We chose not to redshirt DS without considering the long-term consequences:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

[Anonymous]

Kids can become millionaire quickest and easiest probably by suing the school systems. The school systems have so many improprieties and coverups that harm students and staff and these coverups blame teachers and throw them under the bus. Long story short is that many students have been successful because of mismanagement. Teachers have a harder time than students because teachers get no support or protection from their admin or their very expensive union so that is mainly why it's getting worse. The teacher who are suppose to be leaders are used and abused and it's a really toxic profession. Happy new year!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the OP and wanted to give an update. DS got his master’s degree this past spring from a top university and now has a 150k job. However, he says he still hasn’t fully recovered from watching his peers graduate before him. We know we can’t change the past, but I’m hoping that parents of fall-born children who haven’t started school yet will consider holding back.

As someone who only makes 50k a year, I find your son’s dismissal of his luck very offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the OP and wanted to give an update. DS got his master’s degree this past spring from a top university and now has a 150k job. However, he says he still hasn’t fully recovered from watching his peers graduate before him. We know we can’t change the past, but I’m hoping that parents of fall-born children who haven’t started school yet will consider holding back.

So your son almost has PTSD from watching his former classmates graduate before him but you’re still recommending it? Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids can become millionaire quickest and easiest probably by suing the school systems. The school systems have so many improprieties and coverups that harm students and staff and these coverups blame teachers and throw them under the bus. Long story short is that many students have been successful because of mismanagement. Teachers have a harder time than students because teachers get no support or protection from their admin or their very expensive union so that is mainly why it's getting worse. The teacher who are suppose to be leaders are used and abused and it's a really toxic profession. Happy new year!

You wrote “many students have been successful because of mismanagement “. I’m sorry, a lawsuit will be dismissed for failure to state a claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

* “middle day of a non-leap year”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like your son is very successful. He has a master's, a job, and makes very good money. I dream of that for my child.

Honestly, I think his shame may have something to do with you. It sounds like you have very high expectations, and when math and music did not come easy, you blame it on his age. Maybe he is an average kid. Nothing wrong with that, but start celebrating his accomplishments or he is always going to feel less than.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like your son is very successful. He has a master's, a job, and makes very good money. I dream of that for my child.

Honestly, I think his shame may have something to do with you. It sounds like you have very high expectations, and when math and music did not come easy, you blame it on his age. Maybe he is an average kid. Nothing wrong with that, but start celebrating his accomplishments or he is always going to feel less than.

OP 100% caused this by repeatedly telling her son that he should have been redshirted and blaming any struggles he had in school on the fact that he wasn't redshirted. Most kids don't even know what redshirting is. Most summer birthdays are not redshirted, and while it's more common with September birthdays if the district has a 10/1 cut off, it's certainly not universal. The PPs noting that lots of kids graduate high school at 17 is right -- it's very common.

Had OP instead taught her son to simply accept that someone has to be the youngest, and pointed out that he was actually doing great despite this [extremely minor] disadvantage, he might have grown up feeling proud of himself for his accomplishments instead of constantly asking "what if" regarding his age. We're talking about a matter of months here! It's ridiculous. So many kids deal with far more adversity than this and come through it well. And this kid also came through it well, yet feels aggrieved. And that's on his parents for letting him believe this is a valid grievance when it's just... not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like your son is very successful. He has a master's, a job, and makes very good money. I dream of that for my child.

Honestly, I think his shame may have something to do with you. It sounds like you have very high expectations, and when math and music did not come easy, you blame it on his age. Maybe he is an average kid. Nothing wrong with that, but start celebrating his accomplishments or he is always going to feel less than.

OP 100% caused this by repeatedly telling her son that he should have been redshirted and blaming any struggles he had in school on the fact that he wasn't redshirted. Most kids don't even know what redshirting is. Most summer birthdays are not redshirted, and while it's more common with September birthdays if the district has a 10/1 cut off, it's certainly not universal. The PPs noting that lots of kids graduate high school at 17 is right -- it's very common.

Had OP instead taught her son to simply accept that someone has to be the youngest, and pointed out that he was actually doing great despite this [extremely minor] disadvantage, he might have grown up feeling proud of himself for his accomplishments instead of constantly asking "what if" regarding his age. We're talking about a matter of months here! It's ridiculous. So many kids deal with far more adversity than this and come through it well. And this kid also came through it well, yet feels aggrieved. And that's on his parents for letting him believe this is a valid grievance when it's just... not.

The kids know birthdays and ages. They know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like your son is very successful. He has a master's, a job, and makes very good money. I dream of that for my child.

Honestly, I think his shame may have something to do with you. It sounds like you have very high expectations, and when math and music did not come easy, you blame it on his age. Maybe he is an average kid. Nothing wrong with that, but start celebrating his accomplishments or he is always going to feel less than.

OP 100% caused this by repeatedly telling her son that he should have been redshirted and blaming any struggles he had in school on the fact that he wasn't redshirted. Most kids don't even know what redshirting is. Most summer birthdays are not redshirted, and while it's more common with September birthdays if the district has a 10/1 cut off, it's certainly not universal. The PPs noting that lots of kids graduate high school at 17 is right -- it's very common.

Had OP instead taught her son to simply accept that someone has to be the youngest, and pointed out that he was actually doing great despite this [extremely minor] disadvantage, he might have grown up feeling proud of himself for his accomplishments instead of constantly asking "what if" regarding his age. We're talking about a matter of months here! It's ridiculous. So many kids deal with far more adversity than this and come through it well. And this kid also came through it well, yet feels aggrieved. And that's on his parents for letting him believe this is a valid grievance when it's just... not.

I couldn’t have put it better myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Thank you. Signed late Dec. baby who graduated at 17, college at 21, Phd by 25, postdoc now millionaire in late 40s. And, grad school was free.

lol at flexing for being a millionaire in late 40s. I’d guess that’s a third of college graduates are millionaires at that stage in life, so not as impressive as you think it is.

I find it amusing that your most notable accomplishments are getting degrees a year younger than your peers. To me, thats not an indication of being successful. It’s what you do with that knowledge. Often it’s having the maturity, social skills, and problem solving that is lagging behind, not getting the A in class and doing well on tests.

Taking one extra year, especially for boys can help. It doesn’t matter if it’s in kindergarten, gap year before college, or taking a year after college to strengthen a medical school application as an example.

Let families decide what’s best for them without interjecting in their decision. It’s tacky to give yourself as an example to others.

Graduating high school at 17 is normal, as is graduating college at 21. And being a millionaire at any age is impressive, because most people never are at any point in their life.

Only for the very youngest. More normal is 18.

July 2nd is the middle day of a leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. Since high school graduations are in May or June, the majority of students are 17 upon graduation.

Just quit it with this nonsense. Many schools have a 9/1 cut off. Your little school district in NY is an anomaly.

+1. DCUM-area schools cut off Sept 1-Sept 30. Most kids graduate at 18, even redshirted summer birthdays.

Kids with summer birthdays don’t get redshirted. It’s only fall kids who are considered for redshirting.

Summer boys do. A lot of private schools redshirt boys with birthdays after May