Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think about DC “socialite” influencers who also post about similar lifestyles. Wondering what skeletons are in their closets.

LINKS PLEASE, do we even have socialites??

no offense and rip or whatever to Steve Mnuchin’s wife

https://www.instagram.com/kristincecchi?igsh=MjVsYjVydTM1ZHh0

I don’t think someone with less than 4000 followers is an influencer. However she does appear to spend a boat load so l get that comparison to Candace Miller.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/NYCinfluencersnark/comments/14c8sp3/mama_and_tata_this_is_so_cringe_but_mostly_just/

watch this short video. knowing what we know now. look at her husband's eyes. so sad.

Yuck. She is cringeworthy. Keeps going on while they just sit there. I would hate to be sitting at a table with someone doing this.

How much did he owe in total? Seems like it was more than $15 million but maybe she will get something out of it if he owes less.

She's obviously extremely egotistical and liked lording her lifestyle over others. I bet this comeuppance is utter humiliation for her. Her acquaintances will not be kind, I expect.

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This lady definitely knew something was up or she play dumb! There is no way she was unaware because of the way she was spending money!!

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Anonymous wrote:Also, how was this guy able to secure life insurance policies of $15M?! And then I guess he went through the fine print and waited out the suicide exemption clause?

Seems excessive and an abuse of the life insurance system, no?

Anyone who’s willing to pay the premiums, pass a physical, etc can secure whatever amount they are willing to pay for

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think about DC “socialite” influencers who also post about similar lifestyles. Wondering what skeletons are in their closets.

LINKS PLEASE, do we even have socialites??

no offense and rip or whatever to Steve Mnuchin’s wife

Ha ha! Is that loony loon still around?

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think about DC “socialite” influencers who also post about similar lifestyles. Wondering what skeletons are in their closets.

LINKS PLEASE, do we even have socialites??

no offense and rip or whatever to Steve Mnuchin’s wife

Ha ha! Is that loony loon still around?

I’ll never forget her iconic Cruella moment! Those villain gloves!

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the life insurance can be seized to pay back some debts that are jointly owed by him and her.

No.

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I can't remember where i read it, but when this store broke,there was a someone who was quoted as saying that, relationships in these circles are very transactional.And it really hit on what i've long observed about the dynamics of relationships amongst this type of crowd.

Poverty is humiliating,isolating and detrimental to one's overall health.But,as a poor person, if you're lucky enough to have someone who cares for you then you know it's as authentic,genuine and sincere as it gets. The fact that this Brandon Miller guy didn't or thought he couldn't talk about the true state of their finances with his so-called wife is just so.....damning and revelatory of the kind of superficial relationships these people entertain.

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Anonymous wrote: I can't remember where i read it, but when this store broke,there was a someone who was quoted as saying that, relationships in these circles are very transactional.And it really hit on what i've long observed about the dynamics of relationships amongst this type of crowd.

Poverty is humiliating,isolating and detrimental to one's overall health.But,as a poor person, if you're lucky enough to have someone who cares for you then you know it's as authentic,genuine and sincere as it gets. The fact that this Brandon Miller guy didn't or thought he couldn't talk about the true state of their finances with his so-called wife is just so.....damning and revelatory of the kind of superficial relationships these people entertain.

I don’t think that’s it at all. When you’re in finance in ny, there are wild swings all the time. Look at some of the most successful real estate funds, and most have had moments when they’ve been underwater. Many of the successful managers are former athletes, across the board they’re either very cocky or on the spectrum. They always think there’s the next big thing and they usually have to double down to get there. I’ve seen some wild rides. Obviously they don’t usually end like this, but if every manager gave up when he was down, a lot of funds would fold. This one is more complicated w/ being the second generation, but look how he went after a bigger project when he was in debt. That’s what they do. It just generally doesn’t carry over into extremes in personal spending.
Nothing about their lifestyle was equal to the size of their fund, even if it had been successful. She was spending as if he were a manager at tiger or citadel, not some run of the mill 2nd tier RE fund.

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Anonymous wrote: I can't remember where i read it, but when this store broke,there was a someone who was quoted as saying that, relationships in these circles are very transactional.And it really hit on what i've long observed about the dynamics of relationships amongst this type of crowd.

Poverty is humiliating,isolating and detrimental to one's overall health.But,as a poor person, if you're lucky enough to have someone who cares for you then you know it's as authentic,genuine and sincere as it gets. The fact that this Brandon Miller guy didn't or thought he couldn't talk about the true state of their finances with his so-called wife is just so.....damning and revelatory of the kind of superficial relationships these people entertain.

I don’t think that’s it at all. When you’re in finance in ny, there are wild swings all the time. Look at some of the most successful real estate funds, and most have had moments when they’ve been underwater. Many of the successful managers are former athletes, across the board they’re either very cocky or on the spectrum. They always think there’s the next big thing and they usually have to double down to get there. I’ve seen some wild rides. Obviously they don’t usually end like this, but if every manager gave up when he was down, a lot of funds would fold. This one is more complicated w/ being the second generation, but look how he went after a bigger project when he was in debt. That’s what they do. It just generally doesn’t carry over into extremes in personal spending.
Nothing about their lifestyle was equal to the size of their fund, even if it had been successful. She was spending as if he were a manager at tiger or citadel, not some run of the mill 2nd tier RE fund.

The question I have is why couldn’t he reign in her spending? They could have kept all their nice things, gone on all the nice trips, but cut down on the crazy daily expenses. Personal chef for all meals? Personal training on top of the Tracy Anderson membership? Fresh flowers delivered daily? Only flying private? All of this adds up.

