go to public schools. Our schools are over crowded but would never in a million years vote for Trump. Ever. and yeah, because of stupid Trump voters like you, the labor market will be decimated. So thanks!

I am sorry, my mistake Trump sneakers cost $225.

so all these people crying about gas prices and grocery costs can’t afford Trump sneakers and other things like college football games, got it.

Americans should be happy with inflation, not buy footwear, and not attend sporting events and instead fund the benefits given by state and federal government for illegal aliens?

Democrats sure love illegal aliens and despise taxpaying Americans. Gee, wonder why Trump won?

Keep repeating your screed, near and far. Make sure you let your fellow Americans know who you are siding with: non-citizens. You believe Americans should not purchase consumer goods or attend sporting events. That’s sane.

so they complain about the cost of groceries but spend their money on unnecessary stuff? You are totally missing the point. Don’t complain about paying for your basic needs while blowing money on sneakers, bitcoins and other crap.

My neighbor lives in a huge house by himself with an in ground pool. Sports car and huge truck. But complains about the cost of groceries. Maybe get rid of one of your cars or close in your pool if your basic needs are too expensive.

So tone deaf.

This. Most conservative friends of mine have a pool, an RV, a boat and some have all three. But somehow they can't afford eggs and gas.

In the DC metro, dh and I can't afford sporting events, RVs, a pool, or a giant truck but can somehow afford to pay for eggs and fuel.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why this is even a 17 page debate. These people need to go. Period. Send them back.

+1

That’s all that needs to be said and done.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why this is even a 17 page debate. These people need to go. Period. Send them back.

Yes. And we should place a special tax on anyone who voted for Biden and open borders to pay for it. It is not just Bidens mess, his voters own this insanity. Of course we’ll have to find the missing 8 million voters from 2020

How about a tax for anyone who voted for Trump in 2016 for the way he handled the pandemic, totally botched it and wrecked the economy. All those jobs lost.

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Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

The govt was not providing housing and medical expenses to them.

The government wasn’t using taxpayer dollars to provide housing, food, healthcare, and for illegal immigrants.

And the government isn't using taxpayer dollars to provide food and shelter for undocumented immigrants now. Stop being ridiculous.

Hmmm...have you been in a public school lately in an area with large numbers of immigrants who don't speak English? SERVICES paid for with tax dollars: special education, medical care, glasses, school supplies, breakfasts, lunches, weekend snacks in bookbags, ESL support, etc. Not to mention instruction that's impacted by the presence of 50+% of students not able to speak English. The children are precious, but don't pretend there's no cost to taxpayers. Local govts (tax dollars) are also helping with housing costs.

We are dealing with these issues in our school system (my kids go to public school) but never in a million years would I ever vote for Trump or someone like him.

I am sure all the Trumpers crying about these problems in the schools send their kids to private schools.

PP here. I didn't vote for Trump either, but it's disingenuous (or extreme naivete) for posters to pretend it's not costly to taxpayers. And I can promise you most Trumpers in those affected areas can't afford private schools.

oh they can’t afford private school, but they can afford attending college football games, Nascar races, $60 bibles, $100 sneakers, $500 Trump watches. Got it.

Taxpayers pay for public schools. Then democrats ruin them by flooding them with the kids of illegals so they can have cheap nannies and housekeepers and landscapers, and taxpayers have to pay for private school too?

And pay for the bountiful benefits democrat slaves receive from the taxpayer.

You must not have any kids, because sneakers that cost $100 aren’t even fancy.

Taxpayers don’t exist to fund your cheap household help and future voters.

I have kids. 2 kids that go to public schools. Our schools are over crowded but would never in a million years vote for Trump. Ever. and yeah, because of stupid Trump voters like you, the labor market will be decimated. So thanks!

I am sorry, my mistake Trump sneakers cost $225.

so all these people crying about gas prices and grocery costs can’t afford Trump sneakers and other things like college football games, got it.

Americans should be happy with inflation, not buy footwear, and not attend sporting events and instead fund the benefits given by state and federal government for illegal aliens?

Democrats sure love illegal aliens and despise taxpaying Americans. Gee, wonder why Trump won?

