NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are going to vote for Biden, are you honestly saying you know wouldn't vote Dem if, Kamala gets the nomination?
On the flip side, if you typically vote Democrat, but we're not going to vote Biden, will you vote for, Kamala?


If you are upset about the choices made in the Biden administration from the economy to the border, why would Kamala escape judgment for that? She was part of that as VP.

If you don’t like the direction the country has taken over the last four years, it makes sense to not vote for either, regardless of political party.

This election will be about the record of the administration not personalities. Only outsiders like Whitmer or Newsom would escape this issue.


So much this. Kamala would be another puppet. Biden 2.0, just younger and healthier. Honestly makes no difference to me. People who are still pro Biden up until now make it clear they are ok with WH team/“experts”/shadow govt running things, and I don’t believe that is what a presidency should be. An outsider who is actually willing and able to lead would change things.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that today is the day to ask yourself/ am I truly an ally to women of color?

Are you going to push Kamala out of line for a white woman or a gay white man?


NP. I am sick of candidates being selected based on their race or gender. We are supposed to be a meritocracy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pritzker makes the most sense.

Midwest, a governor, and an actually wealthy person vs a fake billionaire and able to draw serious donors. Will make business feel good about the ticket.

And— I know I’m repeating myself— will shore up the donor base.

But my favorite ladies only ticket is actually Kamala and Liz Cheney. If 2024 is going to be about putting country over party and country over self-interest…she’s the person to make that point.


If it’s country over party then the push should be for Biden to step down now and make Kamala president, not to have a person who can’t manage a coherent sentence to keep his office for several months.



Unfortunately, Kamala Harris isn't winning any awards either in the "manage a coherent sentence" department
Anonymous
Rambling’ Biden Gets Nasty With Bronze Star Democrat on Zoom Call

Joe Biden got nasty at times in a “tense” Zoom meeting with dozens of moderate Democratic lawmakers who called his viability on the presidential ticket into question on Saturday.

Among them was Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO), a former Army Ranger who served three tours in the Middle East, who found himself on the brunt end of a personal attack from Biden after he asked about the importance of national security to voters in November, Puck reported.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lost-respect-joe-biden-gets-nasty-with-bronze-star-democrat-jason-crow
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pritzker makes the most sense.

Midwest, a governor, and an actually wealthy person vs a fake billionaire and able to draw serious donors. Will make business feel good about the ticket.

And— I know I’m repeating myself— will shore up the donor base.

But my favorite ladies only ticket is actually Kamala and Liz Cheney. If 2024 is going to be about putting country over party and country over self-interest…she’s the person to make that point.


If it’s country over party then the push should be for Biden to step down now and make Kamala president, not to have a person who can’t manage a coherent sentence to keep his office for several months.



Unfortunately, Kamala Harris isn't winning any awards either in the "manage a coherent sentence" department


At least that scenario would be honest. Keeping Biden in until January but also doing away with all his donated funds and primary votes is not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that today is the day to ask yourself/ am I truly an ally to women of color?

Are you going to push Kamala out of line for a white woman or a gay white man?


It is a dilemma.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are going to vote for Biden, are you honestly saying you know wouldn't vote Dem if, Kamala gets the nomination?
On the flip side, if you typically vote Democrat, but we're not going to vote Biden, will you vote for, Kamala?


If you are upset about the choices made in the Biden administration from the economy to the border, why would Kamala escape judgment for that? She was part of that as VP.

If you don’t like the direction the country has taken over the last four years, it makes sense to not vote for either, regardless of political party.

This election will be about the record of the administration not personalities. Only outsiders like Whitmer or Newsom would escape this issue.


So much this. Kamala would be another puppet. Biden 2.0, just younger and healthier. Honestly makes no difference to me. People who are still pro Biden up until now make it clear they are ok with WH team/“experts”/shadow govt running things, and I don’t believe that is what a presidency should be. An outsider who is actually willing and able to lead would change things.


Maybe there is a "shadow team" in charge right now, but throughout the past 3 years, it has been Biden, not nameless faceless bureaucrats running the country. Harris is a different person and she would have different ideas and policies. As VP, we haven't heard much from her about her policies - because that hasn't been her job. If she becomes the candidate now, or if there is a competitive open conference, then we'll hear about them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are going to vote for Biden, are you honestly saying you know wouldn't vote Dem if, Kamala gets the nomination?
On the flip side, if you typically vote Democrat, but we're not going to vote Biden, will you vote for, Kamala?


If you are upset about the choices made in the Biden administration from the economy to the border, why would Kamala escape judgment for that? She was part of that as VP.

If you don’t like the direction the country has taken over the last four years, it makes sense to not vote for either, regardless of political party.

This election will be about the record of the administration not personalities. Only outsiders like Whitmer or Newsom would escape this issue.


So much this. Kamala would be another puppet. Biden 2.0, just younger and healthier. Honestly makes no difference to me. People who are still pro Biden up until now make it clear they are ok with WH team/“experts”/shadow govt running things, and I don’t believe that is what a presidency should be. An outsider who is actually willing and able to lead would change things.


Maybe there is a "shadow team" in charge right now, but throughout the past 3 years, it has been Biden, not nameless faceless bureaucrats running the country.


I don’t believe for second that it’s been Biden for three years. No way.
Anonymous
Realizing we can’t go back in time, by why didn’t the DNC build for 2024 back in 2020, after Joe won?

