Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

It is interesting isn’t it? They tend to be way more sanctimonious, dogmatic and tiresome than the religious posters in this forum.

To be fair, Christian Nationalists who are using religion to justify an extreme and distinctly non-Christian agenda are far worse. We just do see them much on DCUM

You’re just not getting it. Being respectful of these beliefs has not only not worked, it has been a disaster for human rights. It has not worked. I am tired of being respectful only to see the religious trample over the rights of others. As some on the other side famously say, “F your feelings”.

If you support these myths being worthy of respect in our society you are just as much a part of the problem as the fundamentalists you pretend to dis-associate with. You empower them. Give up the mythology and join the modern world. The world will be a much better place when you all do.

Fear not - very few signs of atheists being overly respectful towards people with different views to their own in this forum.

I actually believe that your type of black and white overly simplistic and angry style of communication is much more a part of the problem in modern society than you realize: dogmatic extremism and not listening to others in thoughtful ways is what has got us into this ideological hell hole/ shouting match where both liberals and conservatives find themselves.

I feel bad for the PP, it is clearly the same individual posting style in pages and pages of comments, with little break. It must be very hard to have nothing else to do with her life but fight with internet strangers for days on end.

I would say she needs Jesus, but clearly that isn’t a solution. Maybe she can find help through a therapist or secular humanist group or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dear religious posters:

We atheists don’t care what you think about why we post, or what motivates us, or whether we have “good nature” or not.

We are about the rights of Americans that your adherence to Bronze Age mythology is contributing greatly to.

Just so you know.



Dear Embarrassed Atheist/Agnostic

First learn that you can be both atheist and agnostic, as most atheists are.

Second, if you are going to make a claim, including one that we are “poorly read on basic philosophy and morality” Please provide evidence of that claim. Also please illustrate how someone can be “poorly read” on morality.

Third, understand that while we have no evidence you are fake, we certainly would not be surprised to find that out.

Yup. The PP doesn’t sound believable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

It is interesting isn’t it? They tend to be way more sanctimonious, dogmatic and tiresome than the religious posters in this forum.

To be fair, Christian Nationalists who are using religion to justify an extreme and distinctly non-Christian agenda are far worse. We just do see them much on DCUM

You’re just not getting it. Being respectful of these beliefs has not only not worked, it has been a disaster for human rights. It has not worked. I am tired of being respectful only to see the religious trample over the rights of others. As some on the other side famously say, “F your feelings”.

If you support these myths being worthy of respect in our society you are just as much a part of the problem as the fundamentalists you pretend to dis-associate with. You empower them. Give up the mythology and join the modern world. The world will be a much better place when you all do.

Human rights, lol.

Where do think this idea came from?

AI Answer:
"The first mention of human rights was in the Cyrus Cylinder, a baked-clay tablet inscribed in the Akkadian language. The cylinder contains the decrees of Cyrus the Great, the first king of ancient Persia, who freed all slaves and declared that people should be able to choose their own religion after conquering Babylon in 539 B.C."

Then this, which does not mention the bible:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_human_rights#:

Lastly: "Human Rights, lol"? WTF with the "lol"? What's next from you, "Holocaust, lol"? You're disgraceful.

The reality is the only reason you care about human rights, or that this idea even exists today, is because the rich white powerful Christian men who ruled the world in the 19th and 20th centuries propagated this belief in an attempt to get get people to stop genociding one another.

Human rights is a uniquely Christian concept. You make moronic statements about so-called human rights without realizing that your entire worldview has been shaped by a moral and ethical system that is based on foundationally Christian assumptions.

Let me guess, you also support “women’s rights” and “women’s equality” and think it has nothing to do Christianity.

You also probably think that “human rights” are universal.

What a joke.

Great. You are all about human rights.

Then please get TF out of my uterus. My kid’s schools. My government.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

It is interesting isn’t it? They tend to be way more sanctimonious, dogmatic and tiresome than the religious posters in this forum.

To be fair, Christian Nationalists who are using religion to justify an extreme and distinctly non-Christian agenda are far worse. We just do see them much on DCUM

You’re just not getting it. Being respectful of these beliefs has not only not worked, it has been a disaster for human rights. It has not worked. I am tired of being respectful only to see the religious trample over the rights of others. As some on the other side famously say, “F your feelings”.

If you support these myths being worthy of respect in our society you are just as much a part of the problem as the fundamentalists you pretend to dis-associate with. You empower them. Give up the mythology and join the modern world. The world will be a much better place when you all do.

Fear not - very few signs of atheists being overly respectful towards people with different views to their own in this forum.

