Another day, another school shooting

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Anonymous wrote:So sad...such a ridiculous country where a 14 year old can get an assault rifle without much trouble.

Police Interviewed Suspect About Shooting Threats in 2023
The 14-year-old student accused of killing four people at his Georgia high school was questioned about online threats, which he denied having made, the F.B.I. said. In a news briefing, the authorities said the weapon used in the shooting was an “AR-platform-style weapon.”

It was his dad’s gun. His dad is a hunter.

His social media is full of mass shootings. Why aren’t parents parenting and monitoring their kids’s phones and social media accounts?

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Anonymous wrote:Parents must be held accountable! Police investigated the kid last year for threatening to shoot up his school. Mom and dad should be in jail with him.

Yup.
“The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised access to them.”

The state must get involved. We cannot trust the word or judgement of just any parent . Do you think troubled kids ever have troubled parents ????

How come these red states think they can dictate how a woman’s womb is used. Come between her and her doctor, but not enter a household that contains firearms and a troubled kid? Therapy and weapons confiscation should have been mandated in this case.

If the gun came from their house, hopefully the state holds the parents accountable and puts them on trial. That's a small step that can start helping until we politicians/judges who will enable real answers.

The parents should be held accountable if the gun came from their household. However, this action is just a bandaid and not a cure for the next mass shooting. We need serious gun control laws in USA.

It is shameful that all other developed/developing countries have figured this out and the USA is adamantly ignoring facts.

+1 You’d think a visit from the FBI and the intervening conviction of the Michigan shooter’s parents would have clued them in but some people have more guns than brains.

The FBI has said there was no law that the kid violated. You don't like it--advocate for changing the laws so that there are more restrictions on storing and using guns. If not, you're just blowing hot air. Thoughts and prayers.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s time we start locking up these insane kids to protect the normal ones.

+1. We need parents to start parenting. All these kids have access to social media and their social media presence is often filled with violence. Where are the parents? My parents had access to all of our stuff until we moved out of the house.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do private religious schools not have this problem?

Um....wrong. Private schools have shootings too. Here's one from 2023 at a Christian academy in Tennessee.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/nashville-school-shooting.html
In March, an armed assailant breached the campus of the Covenant School, a private academy in the Green Hills neighborhood of Nashville, and killed three students and three staff members.

The shooter was identified as Audrey E. Hale, ‌a 28-year-old former student of the school who lived in the area‌ and was being treated for an emotional disorder. The assailant was killed by the police minutes after they arrived at the scene.

The police have not yet determined a motive, but stressed that they believed that the school and its church had been targets, not any single person. In documents, the police said, there was evidence

This was done by a mentally ill adult. Not a child.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents must be held accountable! Police investigated the kid last year for threatening to shoot up his school. Mom and dad should be in jail with him.

Yup.
“The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised access to them.”

The state must get involved. We cannot trust the word or judgement of just any parent . Do you think troubled kids ever have troubled parents ????

How come these red states think they can dictate how a woman’s womb is used. Come between her and her doctor, but not enter a household that contains firearms and a troubled kid? Therapy and weapons confiscation should have been mandated in this case.

If the gun came from their house, hopefully the state holds the parents accountable and puts them on trial. That's a small step that can start helping until we politicians/judges who will enable real answers.

The parents should be held accountable if the gun came from their household. However, this action is just a bandaid and not a cure for the next mass shooting. We need serious gun control laws in USA.

It is shameful that all other developed/developing countries have figured this out and the USA is adamantly ignoring facts.

+1 You’d think a visit from the FBI and the intervening conviction of the Michigan shooter’s parents would have clued them in but some people have more guns than brains.

The FBI has said there was no law that the kid violated. You don't like it--advocate for changing the laws so that there are more restrictions on storing and using guns. If not, you're just blowing hot air. Thoughts and prayers.

Well he’s violated laws now, with assistance from his parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents must be held accountable! Police investigated the kid last year for threatening to shoot up his school. Mom and dad should be in jail with him.

Yup.
“The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised access to them.”

The state must get involved. We cannot trust the word or judgement of just any parent . Do you think troubled kids ever have troubled parents ????

How come these red states think they can dictate how a woman’s womb is used. Come between her and her doctor, but not enter a household that contains firearms and a troubled kid? Therapy and weapons confiscation should have been mandated in this case.

If the gun came from their house, hopefully the state holds the parents accountable and puts them on trial. That's a small step that can start helping until we politicians/judges who will enable real answers.