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Anonymous wrote:Could someone please post a gift link to the NYT article?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/08/nyregion/brandon-miller-suicide-debt.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.EIRz.3VAEivd3Mwyz&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

The drone pic of their Hamptons house featuring the green pool full of algae is fitting for the article...

I was wondering why it was so clouded. That makes perfect sense - the first time you miss the monthly payment to the pool guy, he stops showing up. Gets gross very quickly. A pool guy is like $300/month....and they couldn't make that payment. So dumb.

I was wondering too! All the more reason that she HAD to know that they were beyond broke. For Chrissake, if you need to borrow $1000, then that's a very, very bad sign. There's no excuse---sure, if you are working class, working minimum wage, then it's understandable. But, this couple had no excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:If you leave a suicide now and mention the $15 million insurance payout, you don't get the money because you're perpetrating fraud. The problem with the Millers is they can't help but flaunt their money, even in a suicide note.

Omg. This so apt and darkly funny. Netflix should use this in the show that they create, and give you credit.

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Anonymous wrote: I can't remember where i read it, but when this store broke,there was a someone who was quoted as saying that, relationships in these circles are very transactional.And it really hit on what i've long observed about the dynamics of relationships amongst this type of crowd.

Poverty is humiliating,isolating and detrimental to one's overall health.But,as a poor person, if you're lucky enough to have someone who cares for you then you know it's as authentic,genuine and sincere as it gets. The fact that this Brandon Miller guy didn't or thought he couldn't talk about the true state of their finances with his so-called wife is just so.....damning and revelatory of the kind of superficial relationships these people entertain.

I don’t think that’s it at all. When you’re in finance in ny, there are wild swings all the time. Look at some of the most successful real estate funds, and most have had moments when they’ve been underwater. Many of the successful managers are former athletes, across the board they’re either very cocky or on the spectrum. They always think there’s the next big thing and they usually have to double down to get there. I’ve seen some wild rides. Obviously they don’t usually end like this, but if every manager gave up when he was down, a lot of funds would fold. This one is more complicated w/ being the second generation, but look how he went after a bigger project when he was in debt. That’s what they do. It just generally doesn’t carry over into extremes in personal spending.
Nothing about their lifestyle was equal to the size of their fund, even if it had been successful. She was spending as if he were a manager at tiger or citadel, not some run of the mill 2nd tier RE fund.

Couple of things

-why didn't or couldn't he tell the wife their lifestyle wasn't sustainable in the short,medium or long term?

- The description of the NY real estate industry doesn't apply to him—he was never even a medium player, not even close.He was at the very bottom of the pole as far as NY real estate is concerned.

- Nothing has described this guy as being in finance. It's been said over and over again that he was in real estate .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I can't remember where i read it, but when this store broke,there was a someone who was quoted as saying that, relationships in these circles are very transactional.And it really hit on what i've long observed about the dynamics of relationships amongst this type of crowd.

Poverty is humiliating,isolating and detrimental to one's overall health.But,as a poor person, if you're lucky enough to have someone who cares for you then you know it's as authentic,genuine and sincere as it gets. The fact that this Brandon Miller guy didn't or thought he couldn't talk about the true state of their finances with his so-called wife is just so.....damning and revelatory of the kind of superficial relationships these people entertain.

They were both gross, manipulative people but she is leagues worse than her poor late husband. She seems totally shameless but all the people in her crass materialistic social circle will drop her in a hot minute if they haven’t already. Mostly crass Long Island types who rip people off, move to Manhattan with the proceeds of their frauds, and then pretend for a while they are nobility. Yuck.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I can't remember where i read it, but when this store broke,there was a someone who was quoted as saying that, relationships in these circles are very transactional.And it really hit on what i've long observed about the dynamics of relationships amongst this type of crowd.

Poverty is humiliating,isolating and detrimental to one's overall health.But,as a poor person, if you're lucky enough to have someone who cares for you then you know it's as authentic,genuine and sincere as it gets. The fact that this Brandon Miller guy didn't or thought he couldn't talk about the true state of their finances with his so-called wife is just so.....damning and revelatory of the kind of superficial relationships these people entertain.

I don’t think that’s it at all. When you’re in finance in ny, there are wild swings all the time. Look at some of the most successful real estate funds, and most have had moments when they’ve been underwater. Many of the successful managers are former athletes, across the board they’re either very cocky or on the spectrum. They always think there’s the next big thing and they usually have to double down to get there. I’ve seen some wild rides. Obviously they don’t usually end like this, but if every manager gave up when he was down, a lot of funds would fold. This one is more complicated w/ being the second generation, but look how he went after a bigger project when he was in debt. That’s what they do. It just generally doesn’t carry over into extremes in personal spending.
Nothing about their lifestyle was equal to the size of their fund, even if it had been successful. She was spending as if he were a manager at tiger or citadel, not some run of the mill 2nd tier RE fund.

Couple of things

-why didn't or couldn't he tell the wife their lifestyle wasn't sustainable in the short,medium or long term?

- The description of the NY real estate industry doesn't apply to him—he was never even a medium player, not even close.He was at the very bottom of the pole as far as NY real estate is concerned.

- Nothing has described this guy as being in finance. It's been said over and over again that he was in real estate .

He was at his dad’s real estate investment firm. His dad died at an inopportune time where the dad’s business had a lot of debt. Brandon was expecting to inherit 200 million I read, and the dad was in debt and essentially he got nothing. Then COVID happened and killed NYC real estate, especially commercial. They were spending like they were getting a 200mill inheritance and for whatever reason they couldn’t adjust lifestyle once it did not come to fruition. Whatever low 8 figure wealth they had sustained that lifestyle for like 6 years, but it ran out this year and he started swindling his peers, it spiraled over the course of like 6-10 months and ended in his suicide.