I actually believe that your type of black and white overly simplistic and angry style of communication is much more a part of the problem in modern society than you realize: dogmatic extremism and not listening to others in thoughtful ways is what has got us into this ideological hell hole/ shouting match where both liberals and conservatives find themselves.

I feel bad for the PP, it is clearly the same individual posting style in pages and pages of comments, with little break. It must be very hard to have nothing else to do with her life but fight with internet strangers for days on end.

I would say she needs Jesus, but clearly that isn’t a solution. Maybe she can find help through a therapist or secular humanist group or something.

Plus one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

I think atheists know more facts about religion because they study it before leaving it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

It is interesting isn’t it? They tend to be way more sanctimonious, dogmatic and tiresome than the religious posters in this forum.

To be fair, Christian Nationalists who are using religion to justify an extreme and distinctly non-Christian agenda are far worse. We just do see them much on DCUM

You’re just not getting it. Being respectful of these beliefs has not only not worked, it has been a disaster for human rights. It has not worked. I am tired of being respectful only to see the religious trample over the rights of others. As some on the other side famously say, “F your feelings”.

If you support these myths being worthy of respect in our society you are just as much a part of the problem as the fundamentalists you pretend to dis-associate with. You empower them. Give up the mythology and join the modern world. The world will be a much better place when you all do.

Fear not - very few signs of atheists being overly respectful towards people with different views to their own in this forum.

I actually believe that your type of black and white overly simplistic and angry style of communication is much more a part of the problem in modern society than you realize: dogmatic extremism and not listening to others in thoughtful ways is what has got us into this ideological hell hole/ shouting match where both liberals and conservatives find themselves.

I feel bad for the PP, it is clearly the same individual posting style in pages and pages of comments, with little break. It must be very hard to have nothing else to do with her life but fight with internet strangers for days on end.

I would say she needs Jesus, but clearly that isn’t a solution. Maybe she can find help through a therapist or secular humanist group or something.

I feel bad for YOU. You must be reading so closely that you think you can tell pp's posting style and know that pp has made "pages and pages of comments, with little break." Hope you seek help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

I think atheists know more facts about religion because they study it before leaving it.

This was certainly the case with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to talk with similarly-minded people and I want religious people to think more about their beliefs.

I wish I had known about this forum when I was first questioning religion. It would have been very helpful to know that there are seemingly intelligent, good-humored and logical people who have rejected religion.

This is one of the few places that I feel free to discuss atheism. Being religious is the default position in the US, even though recent studies indicate that fewer people these days are religious.

Ds had a friend in HS who was afraid to think about his beliefs very much. His parents discouraged it. Thinking about it might lead to questions, and questions about his faith were seen as a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

I think atheists know more facts about religion because they study it before leaving it.

This was certainly the case with me.

Me too. I also think there are people who are "born atheists" -- that is, even though they are exposed to religion, they never believe. I

I know someone like this. Both her grandfathers were preachers and she didn't want to hurt their feelings, so she never told them that she didn't believe in what they had devoted their lives to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

Not the ones in this forum …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

It is interesting isn’t it? They tend to be way more sanctimonious, dogmatic and tiresome than the religious posters in this forum.

To be fair, Christian Nationalists who are using religion to justify an extreme and distinctly non-Christian agenda are far worse. We just do see them much on DCUM

You’re just not getting it. Being respectful of these beliefs has not only not worked, it has been a disaster for human rights. It has not worked. I am tired of being respectful only to see the religious trample over the rights of others. As some on the other side famously say, “F your feelings”.

If you support these myths being worthy of respect in our society you are just as much a part of the problem as the fundamentalists you pretend to dis-associate with. You empower them. Give up the mythology and join the modern world. The world will be a much better place when you all do.

Fear not - very few signs of atheists being overly respectful towards people with different views to their own in this forum.

I actually believe that your type of black and white overly simplistic and angry style of communication is much more a part of the problem in modern society than you realize: dogmatic extremism and not listening to others in thoughtful ways is what has got us into this ideological hell hole/ shouting match where both liberals and conservatives find themselves.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

Not the ones in this forum …

Oh really? Please link to the atheist posts in this thread which are factually incorrect.

Hint: This is where you say "I'm not gonna do your research for you!" and run tail, because it just is not so. Yet another claim you can't back up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

Not the ones in this forum …

Oh really? Please link to the atheist posts in this thread which are factually incorrect.

Hint: This is where you say "I'm not gonna do your research for you!" and run tail, because it just is not so. Yet another claim you can't back up.

Just like “objective evidence”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist but can acknowledge that Christianity is the foundation for western civilization.

The intersection of religion, history, and culture responsible for every modern society.

Religion is an interesting topic, hence why I post here.

I post here when the Politics and Health and Eldercare categories get too depressing.