Yes. That father needs to be handled like the Crumbleys were. He should have his day in court, but the community should see what type of irresponsible parental behavior is considered criminal and punishable. There are far too many parents who are not responding to their children's cry for help and who are not ensuring that their children do not have access to household firearms.

I think we need to find out if indeed the weapon came from the home first.

We already know:

- the kid made repeated, specific threats,
- more than a year in advance
- threats were so serious the FBI got involved, and yet:

The school did not expel him. They did not even suspend him. Not even for a day.

Not one day?!? Seriously??

So much misinformation. The kid was new to the school. He was there for only 2 weeks and transferred in. Probably a freshman considering his age.

He denied the claims to the FBI and said he got hacked.

The responsibility lies on the parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but gun control won’t fix anything. Guns aren’t the problem, people and mental illness are the problem.

I’m from Chicago where Illinois has some of the most strict gun laws. We are pretty high in the ranks for gun violence.

Banning rifles won’t do anything when most gun violence and shootings are done by a pistol.

Criminals will always find a way to get guns, regardless if it’s legal. Look at all the felons committing mass shootings ( a mass shooting is 3 or more people shot) with illegal guns.

What we need to do is look into social media ties and mental illness. Why is it that gun ownership was prevalent before 2010 and we didn’t hear of any mass shootings as a normal occurrence. Social media has been on a drain on our society for years. All these mentally ill kids trying to become famous.


We can guns and we will took into the next London. They are having a huge epidemic of knifing deaths and attacks.

While we are at it, let’s ban cars too. They kill way more people and have been used by certain extremists to mow people down in mass events.

Taking the right to bear arms against a tyrannical government is not the answer. The answer is properly treating the mentally ill and doing away with social media.

And most of the guns used in crimes were purchased in the neighboring states with more relaxed gun laws. People tend to leave that part out when they use Chicago as an example of how gun laws don't work. How many are coming from Indiana???

That's fiction democrats have dreamed up to rationalize bad behavior. No, the shootings in inner-cities are mostly gang, drug and turf related. Many are repeat offenders. Regardless of what you think, guns don't shoot by themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:The only way things are going to change are:

1. Make parents legally responsible for everything their child does with firearms. Including ALL prison time as if they pulled the trigger themselves. Let the parents prove in court that they couldn’t possibly have known or prevented it.

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2. Make our communities safer so normal people don’t feel like they need to have weapons in the home. I came from a country with much stronger gun laws and I never wanted weapons because I knew criminals weren’t running around outside. People commit a crime and they were locked away for a very long time, period. This isn’t the case here and so yes, I’m looking to get a firearm for the house now (plus a good safe and appropriate training obviously).

When we address both of those things, things can change. Until then, it will just continue.

Our right to bear arms isn’t just for community safety. It’s to protect the citizens from a tyrannical government. We do not want to be the next Venezuela.

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Anonymous wrote:I know this is freedom of speech infringement but shutting down some of these nutty extremist online communities would probably help. I think this is part of the issue and addresses why this didn’t happen much in the past. It’s easier for people to find community for their messed up ideas and sink themselves into the internet. Mentally ill and chronologically online is a bad combination.

Tech companies are private entities not the government. The first amendment forbids the government from infringing on our right to free speech.

Tech companies are free to take responsibility for what is on their platforms and I would argue it’s legislation Congress should implement pronto.

But it’s a fool’s errand to have this conversation be framed by the GOP. We need a new SCOTUS to reverse Heller (and Dobbs).

Vote blue, up and down the ballot.

Yes, it's working so well in very blue cities where crime and shootings are rampant. It just has to be that!

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but gun control won’t fix anything. Guns aren’t the problem, people and mental illness are the problem.

I’m from Chicago where Illinois has some of the most strict gun laws. We are pretty high in the ranks for gun violence.

Banning rifles won’t do anything when most gun violence and shootings are done by a pistol.

Criminals will always find a way to get guns, regardless if it’s legal. Look at all the felons committing mass shootings ( a mass shooting is 3 or more people shot) with illegal guns.

What we need to do is look into social media ties and mental illness. Why is it that gun ownership was prevalent before 2010 and we didn’t hear of any mass shootings as a normal occurrence. Social media has been on a drain on our society for years. All these mentally ill kids trying to become famous.


We can guns and we will took into the next London. They are having a huge epidemic of knifing deaths and attacks.

While we are at it, let’s ban cars too. They kill way more people and have been used by certain extremists to mow people down in mass events.

Taking the right to bear arms against a tyrannical government is not the answer. The answer is properly treating the mentally ill and doing away with social media.

