We chose not to redshirt DS without considering the long-term consequences:

Anonymous
The purpose is this post is to encourage parents of kids born between October and December to think long-term when deciding whether or not to send them to kindergarten at 4. Our son has a late November birthday, and when he was 4, all that mattered to us was that he was ready for Kindergarten. We didn't ask ourselves how he would do in high school or college. Thus, we sent him at 4, and he has ultimately been emotionally damaged because of it.

Now contrary to popular opinion, he didn't feel as bad about being the last to get his driver's license as one might expect. After all, it's a hard and fast rule in this country that if you're under 16, you're now allowed a driver's license. Thus, our son knew that his classmates weren't driving before him because of anything he had done wrong; he knew that it was just the law and there was no reason for him to blame himself. However, our son experienced other problems that I'm sure were an indirect result of his relative age. However, because these problems were an indirect result, he had a much harder time not blaming himself for them.

One such example is that he didn't make it into his high school's top orchestra until his senior year, while most of his orchestra friends made it in their junior year. Concerts were torture for him his junior year, as he had to sit in the audience watching his classmates perform some of the greatest classical pieces ever written.

Another example is that he failed Pre-Calculus his junior year, and had to retake it his senior year, meaning he graduated high school with no knowledge of Calculus. Whenever he got together with his friends to study during his senior year, he had to endure the shame of pulling out his Pre-Calculus textbook while all his friends pulled out their Calculus(and in some cases, Multivariable Calculus) textbooks.

But, most recently and most importantly, is that he failed to graduate from college in 4 years. Due to his immaturity when he entered college, he wasn't able to handle as much as most of his classmates, and the result was that he ended up falling a year behind. He should've graduated this spring, but he didn't. It's going to be another year before he graduates and he is miserable about it. These past weeks, he's had to endure his friends from high school as well as his friends from his first year at the university(including his old roommates) posting pictures of themselves in their caps and gowns on facebook. The moderator of that group, the other day, made a post saying, "Congratulations college grads!" which filled our son with shame. A parent of one of his friends from high school invited them to a college graduation party at their enormous house, to which our son had to gloomily decline. Even though he's graduating next year, the people he's going to graduate with are people he barely knows, whereas most people who graduate from college together have shared the full 4 years together, from start to finish.

I've never heard a parent say they regret redshirting, but I've heard many parents say they regret not redshirting, and now I understand why.
Anonymous
Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.
Anonymous
Why couldn’t he go to the graduation party? That’s like declining a wedding invitation because you’re not engaged.
Anonymous
You must not live in the dmv because with a Nov birthday he wouldn’t have we started anywhere around here.
If you live in another state where Dec is the cut off(?) he wouldn’t have been the youngest, there would be other Oct Nov Dec birthdays too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why couldn’t he go to the graduation party? That’s like declining a wedding invitation because you’re not engaged.


My son is fairly immature and he would do that. He easily feels not part of the group. I totally get it.
Anonymous
My friend’ s son is similar. He actually skipped a grade because they were military and his school options were very poor one year. He never went back and has really struggled in college. He took his sophomore year off and hopefully goes back. He’s a really smart kid, obviously since he skipped a grade, but maturity really matters.
Anonymous
My brother was redshirted and took five years to finish college anyway. He was nearly 24 when he got his BA.
Anonymous
Is it your son or you who feels shame?

(It’s odd for a college student to feel shame about a Facebook group post. Most aren’t even on Facebook)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is it your son or you who feels shame?

(It’s odd for a college student to feel shame about a Facebook group post. Most aren’t even on Facebook)


And shame over not knowing calculus in high school? Is this a troll?

There are plenty of reasons to think about the consequences of not red shirting later in school but it’s not shame.
Anonymous
My son just graduated at age 18 and barely passed pre-calc. He will probably have to retake it in college where he will barely pass it there too. He might have to take calc twice too. Life goes on.
Anonymous
Has to be fake
Anonymous
eh.. hindsight is 20/20
Anonymous
Thanks for sharing. These are important considerations and a lot of people aren’t thinking about the possible long term consequences of always being the youngest
Anonymous
Uh yeah turning four in October to December of kindergarten is really young. Holding him back wouldn’t have been red shirting him. It would have been sending him on time. You sent him early, unless you live in NYC or something
Anonymous
Redshirting is august birthday or earlier
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