I was shocked and disappointed when he said he was running again. I get why, bc of Trump. But we can’t just build a party with the opposing party/Trump in mind.

We should have a deep bench of leaders in the party.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that today is the day to ask yourself/ am I truly an ally to women of color?

Are you going to push Kamala out of line for a white woman or a gay white man?


NP. I am sick of candidates being selected based on their race or gender. We are supposed to be a meritocracy.


HA!!! This has never been a meritocracy. Candidates have been selected by their race (White) and gender (Male) since our inception. The fact that you can't see that speaks volumes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are going to vote for Biden, are you honestly saying you know wouldn't vote Dem if, Kamala gets the nomination?
On the flip side, if you typically vote Democrat, but we're not going to vote Biden, will you vote for, Kamala?


If you are upset about the choices made in the Biden administration from the economy to the border, why would Kamala escape judgment for that? She was part of that as VP.

If you don’t like the direction the country has taken over the last four years, it makes sense to not vote for either, regardless of political party.

This election will be about the record of the administration not personalities. Only outsiders like Whitmer or Newsom would escape this issue.


So much this. Kamala would be another puppet. Biden 2.0, just younger and healthier. Honestly makes no difference to me. People who are still pro Biden up until now make it clear they are ok with WH team/“experts”/shadow govt running things, and I don’t believe that is what a presidency should be. An outsider who is actually willing and able to lead would change things.


Maybe there is a "shadow team" in charge right now, but throughout the past 3 years, it has been Biden, not nameless faceless bureaucrats running the country. Harris is a different person and she would have different ideas and policies. As VP, we haven't heard much from her about her policies - because that hasn't been her job. If she becomes the candidate now, or if there is a competitive open conference, then we'll hear about them.


Remember Democrats didn't like her ideas the first time around. We've been cheated out of a primary this time around due to poor planning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that today is the day to ask yourself/ am I truly an ally to women of color?

Are you going to push Kamala out of line for a white woman or a gay white man?


It is a dilemma.



It's only a dilemma when there's a good solution available. And there isn't one here. Kamala Harris is not Michelle Obama. She is not a woman of color that the vast majority of the country respects and likes. Biden said he'd only select a woman of color as VP in 2020. She has always been the DEI candidate, and has done absolutely nothing over the past four years to distinguish herself from that albatross.

If the elite of the Democratic Party are going to replace the President, winnability should be the only metric. The DEI candidate that is "owed" the position is not going to fly in 2024. She will lose even worse than Biden. And yet, if the Democratic elite pass over the woman of color for some white candidate, there will be civil war within the Democratic Party and they are still going to lose.

So it's not a dilemma. There is no solution this year. Biden and his allies destroyed the Democratic Party. A new generation will have to pick up the pieces in 2028.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that today is the day to ask yourself/ am I truly an ally to women of color?

Are you going to push Kamala out of line for a white woman or a gay white man?


It is a dilemma.



It's only a dilemma when there's a good solution available. And there isn't one here. Kamala Harris is not Michelle Obama. She is not a woman of color that the vast majority of the country respects and likes. Biden said he'd only select a woman of color as VP in 2020. She has always been the DEI candidate, and has done absolutely nothing over the past four years to distinguish herself from that albatross.

If the elite of the Democratic Party are going to replace the President, winnability should be the only metric. The DEI candidate that is "owed" the position is not going to fly in 2024. She will lose even worse than Biden. And yet, if the Democratic elite pass over the woman of color for some white candidate, there will be civil war within the Democratic Party and they are still going to lose.

So it's not a dilemma. There is no solution this year. Biden and his allies destroyed the Democratic Party. A new generation will have to pick up the pieces in 2028.


Agree. There is no way out of the this. Plus the huge issue of the deception. Clearly Biden didn’t wake up like this one morning, causing an emergency situation and need for replacement. They propped him up, had someone in the background, running the show, and were confident they could get away deceiving the people of America for another 4 years, until it all crumbled. Trust will take years to get back.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that today is the day to ask yourself/ am I truly an ally to women of color?

Are you going to push Kamala out of line for a white woman or a gay white man?


It is a dilemma.



It's only a dilemma when there's a good solution available. And there isn't one here. Kamala Harris is not Michelle Obama. She is not a woman of color that the vast majority of the country respects and likes. Biden said he'd only select a woman of color as VP in 2020. She has always been the DEI candidate, and has done absolutely nothing over the past four years to distinguish herself from that albatross.

If the elite of the Democratic Party are going to replace the President, winnability should be the only metric. The DEI candidate that is "owed" the position is not going to fly in 2024. She will lose even worse than Biden. And yet, if the Democratic elite pass over the woman of color for some white candidate, there will be civil war within the Democratic Party and they are still going to lose.

So it's not a dilemma. There is no solution this year. Biden and his allies destroyed the Democratic Party. A new generation will have to pick up the pieces in 2028.


….or, hear me out, Dems quit their bedwetting party and rally behind their sitting President. You can already see the circular firing squad preparing for the open floor convention.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that today is the day to ask yourself/ am I truly an ally to women of color?

Are you going to push Kamala out of line for a white woman or a gay white man?


Maybe some people think that being an ally doesn’t just mean selecting people to be tokens and making decisions solely based upon their race/gender? It was wrong to exclude people based on race, how can it be right to include people based on their race? Makes no sense.
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