professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Florida welcomes intellectuals who allow academic freedom. Indoctrination is not welcome.

I know you believe this. But academicians in all disciplines are worried about Florida. Chemistry professors, CS professors, engineering professors, as well as humanities professors. There is a suppression of intellectual freedom by govt which is really problematic.

Is it more problematic than suppression of conservative and Judeo/ Christian thought, which is common at academic institutions across the country?

OMG. Conservatives are the most whiny people ever. If a colleague is against Judeo Christian thought (wtf?), you push back and work on whatever your scholarship is.

Please show me where in law academia prevents people from engaging in judeo Christian thought? Profs in Florida are worried because govt is censoring them. In the law. How do you not get this? And how do you even equate that to some colleague on campus that spouts off something you don’t agree with?

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Florida welcomes intellectuals who allow academic freedom. Indoctrination is not welcome.

I know you believe this. But academicians in all disciplines are worried about Florida. Chemistry professors, CS professors, engineering professors, as well as humanities professors. There is a suppression of intellectual freedom by govt which is really problematic.

Is it more problematic than suppression of conservative and Judeo/ Christian thought, which is common at academic institutions across the country?

Nice dog whistle, professional victim.

How is this a dog whistle?

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Professors allegedly leaving Florida can only make a dumb state dumber.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are tenure track positions at UF and FSU and Miami really going unfilled?

Given the academic job market I can’t imagine people turning down jobs at UF or FSU or Miami unless they are total superstars

No. There is gnashing of teeth, but tenure track positions will never lack for applicants

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are tenure track positions at UF and FSU and Miami really going unfilled?

Given the academic job market I can’t imagine people turning down jobs at UF or FSU or Miami unless they are total superstars

No. There is gnashing of teeth, but tenure track positions will never lack for applicants

Except tenure track means sh** in Florida anymore, and yes they are lacking for applicants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are tenure track positions at UF and FSU and Miami really going unfilled?

Given the academic job market I can’t imagine people turning down jobs at UF or FSU or Miami unless they are total superstars

No. There is gnashing of teeth, but tenure track positions will never lack for applicants

Not really but keep saying it.

Last year, DeSantis signed a bill into law requiring public university leaders to review professors’ tenure every five years. And a bill introduced earlier this month would go even further, allowing university trustees to call for a tenure review “at any time.”

Professors and their supporters said that legislation clawing back tenure’s job protections jeopardizes academic freedom and Florida’s position as the top public university system in the nation.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/03/23/ron-desantis-tenure-track-academic-freedom-uf-usf-fsu-professor/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are tenure track positions at UF and FSU and Miami really going unfilled?

Given the academic job market I can’t imagine people turning down jobs at UF or FSU or Miami unless they are total superstars

No. There is gnashing of teeth, but tenure track positions will never lack for applicants

Not really but keep saying it.

Last year, DeSantis signed a bill into law requiring public university leaders to review professors’ tenure every five years. And a bill introduced earlier this month would go even further, allowing university trustees to call for a tenure review “at any time.”

Professors and their supporters said that legislation clawing back tenure’s job protections jeopardizes academic freedom and Florida’s position as the top public university system in the nation.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/03/23/ron-desantis-tenure-track-academic-freedom-uf-usf-fsu-professor/

I thought California was the top public university system in the nation. When was Florida ever considered #1 or even high ranked?

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People are moving to Florida from all over the Northeast.

No one is leaving Florida particularly if they are in tenure track at UF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are moving to Florida from all over the Northeast.

No one is leaving Florida particularly if they are in tenure track at UF.

You’re not paying attention. If the government can review your tenure at any time, there are no tenure-track positions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are moving to Florida from all over the Northeast.

No one is leaving Florida particularly if they are in tenure track at UF.

No people are moving from the SE and Texas to Florida.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are moving to Florida from all over the Northeast.

No one is leaving Florida particularly if they are in tenure track at UF.

You’re not paying attention. If the government can review your tenure at any time, there are no tenure-track positions.

+1 there is no more actual tenure track in florida - and yes, of course this (plus the overall hostile political/educational climate) is affecting where people are choosing to take jobs!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are moving to Florida from all over the Northeast.

No one is leaving Florida particularly if they are in tenure track at UF.

You’re not paying attention. If the government can review your tenure at any time, there are no tenure-track positions.

+1 there is no more actual tenure track in florida - and yes, of course this (plus the overall hostile political/educational climate) is affecting where people are choosing to take jobs!

Turns out fascism has the exact damper effect on education and intelligent people as everyone thought.

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”The state will launch a formal investigation into Florida Atlantic University’s presidential search, rejecting the university’s request to end the matter quickly and increasing speculation that the ultimate goal is to place a political ally of Gov. Ron DeSantis into the role.

The inspector general for the Board of Governors, the policy-making body for the state’s public universities, will conduct a formal investigation into “anomalies” in FAU’s presidential search, System Chancellor Ray Rodrigues wrote in a letter this week to Brad Levine, who chairs the FAU search committee and Board of Trustees.”
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2023/07/13/state-launches-full-scale-investigation-into-faus-presidential-search/

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Anonymous wrote:Like this, too, idiots?

DeSantis halted the hiring of a new college president because his unqualified buddy didn't get far enough in the selection process.

Is this what academic freedom looks like?

Reading the letter, the name of DeSantis's buddy doesn't come up, but instead complaints about the search firm was asking candidates for their preferred pronouns and whether they are queer or transgender, and the search committee was given a selection of names to vote on, with no prior discussion.

Followup, I misunderstood the tweet as Randy Fine didn't get to make the choice of who would be president, rather than he wasn't picked to be president.

Yep, DeSantis put the search on hold because his friend wasn't picked to be president.

It's ironic that the people who love him are supposedly so anti-communist because his purge of teachers and professors, and sweet appointments for his loyalists, sure does seem like it comes from the CCP playbook.

+1 And a reminder that Randy Fine is a former casino executive and member of the Florida House who has zero experience with education of any sort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Like this, too, idiots?

DeSantis halted the hiring of a new college president because his unqualified buddy didn't get far enough in the selection process.

Is this what academic freedom looks like?

Reading the letter, the name of DeSantis's buddy doesn't come up, but instead complaints about the search firm was asking candidates for their preferred pronouns and whether they are queer or transgender, and the search committee was given a selection of names to vote on, with no prior discussion.

Followup, I misunderstood the tweet as Randy Fine didn't get to make the choice of who would be president, rather than he wasn't picked to be president.

Yep, DeSantis put the search on hold because his friend wasn't picked to be president.

It's ironic that the people who love him are supposedly so anti-communist because his purge of teachers and professors, and sweet appointments for his loyalists, sure does seem like it comes from the CCP playbook.

+1 And a reminder that Randy Fine is a former casino executive and member of the Florida House who has zero experience with education of any sort.

but he's not woke! that makes him qualified! being friends with meatball makes him SUPER qualified!