UGA EA Stats and decisions dates

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Anonymous wrote:30 years ago who would have thought that UGA would be as (if not more) competitive as Emory, if not more so. The Zell Scholarship was such a brilliant idea!

I don’t quite understand the comment…in state UGA acceptance is like 50%.

It is a much tougher admit coming from the stronger public high schools and top private schools in state, because so many kids are applying due to HOPE.

Ok, I guess. Is it just free tuition? Is $10k for an instate kid from a top private particularly meaningful?

I mean, if I am paying $40k to send them to an Atlanta private, then for some reason avoiding $10k for instate tuition is meaningful?

I'm the PP you're responding to, and that is definitely a fair point! I think it's that they're avoiding $80k+ for a private college or $65k+ for out of state public.

Except it’s not like someone that sends their kid to Sidwell and lives in MD cares much about paying $85k for Harvard, so they aren’t even probably applying to UMD even though that’s only $27k in state.

I guess I’m trying to understand the psychology at play…perhaps the acceptable options within say 500 miles just aren’t there?

I don't know what to tell you - I don't think it's hard to grasp that a student/parents, regardless of how wealthy they are, would think twice about spending $300,000-$400,000 when they could spend $40,000, or whatever the total would be at UGA. I think it's even more understandable when a family two or more kids headed to college.

Because most families that make tons of money and don’t think twice about spending $55k per year for k-12, would then turn around and now worry about spending $120k (the $10k is just tuition plus $20k per year for the rest) vs $300k.

Many of those families live in nice areas with great public schools and they choose to pay for private.

Why now?

1. Maybe the student didn't get into a private they felt was worth the cost difference.
2. Maybe the family was receiving a scholarship to attend the private and didn't qualify for as much aid at a private college. We can't assume all families at private high schools are full pay.
3. Maybe the family prioritized private K-12 but not private college.
4. Maybe the student wanted a big public versus a private experience for college.
5. Maybe the family has five kids headed to college and decide they can't (or don't want) to swing private tuition for that many kids.
6. In the "nicest" areas of Atlanta (not metro), there are two public high schools that would be options for families. They are not the top high schools in Atlanta or the state. I can't speak to Maryland.

So somebody can pay $40k per year for 5 kids, but now they decide they can’t pay more for college?

This whole debate was because someone implied that a $10k per year Zell scholarship suddenly had all the private school kids wanting UGA.

That doesn’t seem like a reasonable argument for why full pay private school kids are now interested in UGA.

If people wanted to save money and chose UGA they would pick it Zell
Scholarship or not.

You're also forgetting that the truly top kids are not only getting Zell, they're getting a completely full ride. And yes, I think spending $200,000 for five kids to attend private K-12 is very different than spending 1.5 million for college. Maybe I would feel differently if I were wealthy.

Regardless of money, I think top kids are applying to UGA because they feel it's a good school and want it as an option. The lower tuition is just a nice bonus. You do not have to agree, and that is completely okay!

$200,000 per year X 13 = $2.6MM

Yes, I corrected myself above.

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Also people like to be awarded scholarships. Feels good. Don’t discount that.

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Anonymous wrote:30 years ago who would have thought that UGA would be as (if not more) competitive as Emory, if not more so. The Zell Scholarship was such a brilliant idea!

I don’t quite understand the comment…in state UGA acceptance is like 50%.

It is a much tougher admit coming from the stronger public high schools and top private schools in state, because so many kids are applying due to HOPE.

Ok, I guess. Is it just free tuition? Is $10k for an instate kid from a top private particularly meaningful?

I mean, if I am paying $40k to send them to an Atlanta private, then for some reason avoiding $10k for instate tuition is meaningful?

I'm the PP you're responding to, and that is definitely a fair point! I think it's that they're avoiding $80k+ for a private college or $65k+ for out of state public.

Except it’s not like someone that sends their kid to Sidwell and lives in MD cares much about paying $85k for Harvard, so they aren’t even probably applying to UMD even though that’s only $27k in state.

I guess I’m trying to understand the psychology at play…perhaps the acceptable options within say 500 miles just aren’t there?

I don't know what to tell you - I don't think it's hard to grasp that a student/parents, regardless of how wealthy they are, would think twice about spending $300,000-$400,000 when they could spend $40,000, or whatever the total would be at UGA. I think it's even more understandable when a family two or more kids headed to college.

Because most families that make tons of money and don’t think twice about spending $55k per year for k-12, would then turn around and now worry about spending $120k (the $10k is just tuition plus $20k per year for the rest) vs $300k.

Many of those families live in nice areas with great public schools and they choose to pay for private.

Why now?

1. Maybe the student didn't get into a private they felt was worth the cost difference.
2. Maybe the family was receiving a scholarship to attend the private and didn't qualify for as much aid at a private college. We can't assume all families at private high schools are full pay.
3. Maybe the family prioritized private K-12 but not private college.
4. Maybe the student wanted a big public versus a private experience for college.
5. Maybe the family has five kids headed to college and decide they can't (or don't want) to swing private tuition for that many kids.
6. In the "nicest" areas of Atlanta (not metro), there are two public high schools that would be options for families. They are not the top high schools in Atlanta or the state. I can't speak to Maryland.

