"Is MCPS losing its edge?"

[Anonymous]

And if you believe this (Ie MCPS has students in their best interest) I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I’m listing. This school system is basically awash in cash - it’s become a profit target for multinational publishing empires- and this hurts admin ethics. (Who go and work for them. Hi Monifa! How are you?).

Once MCPS jumped in bed with Pearson low more than a decade ago - and sold a generation down the river by exchanging poor curriculum choices for the highest dollar. The kids had/have no chance.

Here’s a parlor trick. Look up Louisiana reading scores in that same decade - Roughly from Starr (2012) until present. In that same decade friggin Louisiana - once tied with Mississippi for highest illiteracy brought up reading scores by10 points by demanding curricula that was solid and standard. MCPS was going the other way and hiding data.

https://www.knoe.com/2024/07/09/la-k-3-reading-scores-increase-10-first-literacy-screener/?outputType=amp

Now it is ingrained in the culture.

[Anonymous]

Mcps is off the rails now, as many public school systems are.
Essentially no attendance policies enforced.
Overfunded vs outcomes. Shockingly low academic policies/standards.
Administrations are unimpressive as talent has dryed up.
It’s all about appearance rather than performance.
Merit scholarship finalists way down at leading HS’s
DEI expansion much like everywhere else.
Public awareness has begun.
The rest of the world doesn’t play this way.
Get your popcorn ready.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

Interesting but I've heard RJ is a lot more effective than corporal punishment.

False dichotomy much? Let's just have real discipline with real consequences that students wish to avoid.

Seriously. Casting it as RJ be corporal punishment is a straw man.

Bring back detentions, Saturday school, failing kids, have them clean the school for vandalism, expel, suspend…..

Detention, expulsion and suspension are punitive disciplinary responses and MCPS and Maryland have turned away from them calling them racist and/or ineffective.

Nevermind that their so-called restorative practices have failed to prove effective either, but they are convinced the old ways were wrong and harmful.

Clearly they haven’t turned away from them as there are students who receive detention and are suspended each year.

Obviously there are kids not getting all A’s and B’s despite DCUM’s thought otherwise.

Expel and then what?

George B Thomas Saturday school already exist to help students. Further, if it was a regular day who is staffing that?

George B Thomas Saturday School helps students? How? No data on that.
It is a tuition based program designed to provide extra work for MCPS teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is that 50% of children in the U.S. have a history of poverty.

This is due to the economic policies of the U.S. where we have 800+ billionaires who have more combined wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the U.S. population.

Schools are not able address this. Band aides at most to keep giving kids a fighting chance at success in life.

No, it is not because we have billionaires. It is because most children are being born to poor immigrants and low income parents from "generational poverty." And the tide of new poor children keeps coming every year.

That's your opinion. Data show that wealth inequality is higher in the United States than in almost any other developed country and has risen for much of the past 60 years. We have billionaires who pay zero dollars in taxes and our national infrastructure and schools show it.

Except the US spends some of the most money per kid in school out of all industrialized nations. MoCo is well above national average. Yet performance continues to sink and the quality of the schools go down the sh!tter every year.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend when you import the entire 3rd world who can't even speak English. Or you have a bunch of ahole parents who impose zero discipline on their kids.

You'd see performance improve if they brought back the switch and whopped their asses in public whenever they wanted to disrupt the classroom. If the parents won't do it, schools should.

Interesting but I've heard RJ is a lot more effective than corporal punishment.

False dichotomy much? Let's just have real discipline with real consequences that students wish to avoid.

Seriously. Casting it as RJ be corporal punishment is a straw man.

Bring back detentions, Saturday school, failing kids, have them clean the school for vandalism, expel, suspend…..

Detention, expulsion and suspension are punitive disciplinary responses and MCPS and Maryland have turned away from them calling them racist and/or ineffective.

Nevermind that their so-called restorative practices have failed to prove effective either, but they are convinced the old ways were wrong and harmful.

Clearly they haven’t turned away from them as there are students who receive detention and are suspended each year.

Obviously there are kids not getting all A’s and B’s despite DCUM’s thought otherwise.

Expel and then what?

George B Thomas Saturday school already exist to help students. Further, if it was a regular day who is staffing that?

George B Thomas Saturday School helps students? How? No data on that.
It is a tuition based program designed to provide extra work for MCPS teachers.

Teachers volunteer and are paid. It’s a Jon.

[Anonymous]

Federal regulations and Maryland state laws got rid of consequences for kids and parents. A lot will need to corrected at those levels before MCPS can turn things around.

The politicians and elites forced this onto schools. These people don’t even have kids in public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Federal regulations and Maryland state laws got rid of consequences for kids and parents. A lot will need to corrected at those levels before MCPS can turn things around.

The politicians and elites forced this onto schools. These people don’t even have kids in public schools.

Agreed. It was super progressive policies that have led us here. And it is what voters want. It is almost impossible to turn around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Federal regulations and Maryland state laws got rid of consequences for kids and parents. A lot will need to corrected at those levels before MCPS can turn things around.