Keep repeating your screed, near and far. Make sure you let your fellow Americans know who you are siding with: non-citizens. You believe Americans should not purchase consumer goods or attend sporting events. That’s sane.

so they complain about the cost of groceries but spend their money on unnecessary stuff? You are totally missing the point. Don’t complain about paying for your basic needs while blowing money on sneakers, bitcoins and other crap.

My neighbor lives in a huge house by himself with an in ground pool. Sports car and huge truck. But complains about the cost of groceries. Maybe get rid of one of your cars or close in your pool if your basic needs are too expensive.

So tone deaf.

This. Most conservative friends of mine have a pool, an RV, a boat and some have all three. But somehow they can't afford eggs and gas.

In the DC metro, dh and I can't afford sporting events, RVs, a pool, or a giant truck but can somehow afford to pay for eggs and fuel.

Sad the typical Trump voter can’t see this.

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Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

The govt was not providing housing and medical expenses to them.

The government wasn’t using taxpayer dollars to provide housing, food, healthcare, and for illegal immigrants.

And the government isn't using taxpayer dollars to provide food and shelter for undocumented immigrants now. Stop being ridiculous.

Hmmm...have you been in a public school lately in an area with large numbers of immigrants who don't speak English? SERVICES paid for with tax dollars: special education, medical care, glasses, school supplies, breakfasts, lunches, weekend snacks in bookbags, ESL support, etc. Not to mention instruction that's impacted by the presence of 50+% of students not able to speak English. The children are precious, but don't pretend there's no cost to taxpayers. Local govts (tax dollars) are also helping with housing costs.

We are dealing with these issues in our school system (my kids go to public school) but never in a million years would I ever vote for Trump or someone like him.

I am sure all the Trumpers crying about these problems in the schools send their kids to private schools.

PP here. I didn't vote for Trump either, but it's disingenuous (or extreme naivete) for posters to pretend it's not costly to taxpayers. And I can promise you most Trumpers in those affected areas can't afford private schools.

oh they can’t afford private school, but they can afford attending college football games, Nascar races, $60 bibles, $100 sneakers, $500 Trump watches. Got it.

Taxpayers pay for public schools. Then democrats ruin them by flooding them with the kids of illegals so they can have cheap nannies and housekeepers and landscapers, and taxpayers have to pay for private school too?

And pay for the bountiful benefits democrat slaves receive from the taxpayer.

You must not have any kids, because sneakers that cost $100 aren’t even fancy.

Taxpayers don’t exist to fund your cheap household help and future voters.

I have kids. 2 kids that go to public schools. Our schools are over crowded but would never in a million years vote for Trump. Ever. and yeah, because of stupid Trump voters like you, the labor market will be decimated. So thanks!

I am sorry, my mistake Trump sneakers cost $225.

so all these people crying about gas prices and grocery costs can’t afford Trump sneakers and other things like college football games, got it.

Americans should be happy with inflation, not buy footwear, and not attend sporting events and instead fund the benefits given by state and federal government for illegal aliens?

Democrats sure love illegal aliens and despise taxpaying Americans. Gee, wonder why Trump won?

Keep repeating your screed, near and far. Make sure you let your fellow Americans know who you are siding with: non-citizens. You believe Americans should not purchase consumer goods or attend sporting events. That’s sane.

so they complain about the cost of groceries but spend their money on unnecessary stuff? You are totally missing the point. Don’t complain about paying for your basic needs while blowing money on sneakers, bitcoins and other crap.

My neighbor lives in a huge house by himself with an in ground pool. Sports car and huge truck. But complains about the cost of groceries. Maybe get rid of one of your cars or close in your pool if your basic needs are too expensive.

So tone deaf.

This. Most conservative friends of mine have a pool, an RV, a boat and some have all three. But somehow they can't afford eggs and gas.

In the DC metro, dh and I can't afford sporting events, RVs, a pool, or a giant truck but can somehow afford to pay for eggs and fuel.

Sad the typical Trump voter can’t see this.

Sad you think Americans have to eschew a good quality of life to fund benefits for people who should not even be in the United States.

The United States has the largest known deposits of oil shale in the world, according to the Bureau of Land Management and holds an estimated 2.175 trillion barrels (345.8 km3) of potentially recoverable oil.

