Why don’t schools make you just through some hoops for redshirting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

YOU.NEED.THERAPY.

Your obsession with this topic is beyond. You are ill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

YOU.NEED.THERAPY.

Your obsession with this topic is beyond. You are ill.

You need therapy if you think a 7 year old belongs in a regular K. Maybe a special ed classroom but not a regular one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The amazing thing about DCUM anti-redshirt discussions is that no matter how they start, by the end of the thread the pure unmitigated crazy of the anti-redshirters is on full display. We are now about ready for the natural law anti-redshirter to tell us about how kids born in Sept-Dec are redshirted because they violated the natural law by being born in the fall of an academic year, or to hear the mom who knows of 22-year-old high school seniors. I am hoping to hear from both. Maybe we can even get a sighting of the private school mom who wanted to file a lawsuit against the private school she paid her kid to go to because her child was too small for the kindergarten fair rides!

It’s why these threads are so entertaining. The crazy always leaks out. Always.

You are the crazy one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

YOU.NEED.THERAPY.

Your obsession with this topic is beyond. You are ill.

You need therapy if you think a 7 year old belongs in a regular K. Maybe a special ed classroom but not a regular one.

Lucky for you there are no more "special ed" classes. It's all about inclusion. Those kids are right where they belong according to you.

[Anonymous]

Why don't private school redshirters just admit it's about sports? Nobody in private school world is doing it for the academic edge or for social reasons. Public school redshirters usually have better reasons for doing it, IME.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don't private school redshirters just admit it's about sports? Nobody in private school world is doing it for the academic edge or for social reasons. Public school redshirters usually have better reasons for doing it, IME.

Many privates insist kids be held back. It’s a space issue and far easier on the teachers. When I looked at private a few insisted we hold out kid back and repeat classes as they had a slower math track. It was what was best for the,, not the child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

YOU.NEED.THERAPY.

Your obsession with this topic is beyond. You are ill.

You need therapy if you think a 7 year old belongs in a regular K. Maybe a special ed classroom but not a regular one.

No, they aren’t where they belong. Given their age and issues they should get sped services. They are not in the developmental appropriate grade.

Lucky for you there are no more "special ed" classes. It's all about inclusion. Those kids are right where they belong according to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

OP, public school funding is based on either enrollment or attendance depending on the state or district. That means public schools will do whatever it takes to get more butts in seats, including turning a blind eye to undesirable effects of excessive redshirting.

It is indeed a vast funding conspiracy that only brave anti-redshirters forge forward to disclose. You’ve discovered the secret. It’s probably Soros’ fault, somewhere.

100% pedantic in every single post. You’re a snoozefest dear. Deep breath and unclench! Have a margarita.

While you are drinking your margarita and ignoring your delayed kid, we are helping ours so they can succeed.

2 of the 3 7 year old kids are in the g+t program that has 5 kids total in a group of 100 students. Sure, they are succeeding and ahead. I just don’t know if I would want to be that person. My kid doesn’t need to be in g+t to be successful. We all have different things we consider a success. That’s yours. I hope it’s working for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

OP, public school funding is based on either enrollment or attendance depending on the state or district. That means public schools will do whatever it takes to get more butts in seats, including turning a blind eye to undesirable effects of excessive redshirting.

It is indeed a vast funding conspiracy that only brave anti-redshirters forge forward to disclose. You’ve discovered the secret. It’s probably Soros’ fault, somewhere.

100% pedantic in every single post. You’re a snoozefest dear. Deep breath and unclench! Have a margarita.

While you are drinking your margarita and ignoring your delayed kid, we are helping ours so they can succeed.

2 of the 3 7 year old kids are in the g+t program that has 5 kids total in a group of 100 students. Sure, they are succeeding and ahead. I just don’t know if I would want to be that person. My kid doesn’t need to be in g+t to be successful. We all have different things we consider a success. That’s yours. I hope it’s working for you.

That means nothing is they are two years older. They may or may not be gifted as they are not in the right grade. They should be in 1 or 2. My kid is the youngest and in all advanced classes. It’s about it not age. Those kids still may struggle later on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

YOU.NEED.THERAPY.