Good lord, People like you are why we can't have nice things.

I speak the truth. You just don’t like it.

Taking away guns won’t do anything. People will still find a way just like the Uk and extremists using knives and cars.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad...such a ridiculous country where a 14 year old can get an assault rifle without much trouble.

Police Interviewed Suspect About Shooting Threats in 2023
The 14-year-old student accused of killing four people at his Georgia high school was questioned about online threats, which he denied having made, the F.B.I. said. In a news briefing, the authorities said the weapon used in the shooting was an “AR-platform-style weapon.”

It was his dad’s gun. His dad is a hunter.

His social media is full of mass shootings. Why aren’t parents parenting and monitoring their kids’s phones and social media accounts?

How do you have access to his social media?

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

How do you know there was no security? Still if you want to play this game let’s play it. Every time I get in a security line at the airport, government building or sport stadium I know no one line has been screened. Anyone around me can have a bomb, a hand gun and or an assault rifle. The security line becomes the easiest target.

The current strategy of “let’s do nothing- just wait patiently until all guns are banned” does not appear to be working out very well. Until such a thing occurs, increases in security procedures need to be the focus unless we want this to keep happening

How about a national red flag law? How about a national assault weapons ban? How about raising the age to gun ownership to over 21 nationally?

Assault weapons are already banned in America. Democrats are so ignorant about guns you can’t take them seriously.

Took a while to get to the "AR-15's aren't assault weapons. Look at me, I'm so cool and Democrats are so stupid". Thanks for your useless contribution. Certainly can't take you seriously.

An AR-15 isn’t an assault weapon.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but gun control won’t fix anything. Guns aren’t the problem, people and mental illness are the problem.

I’m from Chicago where Illinois has some of the most strict gun laws. We are pretty high in the ranks for gun violence.

Banning rifles won’t do anything when most gun violence and shootings are done by a pistol.

Criminals will always find a way to get guns, regardless if it’s legal. Look at all the felons committing mass shootings ( a mass shooting is 3 or more people shot) with illegal guns.

What we need to do is look into social media ties and mental illness. Why is it that gun ownership was prevalent before 2010 and we didn’t hear of any mass shootings as a normal occurrence. Social media has been on a drain on our society for years. All these mentally ill kids trying to become famous.


We can guns and we will took into the next London. They are having a huge epidemic of knifing deaths and attacks.

While we are at it, let’s ban cars too. They kill way more people and have been used by certain extremists to mow people down in mass events.

Taking the right to bear arms against a tyrannical government is not the answer. The answer is properly treating the mentally ill and doing away with social media.

And most of the guns used in crimes were purchased in the neighboring states with more relaxed gun laws. People tend to leave that part out when they use Chicago as an example of how gun laws don't work. How many are coming from Indiana???

False. Most of the guns are illegal with felons who can’t own a gun.

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Anonymous wrote:Epidemic of mental illness.

Epidemic of gun culture and gun worshipping where people take Christmas card photos holding guns and gun manufacturers post ads showing toddlers with guns.

Epidemic of bullying. These kids are always bullied and they have parents who do nothing to help them.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but gun control won’t fix anything. Guns aren’t the problem, people and mental illness are the problem.

I’m from Chicago where Illinois has some of the most strict gun laws. We are pretty high in the ranks for gun violence.

Banning rifles won’t do anything when most gun violence and shootings are done by a pistol.

Criminals will always find a way to get guns, regardless if it’s legal. Look at all the felons committing mass shootings ( a mass shooting is 3 or more people shot) with illegal guns.

What we need to do is look into social media ties and mental illness. Why is it that gun ownership was prevalent before 2010 and we didn’t hear of any mass shootings as a normal occurrence. Social media has been on a drain on our society for years. All these mentally ill kids trying to become famous.


We can guns and we will took into the next London. They are having a huge epidemic of knifing deaths and attacks.

While we are at it, let’s ban cars too. They kill way more people and have been used by certain extremists to mow people down in mass events.

Taking the right to bear arms against a tyrannical government is not the answer. The answer is properly treating the mentally ill and doing away with social media.

And most of the guns used in crimes were purchased in the neighboring states with more relaxed gun laws. People tend to leave that part out when they use Chicago as an example of how gun laws don't work. How many are coming from Indiana???

That's fiction democrats have dreamed up to rationalize bad behavior. No, the shootings in inner-cities are mostly gang, drug and turf related. Many are repeat offenders. Regardless of what you think, guns don't shoot by themselves.

I never said they did. I said the guns aren't coming from Illinois. A large percentage of them come from Indiana.