But for some reason-democrats- we aren’t allowed to access our oil deposits.

American taxpayers are paying for non-citizens to live in our country. And being told to own nothing and only buy eggs and expensive gas. If that’s how democrats want to relate to the American electorate, good luck.

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As a retired ICE agent, it does need to be done but the USG doesn’t have anywhere close to the resources to do it. It’s not just a matter of rounding up illegals and dropping them on the other side of the border. It’s a long, cumbersome process that involves paperwork, appearances in front of judges, long term incarceration, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

The govt was not providing housing and medical expenses to them.

The government wasn’t using taxpayer dollars to provide housing, food, healthcare, and for illegal immigrants.

And the government isn't using taxpayer dollars to provide food and shelter for undocumented immigrants now. Stop being ridiculous.

Hmmm...have you been in a public school lately in an area with large numbers of immigrants who don't speak English? SERVICES paid for with tax dollars: special education, medical care, glasses, school supplies, breakfasts, lunches, weekend snacks in bookbags, ESL support, etc. Not to mention instruction that's impacted by the presence of 50+% of students not able to speak English. The children are precious, but don't pretend there's no cost to taxpayers. Local govts (tax dollars) are also helping with housing costs.

We are dealing with these issues in our school system (my kids go to public school) but never in a million years would I ever vote for Trump or someone like him.

I am sure all the Trumpers crying about these problems in the schools send their kids to private schools.

PP here. I didn't vote for Trump either, but it's disingenuous (or extreme naivete) for posters to pretend it's not costly to taxpayers. And I can promise you most Trumpers in those affected areas can't afford private schools.

oh they can’t afford private school, but they can afford attending college football games, Nascar races, $60 bibles, $100 sneakers, $500 Trump watches. Got it.

Taxpayers pay for public schools. Then democrats ruin them by flooding them with the kids of illegals so they can have cheap nannies and housekeepers and landscapers, and taxpayers have to pay for private school too?

And pay for the bountiful benefits democrat slaves receive from the taxpayer.

You must not have any kids, because sneakers that cost $100 aren’t even fancy.

Taxpayers don’t exist to fund your cheap household help and future voters.

I have kids. 2 kids that go to public schools. Our schools are over crowded but would never in a million years vote for Trump. Ever. and yeah, because of stupid Trump voters like you, the labor market will be decimated. So thanks!

I am sorry, my mistake Trump sneakers cost $225.

so all these people crying about gas prices and grocery costs can’t afford Trump sneakers and other things like college football games, got it.

Americans should be happy with inflation, not buy footwear, and not attend sporting events and instead fund the benefits given by state and federal government for illegal aliens?

Democrats sure love illegal aliens and despise taxpaying Americans. Gee, wonder why Trump won?

Keep repeating your screed, near and far. Make sure you let your fellow Americans know who you are siding with: non-citizens. You believe Americans should not purchase consumer goods or attend sporting events. That’s sane.

so they complain about the cost of groceries but spend their money on unnecessary stuff? You are totally missing the point. Don’t complain about paying for your basic needs while blowing money on sneakers, bitcoins and other crap.

My neighbor lives in a huge house by himself with an in ground pool. Sports car and huge truck. But complains about the cost of groceries. Maybe get rid of one of your cars or close in your pool if your basic needs are too expensive.

So tone deaf.

This. Most conservative friends of mine have a pool, an RV, a boat and some have all three. But somehow they can't afford eggs and gas.

In the DC metro, dh and I can't afford sporting events, RVs, a pool, or a giant truck but can somehow afford to pay for eggs and fuel.

Sad the typical Trump voter can’t see this.

Sad you think Americans have to eschew a good quality of life to fund benefits for people who should not even be in the United States.

The United States has the largest known deposits of oil shale in the world, according to the Bureau of Land Management and holds an estimated 2.175 trillion barrels (345.8 km3) of potentially recoverable oil.

But for some reason-democrats- we aren’t allowed to access our oil deposits.

American taxpayers are paying for non-citizens to live in our country. And being told to own nothing and only buy eggs and expensive gas. If that’s how democrats want to relate to the American electorate, good luck.

