Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
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I don’t know. Their lifestyle is incomprehensible to us. But if — as I’ve read on a midnight-nursing deep-dive— they were childhood friends who lived nearby in the Hamptons and nyc, sharing an ultra rich social bubble, and their relationship started with bizarre luxury shoe gifts and other crazy materialist gestures, it may all have been…almost normal to them. Like, if you live in a neighborhood where it’s normal to get $300 bimonthly hair color (which is a ridiculous extravagance in its own context) instead of $800 weekly facials, would it be hard for you to switch to coloring at home while all your friends frequented the salon? Privilege is highly contextual. I can see it in my own lifestyle creep.
If it weren’t for the instagram account I would feel sorry for her. While I could see how somebody could get stuck in a social bubble, the instagram showed that she also saw through that bubble, and saw the ordinary folk gawking. So she didn’t live in a vacuum. She knew there were other ways of living. |
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https://www.instagram.com/kristincecchi?igsh=MjVsYjVydTM1ZHh0 |
Anonymous
that husband doesn't seem heterosexual to me, i'm just saying. |
Anonymous
An adult doesn't have to take part in anything they're not willing nor able to. It's almost as if you're insinuating they were victims of peer pressure and, from my vantage point, i don't think it's the case. Additionally, your use of the word [/b] Ultra-rich is a tad too liberal for me. They certainly would've led comfortable lives had they chosen to live within their means but, by Hamptons standards, they were certainly not ultra-rich, hence the debt-fueled lifestyle that culminated in this tragedy. |
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Well yeah, having $0 means you are not ultra rich. But they are OF the ultra rich — that’s the world they grew up in. What seems like sick and excessive spending to us little folk is less so to them. A lot of silver spoon types don’t understand money. Another human tendency that I can identify and even relate to: a few years ago when my primary earner husband got very sick and I should have put the breaks on all discretionary spending, I started spending more than usual. Why? It was almost like plowing ahead and willing the life I wanted into some sort of physical form would make it come to pass. Shopping can feel like a kind of control. And of course if you are in a super depressing situation the seratonin jolt of shopping is great on a chemical level…until the guilt sets it. So maybe she did see what was going on and this was a bad coping mechanism. I agree that the wife sounds not great. But I don’t think she is a monster who murdered her husband. |
Anonymous
Okay, I think this is mean and untrue but yeah the $800 facials got me too. I imagine a lot of this was deep down she knew and saying things like this was overcompensating. "Get this $800 facial every week that makes you not even need botox and filler" when she clearly was also getting botox and filler. Insane. I do not think this story did her any favors. My takeaway was that she was a striver to put her head in the sand at her husband's expense. |
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| Just read the NYT article (yes I'm way behind) and I found it way too sympathetic to the Millers, especially her. Come on. |
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Levy |
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| If you leave a suicide now and mention the $15 million insurance payout, you don't get the money because you're perpetrating fraud. The problem with the Millers is they can't help but flaunt their money, even in a suicide note. |
Anonymous
I think it made her look terrible. She was either a total shallow airhead oblivious to both her finances and husband’s obvious distress or she knew, which is even worse. |
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I thought it was fairly obvious she was at least somewhat aware even if she didn't know the nitty gritty specifics. |
Anonymous
The plastic surgery and fake looking teeth make her look like she's his mom. |
Anonymous
As long as the policy was taken out more than a couple years ago, suicide is not disqualifying. |
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This happened to a family in our neighborhood on a much smaller scale. They had the nicest house, renos, cars, country club, trips, everyone dressed impeccably, wife heavily involved at the kids school. Flowing romantic praise from him to her on social media.
Turns out he stole $8M from clients over 10 years, including some of their friends and an elderly widow. (He was a wealth manager of some sort.) He was caught, fired, and eventually imprisoned. They sold everything, divorced, and she was given a job by the husband of one of her friends. She lives with the kids in a rented townhouse a few towns over. But like this story, it was extra shocking to the community just because of how showy they were. |
Anonymous
| I wonder if the life insurance can be seized to pay back some debts that are jointly owed by him and her. |