Your obsession with this topic is beyond. You are ill.

You need therapy if you think a 7 year old belongs in a regular K. Maybe a special ed classroom but not a regular one.

No, they aren’t where they belong. Given their age and issues they should get sped services. They are not in the developmental appropriate grade.

Lucky for you there are no more "special ed" classes. It's all about inclusion. Those kids are right where they belong according to you.

Ok. Hope you enjoy the birthday parties of the 8 yr olds in 1st grade. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean anything will change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

YOU.NEED.THERAPY.

Your obsession with this topic is beyond. You are ill.

You need therapy if you think a 7 year old belongs in a regular K. Maybe a special ed classroom but not a regular one.

No, they aren’t where they belong. Given their age and issues they should get sped services. They are not in the developmental appropriate grade.

Lucky for you there are no more "special ed" classes. It's all about inclusion. Those kids are right where they belong according to you.

Ok. Hope you enjoy the birthday parties of the 8 yr olds in 1st grade. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean anything will change.

I would let my kid associate with 7-8 year olds in the same grade in k. There is something wrong with those parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

OP, public school funding is based on either enrollment or attendance depending on the state or district. That means public schools will do whatever it takes to get more butts in seats, including turning a blind eye to undesirable effects of excessive redshirting.

It is indeed a vast funding conspiracy that only brave anti-redshirters forge forward to disclose. You’ve discovered the secret. It’s probably Soros’ fault, somewhere.

100% pedantic in every single post. You’re a snoozefest dear. Deep breath and unclench! Have a margarita.

While you are drinking your margarita and ignoring your delayed kid, we are helping ours so they can succeed.

2 of the 3 7 year old kids are in the g+t program that has 5 kids total in a group of 100 students. Sure, they are succeeding and ahead. I just don’t know if I would want to be that person. My kid doesn’t need to be in g+t to be successful. We all have different things we consider a success. That’s yours. I hope it’s working for you.

They aren’t ahead. They are behind and bored.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Sep 1 cut off. My kid’s kinder class of 20 kids has three 7 year olds. I’m just wondering why the schools don’t make it a little harder to hold back if you’re a school year birthday. I don’t even care about summer or late spring but socially it is a big gap for my own child to be with peers that much older. One is prone to bossing them around and teasing. Why don’t the schools require a medical reason for people holding kids who have birthdays that far from the cut off? I’m not talking about the kids who are 2m from the cutoff but kids who are 6+ months.

YOU.NEED.THERAPY.

Your obsession with this topic is beyond. You are ill.

You need therapy if you think a 7 year old belongs in a regular K. Maybe a special ed classroom but not a regular one.

No, they aren’t where they belong. Given their age and issues they should get sped services. They are not in the developmental appropriate grade.

Lucky for you there are no more "special ed" classes. It's all about inclusion. Those kids are right where they belong according to you.

Ok. Hope you enjoy the birthday parties of the 8 yr olds in 1st grade. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean anything will change.

I would let my kid associate with 7-8 year olds in the same grade in k. There is something wrong with those parents.

That sounds like a win for all involved.

[Anonymous]

Redshirting parents are doing what they think is best for their kid. That is in fact the job of parents.

And there are rules. You have to be enrolled in kindergarten by six. People who redshirt a winter birthday are still following those rules. Adding more rules isn’t going to make it less likely that parents try to choose better for their kids, just restrict the franchise.

We have a September birthday and we’ll likely redshirt her because we know there will be kids who turn seven in her kindergarten and we think it’s unfair for her to be four. That doesn’t make it wrong for the other parents to have made the choice to hold back their five y/o.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Redshirting parents are doing what they think is best for their kid. That is in fact the job of parents.

And there are rules. You have to be enrolled in kindergarten by six. People who redshirt a winter birthday are still following those rules. Adding more rules isn’t going to make it less likely that parents try to choose better for their kids, just restrict the franchise.

We have a September birthday and we’ll likely redshirt her because we know there will be kids who turn seven in her kindergarten and we think it’s unfair for her to be four. That doesn’t make it wrong for the other parents to have made the choice to hold back their five y/o.

That’s not fair to hold her back because of others poor choices.