Seriously. How dare an American want to be able to afford their weekly groceries AND go to a sporting event?! Our elite democrat overlords clearly want to keep their boots on the necks of the American middle class. It’s not enough to provide for your own family — you must also pay for the illegal aliens, and if you dare complain, you’re a racist xenophobic bigot. What a compelling message!

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Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

The govt was not providing housing and medical expenses to them.

The government wasn’t using taxpayer dollars to provide housing, food, healthcare, and for illegal immigrants.

And the government isn't using taxpayer dollars to provide food and shelter for undocumented immigrants now. Stop being ridiculous.

Hmmm...have you been in a public school lately in an area with large numbers of immigrants who don't speak English? SERVICES paid for with tax dollars: special education, medical care, glasses, school supplies, breakfasts, lunches, weekend snacks in bookbags, ESL support, etc. Not to mention instruction that's impacted by the presence of 50+% of students not able to speak English. The children are precious, but don't pretend there's no cost to taxpayers. Local govts (tax dollars) are also helping with housing costs.

We are dealing with these issues in our school system (my kids go to public school) but never in a million years would I ever vote for Trump or someone like him.

I am sure all the Trumpers crying about these problems in the schools send their kids to private schools.

PP here. I didn't vote for Trump either, but it's disingenuous (or extreme naivete) for posters to pretend it's not costly to taxpayers. And I can promise you most Trumpers in those affected areas can't afford private schools.

oh they can’t afford private school, but they can afford attending college football games, Nascar races, $60 bibles, $100 sneakers, $500 Trump watches. Got it.

Taxpayers pay for public schools. Then democrats ruin them by flooding them with the kids of illegals so they can have cheap nannies and housekeepers and landscapers, and taxpayers have to pay for private school too?

And pay for the bountiful benefits democrat slaves receive from the taxpayer.

You must not have any kids, because sneakers that cost $100 aren’t even fancy.

Taxpayers don’t exist to fund your cheap household help and future voters.

I have kids. 2 kids that go to public schools. Our schools are over crowded but would never in a million years vote for Trump. Ever. and yeah, because of stupid Trump voters like you, the labor market will be decimated. So thanks!

I am sorry, my mistake Trump sneakers cost $225.

so all these people crying about gas prices and grocery costs can’t afford Trump sneakers and other things like college football games, got it.

Americans should be happy with inflation, not buy footwear, and not attend sporting events and instead fund the benefits given by state and federal government for illegal aliens?

Democrats sure love illegal aliens and despise taxpaying Americans. Gee, wonder why Trump won?

Keep repeating your screed, near and far. Make sure you let your fellow Americans know who you are siding with: non-citizens. You believe Americans should not purchase consumer goods or attend sporting events. That’s sane.

so they complain about the cost of groceries but spend their money on unnecessary stuff? You are totally missing the point. Don’t complain about paying for your basic needs while blowing money on sneakers, bitcoins and other crap.

My neighbor lives in a huge house by himself with an in ground pool. Sports car and huge truck. But complains about the cost of groceries. Maybe get rid of one of your cars or close in your pool if your basic needs are too expensive.

So tone deaf.

This. Most conservative friends of mine have a pool, an RV, a boat and some have all three. But somehow they can't afford eggs and gas.

In the DC metro, dh and I can't afford sporting events, RVs, a pool, or a giant truck but can somehow afford to pay for eggs and fuel.

Sad the typical Trump voter can’t see this.

Sad you think Americans have to eschew a good quality of life to fund benefits for people who should not even be in the United States.

The United States has the largest known deposits of oil shale in the world, according to the Bureau of Land Management and holds an estimated 2.175 trillion barrels (345.8 km3) of potentially recoverable oil.

But for some reason-democrats- we aren’t allowed to access our oil deposits.

American taxpayers are paying for non-citizens to live in our country. And being told to own nothing and only buy eggs and expensive gas. If that’s how democrats want to relate to the American electorate, good luck.

Seriously. How dare an American want to be able to afford their weekly groceries AND go to a sporting event?! Our elite democrat overlords clearly want to keep their boots on the necks of the American middle class. It’s not enough to provide for your own family — you must also pay for the illegal aliens, and if you dare complain, you’re a racist xenophobic bigot. What a compelling message!