The politicians and elites forced this onto schools. These people don’t even have kids in public schools.

Name the bills and the laws so we can advocate to have them updated or rescinded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
'Is MCPS losing its edge?"

College Admissions data
Cool school spaces

MoCo360 / Bethesda Magazine article

Another thread? It's been discussed amso many times:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1027567.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Federal regulations and Maryland state laws got rid of consequences for kids and parents. A lot will need to corrected at those levels before MCPS can turn things around.

The politicians and elites forced this onto schools. These people don’t even have kids in public schools.

Name the bills and the laws so we can advocate to have them updated or rescinded.

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[Anonymous]

When we became parents in this country we realized that K-12 curriculum and instruction is sub par across US. MCPS remains the better option in DMV public schools as well as DMV private schools.

We are legal immigrants who came to US with plum job offers in hand. We realized that we were invited because of the excellent education that we got in our country of origin. So, the last thing we wanted was to make our own kids less competitive by relying on the education that was being given to them.

We just cherry picked from MCPS magnet curriculum, TJ, Stuyvesant, Sugarland(TX), India and Singapore and supplemented ourselves at home. My kids went to MCPS magnet programs.

I admire parents who throw money, effort, time, advocacy etc to better their children education but the truth is that the clock is ticking. Your kid is in the school system for a finite time only and you need to do whatever you can to make sure that they get a robust and well rounded education while they are under your roof.

[Anonymous]

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When we became parents in this country we realized that K-12 curriculum and instruction is sub par across US. MCPS remains the better option in DMV public schools as well as DMV private schools.

We are legal immigrants who came to US with plum job offers in hand. We realized that we were invited because of the excellent education that we got in our country of origin. So, the last thing we wanted was to make our own kids less competitive by relying on the education that was being given to them.

We just cherry picked from MCPS magnet curriculum, TJ, Stuyvesant, Sugarland(TX), India and Singapore and supplemented ourselves at home. My kids went to MCPS magnet programs.

I admire parents who throw money, effort, time, advocacy etc to better their children education but the truth is that the clock is ticking. Your kid is in the school system for a finite time only and you need to do whatever you can to make sure that they get a robust and well rounded education while they are under your roof.

What you did widens the racial achievement gap and is, therefore, racist. Do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Federal regulations and Maryland state laws got rid of consequences for kids and parents. A lot will need to corrected at those levels before MCPS can turn things around.

The politicians and elites forced this onto schools. These people don’t even have kids in public schools.

Agreed. It was super progressive policies that have led us here. And it is what voters want. It is almost impossible to turn around.

It’s not impossible to turn it around. It takes adults being adults instead of adults being kids friends and peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
When we became parents in this country we realized that K-12 curriculum and instruction is sub par across US. MCPS remains the better option in DMV public schools as well as DMV private schools.

We are legal immigrants who came to US with plum job offers in hand. We realized that we were invited because of the excellent education that we got in our country of origin. So, the last thing we wanted was to make our own kids less competitive by relying on the education that was being given to them.

We just cherry picked from MCPS magnet curriculum, TJ, Stuyvesant, Sugarland(TX), India and Singapore and supplemented ourselves at home. My kids went to MCPS magnet programs.

I admire parents who throw money, effort, time, advocacy etc to better their children education but the truth is that the clock is ticking. Your kid is in the school system for a finite time only and you need to do whatever you can to make sure that they get a robust and well rounded education while they are under your roof.

You were lucky. Not all of our bright kids got offered spots in magnets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mcps is off the rails now, as many public school systems are.
Essentially no attendance policies enforced.
Overfunded vs outcomes. Shockingly low academic policies/standards.
Administrations are unimpressive as talent has dryed up.
It’s all about appearance rather than performance.
Merit scholarship finalists way down at leading HS’s
DEI expansion much like everywhere else.
Public awareness has begun.
The rest of the world doesn’t play this way.
Get your popcorn ready.

Dried

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
When we became parents in this country we realized that K-12 curriculum and instruction is sub par across US. MCPS remains the better option in DMV public schools as well as DMV private schools.

We are legal immigrants who came to US with plum job offers in hand. We realized that we were invited because of the excellent education that we got in our country of origin. So, the last thing we wanted was to make our own kids less competitive by relying on the education that was being given to them.

We just cherry picked from MCPS magnet curriculum, TJ, Stuyvesant, Sugarland(TX), India and Singapore and supplemented ourselves at home. My kids went to MCPS magnet programs.

I admire parents who throw money, effort, time, advocacy etc to better their children education but the truth is that the clock is ticking. Your kid is in the school system for a finite time only and you need to do whatever you can to make sure that they get a robust and well rounded education while they are under your roof.

Parents who throw money effort time and advocacy at problems are engaged and doing what is necessary currently for their kid WHILE doing what they can to help others.

Change isn’t impossible, but it requires time, effort, advocacy, not just complaint.