Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?

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Anonymous wrote:Institutionalization is really the only answer. Not sure why we keep dancing around it. The problem keeps getting worse, and no other solution has worked. I'll vote for any candidate who advocates for institutionalization.

What is the question?

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We should enact an “adopt an unhoused person program”where we do outreach and establish a rapport, familiarity and ongoing conversation with an unhoused person culminating in house sharing-moving the unhoused person into our home and making them part of our family.’

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That's because you aren't providing free food and drugs. And cleaning.[/quote]
So we are to provide free housing, food, and maid service? Is that all?[/quote]

People getting housing vouchers to live in apartments (rental buildings and rented condo units) throughout DC also get EBT cards so they do get free food.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

This sounds very similar to the Florida and Texas plan for the undocumented.

DC can charter buses as easily as Florida and Texas. Trade them homeless for refugees wanting to work

More than half of the homeless work.

In this scenario what is defined as “homeless” and what is defined as “work”. In my state you have to list you work to be eligible for food stamps (or you have to go to classes no one wants to go to). A lot of guys doing “odd jobs” and self reporting hours. Just saying, I don’t think pretending that people living in tent communities are also working regular hours at the local cvs is doing anyone any favors.

There is a desperate need for institutionalization for the chronically homeless residing on sidewalks. But, also, I don’t think these people “don’t want to work”, I think they are unable to due to completely debilitating mental health and addiction issues.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

This sounds very similar to the Florida and Texas plan for the undocumented.

DC can charter buses as easily as Florida and Texas. Trade them homeless for refugees wanting to work

More than half of the homeless work.

The ones who work are typically not living in tents on the streets. They are more likely couch surfing or other types of arrangements.

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Anonymous wrote:Institutionalization is really the only answer. Not sure why we keep dancing around it. The problem keeps getting worse, and no other solution has worked. I'll vote for any candidate who advocates for institutionalization.

I would say rehabilitation is the only answer.

For the ones who are sober and don't have mental health issues, helping them get gainful employment and finding them an affordable place to live

For the ones who have substance abuse issues, getting them sober and back on their feet.

For the ones who have mental health issues, seeing if they can be treated and brought back to being functional - if not, institutionalization.

And either way it's far more expensive to try and do this in the most expensive places in America, like DC, San Francisco or NYC. It should be done in more affordable communities.

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Anonymous wrote:Institutionalization is really the only answer. Not sure why we keep dancing around it. The problem keeps getting worse, and no other solution has worked. I'll vote for any candidate who advocates for institutionalization.

I would say rehabilitation is the only answer.

For the ones who are sober and don't have mental health issues, helping them get gainful employment and finding them an affordable place to live

For the ones who have substance abuse issues, getting them sober and back on their feet.

For the ones who have mental health issues, seeing if they can be treated and brought back to being functional - if not, institutionalization.

And either way it's far more expensive to try and do this in the most expensive places in America, like DC, San Francisco or NYC. It should be done in more affordable communities.

Housing-first doesn't work. It needs to be rehab and treatment, then housing. And, I think they SHOULD start committing the chronically homeless who have substance abuse and/or mental health problems.

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Anonymous wrote:Settle down folks. Homelessness is an affordable housing problem, not a mental health problem. It's true that a large minority of people experiencing homelessness have serious mental illness, but it's also true that being homeless is really bad for your physical and mental health, so it's very hard to tease out whether the homelessness caused the mental illness or vice versa.

DC has plenty of money to house the homeless. It would save the federal government a ton of money because homeless people have huge medical costs just to get them stabilized before being discharged.

Sending them out to the middle of nowhere is unworkable for a variety of reasons, but I can see how it would be attractive to people who want to get rid of this population for their own benefit.

This is a load of crap. A mentally healthy person doesn’t unroll a sleeping bag or pitch a tent on Connecticut Ave because rent has gotten too high. They move somewhere else, whether it be with roommates or to a cheaper jurisdiction altogether.

They do not have the delusions (a sign of mental illness) that many homeless people around here have that lead them to think they’re entitled to like in the expensive downtown core of a major metro area.

Yeah, why don't they go be homeless in the parts of the major metro area where poor people live, so I don't have to see them!

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Sincerely, many unhoused people are not capable of living independently and without incident in completely free housing. CM Cheh commented about this problem of providing unhoused people with housing without supports. It’s led to serious problems because people don’t really end up living on the streets for years if they don’t have other concurrent issues that make it difficult for them to stay housed even when it’s provided for free.

Mary Cheh was a truly despicable politician. Sure, she commented on the problem to make it appear she was doing the right thing for her constituency. Though a lot of what she and other unscrupulous politicians, courts, and lawyers do is behind the scences.

She allowed those people to access apartments they didn't belong in who were dangerous (literally shot out the window and apartment door in my former building). Mary Cheh's interest was in all things politically correct and the status quo. She only truly represents a particular demographic.

Let's not forget she allowed the shelter and that disgusting Friendship Place that serviced people from OTHER wards.

Meanwhile, Mary Cheh knew her lack of action, would cause me to lose my life. There is no hope for me and my days are numbered. I pray her and the others will get slapped with karma.

I hope to never see Mary Cheh's despicable face and those beady eyes in what little time I have left.

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Anonymous wrote:We should enact an “adopt an unhoused person program”where we do outreach and establish a rapport, familiarity and ongoing conversation with an unhoused person culminating in house sharing-moving the unhoused person into our home and making them part of our family.’

Haha great idea! Now I just need to hide all of my kitchen knives and sleep with my Glock

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Anonymous wrote:We should enact an “adopt an unhoused person program”where we do outreach and establish a rapport, familiarity and ongoing conversation with an unhoused person culminating in house sharing-moving the unhoused person into our home and making them part of our family.’

People are doing that. Look for a mutual aid group.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

Unfortunately most homeless people do not want to go to homeless shelters or soup kitchens. They want to live in a tent, take $ and food and stuff donations, and do what they want with it.
have worked with this in SF, Phillly and now here. Same mindset and pattern. The mental illness and drug abuse was most pronounced in Philly, but SF is getting up there with homeless addicts.

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Anonymous wrote:We should enact an “adopt an unhoused person program”where we do outreach and establish a rapport, familiarity and ongoing conversation with an unhoused person culminating in house sharing-moving the unhoused person into our home and making them part of our family.’

People are doing that. Look for a mutual aid group.

But again, it only really works when the homeless person is sane and sober enough. And a big percentage of them aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

Unfortunately most homeless people do not want to go to homeless shelters or soup kitchens. They want to live in a tent, take $ and food and stuff donations, and do what they want with it.
have worked with this in SF, Phillly and now here. Same mindset and pattern. The mental illness and drug abuse was most pronounced in Philly, but SF is getting up there with homeless addicts.

They panhandle because they want cash to feed their habit.

Problem with that is that we have been becoming ever more the digital and cashless society. I rarely ever use cash for anything these days. I tell the panhandlers they're paper people living in a digital society.

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Anonymous wrote:Institutionalization is really the only answer. Not sure why we keep dancing around it. The problem keeps getting worse, and no other solution has worked. I'll vote for any candidate who advocates for institutionalization.

What is the question?

See title of thread.

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Title of thread seems to be the only viable, sensible and logical option.