We chose not to redshirt DS without considering the long-term consequences:

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

There are more birthdays in September through May than there are in June, July, August so it makes sense that more kids graduate at 18.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

I call it hollding back your child. Reshirting is a fancy sports term for holding back but its holding back. You aren't really holding back a fall kid, except in NY where the date is later.

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This sounds unique to your son.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like your son is very successful. He has a master's, a job, and makes very good money. I dream of that for my child.

Honestly, I think his shame may have something to do with you. It sounds like you have very high expectations, and when math and music did not come easy, you blame it on his age. Maybe he is an average kid. Nothing wrong with that, but start celebrating his accomplishments or he is always going to feel less than.

Either it’s the mother or the son has some kind of mental health issues. It’s just not normal to have that kind of reaction years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

Ignore the NY based posters. They don't understand that their state is the outlier, and everywhere else in the country K cutoffs are in September.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

There are more birthdays in September through May than there are in June, July, August so it makes sense that more kids graduate at 18.

At a minimum 75% of the kids graduating will be 18. 18 is normal, 17 is also normal, but a lot less common.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

Ignore the NY based posters. They don't understand that their state is the outlier, and everywhere else in the country K cutoffs are in September.

New York is the most populated state of in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

I call it hollding back your child. Reshirting is a fancy sports term for holding back but its holding back. You aren't really holding back a fall kid, except in NY where the date is later.

I couldn’t have put it better myself.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

You have a better chance of winning a multi-million dollar lottery than finding a redshirted August kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

Ignore the NY based posters. They don't understand that their state is the outlier, and everywhere else in the country K cutoffs are in September.

New York is the most populated state of in the country.

Not true for several decades now. Irrelevant in any case.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

Ignore the NY based posters. They don't understand that their state is the outlier, and everywhere else in the country K cutoffs are in September.

New York is the most populated state of in the country.

California, Texas, and Florida are the three most populous states. All have Sept cutoff dates. NY is in its own little bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

You have a better chance of winning a multi-million dollar lottery than finding a redshirted August kid.

?? I don't understand. I have two August kids that I held back. There are several others in their classes even. I know of June and July boys held back as well.

I personally do not think the cut off should be 9/30. Seems like 9/1 would be better.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

What do you call it when an August birthday doesn’t start kindergarten when first eligible in a 9/1 cut off school district? This is far more common than a redshirted fall birthday.

You have a better chance of winning a multi-million dollar lottery than finding a redshirted August kid.

Another NY based poster with no clue. Your Dec cutoff is out of sync with the vast majority of states. Stay in your bubble and ignore the redshirting threads because 99% of the posters here are from states with standard Sept cutoffs and are commenting in that context. This conversation is way over your head and your are coming across as a dolt.

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In Florida the cutoff is September 1st. Kids have to be 5 by September 1 to go to K.

I've never met a September boy who was sent on time and that every teacher he met didn't wish he'd been held back.