So somebody can pay $40k per year for 5 kids, but now they decide they can’t pay more for college?

This whole debate was because someone implied that a $10k per year Zell scholarship suddenly had all the private school kids wanting UGA.

That doesn’t seem like a reasonable argument for why full pay private school kids are now interested in UGA.

If people wanted to save money and chose UGA they would pick it Zell
Scholarship or not.

You're also forgetting that the truly top kids are not only getting Zell, they're getting a completely full ride. And yes, I think spending $200,000 for five kids to attend private K-12 is very different than spending 1.5 million for college. Maybe I would feel differently if I were wealthy.

Regardless of money, I think top kids are applying to UGA because they feel it's a good school and want it as an option. The lower tuition is just a nice bonus. You do not have to agree, and that is completely okay!

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Private school GA kids pick UGA for an abundance of reasons more than cost. They have deep connections to top Greek life. They know they want to stay in the south. They know they have connections to future jobs. They know they have zero interest in going to GA Tech with a subpar social life. Ditto Emory with even less of an athletic program. Go Dawgs!

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And I’ll add that GA private school kids who want engineering pick Auburn for similar reasoning

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Anonymous wrote:Private school GA kids pick UGA for an abundance of reasons more than cost. They have deep connections to top Greek life. They know they want to stay in the south. They know they have connections to future jobs. They know they have zero interest in going to GA Tech with a subpar social life. Ditto Emory with even less of an athletic program. Go Dawgs!

This isn't the reason, they're just rich rids who are subpar students. They could easily go to Vandy or UNC is they wanted the top academic and traditional social life.

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Anonymous wrote:Private school GA kids pick UGA for an abundance of reasons more than cost. They have deep connections to top Greek life. They know they want to stay in the south. They know they have connections to future jobs. They know they have zero interest in going to GA Tech with a subpar social life. Ditto Emory with even less of an athletic program. Go Dawgs!

This isn't the reason, they're just rich rids who are subpar students. They could easily go to Vandy or UNC is they wanted the top academic and traditional social life.

Why would they go to Vandy or UNC when UGA also has top academics and traditional social life? Not to mention better football at UGA.

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Yes, Vandy and UNC are inline with schools that private GA kids would consider. They are vibrant, social, sporty schools. I’m just saying that UGA offers that too in a way that GT and Emory don’t. And GA kids are better CONNECTED to UGA in all the ways that matter. That’s why a GA private school kid would pick UGA over other schools. The only thing UGA lacks is great engineering. And that’s why a strong private school GA kid would pick Auburn for engineering.

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And I’ll add that my daughter turned down Vandy for UGA. Nothing to do with being a subpar student. Didn’t apply to UNC. Didn’t apply to Emory. Also turned down GT, but knew she didn’t want engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Vandy and UNC are inline with schools that private GA kids would consider. They are vibrant, social, sporty schools. I’m just saying that UGA offers that too in a way that GT and Emory don’t. And GA kids are better CONNECTED to UGA in all the ways that matter. That’s why a GA private school kid would pick UGA over other schools. The only thing UGA lacks is great engineering. And that’s why a strong private school GA kid would pick Auburn for engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Congrats everyone! If there’s any chance your kid will go, pay the security deposit $35? $50? on Monday morning. Be ready to go at your computer (or tell your kid) by 5:30 am.., speed through the prompts and pay deposit to get your priority. Your kid will probably get an email this weekend- make sure they have everything you/they need to do this.
Housing priority is no joke.
5:30 am is too early but they won’t tell you exactly when it opens. So best be ready. And hit refresh.

It’s sad what you public school parents have to do.

It’s a southern thing not a public/private thing. People were saying the same about SMU.

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Anonymous wrote:Private school GA kids pick UGA for an abundance of reasons more than cost. They have deep connections to top Greek life. They know they want to stay in the south. They know they have connections to future jobs. They know they have zero interest in going to GA Tech with a subpar social life. Ditto Emory with even less of an athletic program. Go Dawgs!

This isn't the reason, they're just rich rids who are subpar students. They could easily go to Vandy or UNC is they wanted the top academic and traditional social life.

Why would they go to Vandy or UNC when UGA also has top academics and traditional social life? Not to mention better football at UGA.

Because UGA isn't a top school.

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UGA has a 50% in state acceptance rate and a 52% in state yield rate.

It stands to reason that wealthier kids with other college options use UGA as a safety and attend other schools that are target/reaches…nearly all of which cost more.

Do any of the top privates give a summary of where kids go to college and the numbers?

52% is a strong yield rate for a flagship with no ED…but it’s no surprise that yield rates are higher with groups of more limited financial means not for tuition and for travel.

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Lovett says 83% of their graduating class went to college out-of-state.