+1

Democrats want Americans to:

- own nothing
- go nowhere
- take mass transit, owning a truck or car is luxury
- watch wealthy celebrities endorse Kamala
- construct footwear from bird droppings and leaves
- NFL jerseys? AYFKM? Get that decadence out of here immediately!!
- your kids will attend overwhelmed schools with the majority of resources given to the children of non-citizens who cannot speak english
- pay their taxes promptly to fund illegal immigrant’s benefits
- stfu

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Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

The govt was not providing housing and medical expenses to them.

The government wasn’t using taxpayer dollars to provide housing, food, healthcare, and for illegal immigrants.

And the government isn't using taxpayer dollars to provide food and shelter for undocumented immigrants now. Stop being ridiculous.

Hmmm...have you been in a public school lately in an area with large numbers of immigrants who don't speak English? SERVICES paid for with tax dollars: special education, medical care, glasses, school supplies, breakfasts, lunches, weekend snacks in bookbags, ESL support, etc. Not to mention instruction that's impacted by the presence of 50+% of students not able to speak English. The children are precious, but don't pretend there's no cost to taxpayers. Local govts (tax dollars) are also helping with housing costs.

We are dealing with these issues in our school system (my kids go to public school) but never in a million years would I ever vote for Trump or someone like him.

I am sure all the Trumpers crying about these problems in the schools send their kids to private schools.

PP here. I didn't vote for Trump either, but it's disingenuous (or extreme naivete) for posters to pretend it's not costly to taxpayers. And I can promise you most Trumpers in those affected areas can't afford private schools.

oh they can’t afford private school, but they can afford attending college football games, Nascar races, $60 bibles, $100 sneakers, $500 Trump watches. Got it.

Taxpayers pay for public schools. Then democrats ruin them by flooding them with the kids of illegals so they can have cheap nannies and housekeepers and landscapers, and taxpayers have to pay for private school too?

And pay for the bountiful benefits democrat slaves receive from the taxpayer.

You must not have any kids, because sneakers that cost $100 aren’t even fancy.

Taxpayers don’t exist to fund your cheap household help and future voters.

I have kids. 2 kids that go to public schools. Our schools are over crowded but would never in a million years vote for Trump. Ever. and yeah, because of stupid Trump voters like you, the labor market will be decimated. So thanks!

I am sorry, my mistake Trump sneakers cost $225.

so all these people crying about gas prices and grocery costs can’t afford Trump sneakers and other things like college football games, got it.

Americans should be happy with inflation, not buy footwear, and not attend sporting events and instead fund the benefits given by state and federal government for illegal aliens?

Democrats sure love illegal aliens and despise taxpaying Americans. Gee, wonder why Trump won?

Keep repeating your screed, near and far. Make sure you let your fellow Americans know who you are siding with: non-citizens. You believe Americans should not purchase consumer goods or attend sporting events. That’s sane.

so they complain about the cost of groceries but spend their money on unnecessary stuff? You are totally missing the point. Don’t complain about paying for your basic needs while blowing money on sneakers, bitcoins and other crap.

My neighbor lives in a huge house by himself with an in ground pool. Sports car and huge truck. But complains about the cost of groceries. Maybe get rid of one of your cars or close in your pool if your basic needs are too expensive.

So tone deaf.

This. Most conservative friends of mine have a pool, an RV, a boat and some have all three. But somehow they can't afford eggs and gas.

In the DC metro, dh and I can't afford sporting events, RVs, a pool, or a giant truck but can somehow afford to pay for eggs and fuel.

Sad the typical Trump voter can’t see this.

Sad you think Americans have to eschew a good quality of life to fund benefits for people who should not even be in the United States.

The United States has the largest known deposits of oil shale in the world, according to the Bureau of Land Management and holds an estimated 2.175 trillion barrels (345.8 km3) of potentially recoverable oil.

But for some reason-democrats- we aren’t allowed to access our oil deposits.

American taxpayers are paying for non-citizens to live in our country. And being told to own nothing and only buy eggs and expensive gas. If that’s how democrats want to relate to the American electorate, good luck.

You are missing the entire point. But admittedly this should be in a different thread.

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This thread confirms my beliefs that Trump voters are angry and miserable people.