Massive pentagon leak re Ukraine conflict

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, that was quick, MAGA already has proclaimed the leaker a hero



Of course they would celebrate a traitor to America, because MAGAs are traitors to America.


It's always been right there in the name:

"Make America Great Again" = America isn't great.
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Anonymous wrote:So, he's anti-war, yet he's in the armed forces?


He works for the Air National GUARD which part of the Department of DEFENSE. He might have been some naive kid thinking he was going to protect his country, who found out our military basically exists to stir up trouble around the world on behalf of terrible people. Many such cases.
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Anonymous wrote:I've no idea what his motive was, but he should be punished in any case.

However, I am more disturbed that so many people have access to so much information.

This should go up the chain of command for negligence--beginning with whoever approved him for this clearance. How much training did this kid get on what would happen if he shared information? Did he get any training on the seriousness of his job?

We hear an awful lot about training on social issues, sexual issues, etc. How much training are these young people getting on the importance of their jobs.


The clearance process is complicated enough. This guy should never have had access to what he did. No 21 year-old part-time junior airman should have had access to information that reveals sigint on the UN SG or Heads of State. By all means his boss and CoC should be looked at but the underlying problem is that way too much was available to way too many. Which is ironic because usually it's overclassification that's the problem.


He's been leakimg since he was 18. And giving people that age access is the way its always been.


For TS but some of that stuff is way above TS.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, Biden said he is not worried about the content of the leak, so all is ok. NBD.





He had to say that.


Sure. To minimize the incompetency of his administration.
It is comments like this that is one of the many reasons the public has no trust in Joe.
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Anonymous wrote:From the times

Later, someone who appeared to be Airman Teixeira drove onto the property in a red pickup truck.

When Times reporters approached the house again, the truck was parked in the driveway. Airman Teixeira’s mother and a man were standing outside in the driveway.

When asked if Airman Teixeira was there and willing to speak, the man said: “He needs to get an attorney if things are flowing the way they are going right now. The Feds will be around soon, I’m sure.”


The NYT found this guy before the feds did? Wonder if FBI agents refused to investigate the case?


And what does that tell you instinctively?


I'm hoping that the FBI hadn't moved on the guy yet because they'd had him under surveillance???? They aren't really as incompetent as this NYT story make them appear, right??? Right???




I just watched the Boston Bombing doc on Netflix. The FBI had images of the suspects fairly quickly and were determining the identity when someone leaked the images. I got the sense it was BPD, but idk. Anyways, the reason the FBI and DOJ didn't want to release them was b/c they didn't want to alert the bombers that they were on to them. Ultimately, FBI had to get out ahead of the leak, and then there was a lot of death and destruction that followed when they tried to escape. Not to mention the bombers' friends trying to destroy evidence once they recognized who it was.



Revealing that the government has been lying about its involvement in Ukraine? Sounds like whistleblowing.


Where's the big lie?

We've been transparent on equipment being transferred. As for other "involvement" the leak said there were 50 US soldiers in Ukraine. 50. Whoopie doo. Four dozen. Like we're supposed to believe that 50 American soldiers are going to take on 200,000 Russian soldiers? The role of those Americans is no doubt to observe, advise and provide training where needed, pretty standard kind of stuff.

That's a FAR cry from the stupid and ridiculous lies your Russian friends have been telling, that they are "fighting NATO troops" and claims that there were no Ukrainian troops at the front, all black GIs from America and other horsecrap.

You say lie? That's pretty ridiculous.


Their role is most likely Embassy security.
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Anonymous wrote:So, he's anti-war, yet he's in the armed forces?


He works for the Air National GUARD which part of the Department of DEFENSE. He might have been some naive kid thinking he was going to protect his country, who found out our military basically exists to stir up trouble around the world on behalf of terrible people. Many such cases.


He is a maga.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, Biden said he is not worried about the content of the leak, so all is ok. NBD.





He had to say that.


Sure. To minimize the incompetency of his administration.
It is comments like this that is one of the many reasons the public has no trust in Joe.


This is the reason this guy leaked the information. Just like you he thinks it is more important to own the libs.
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So is the part about 14 special forces on the ground true?
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, this is just so chilling. Plan to share the post article with my child. Just so sad to see kids bond with absolute strangers on the internet and get sucked into this nightmare. Smart parents getting them in touch with national media though. Jesus, I can’t imagine the panic I would have for my child in this situation.


Yes this is how I feel as well. I have a teenage son who is in gaming chat rooms on Discord…
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Anonymous wrote:So is the part about 14 special forces on the ground true?


I think one of the spokesmen at the Pentagon said that they are assigned to the embassy. (This is unusual. Normally, it is only Marines.)
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Anonymous wrote:So is the part about 14 special forces on the ground true?


If it is, so what? What difference does it make? Do you think 14 special forces dudes can take out 200,000 Russian troops? Have you been watching too many action movies?
Again they were probably there as observers, advisors and trainers.
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Anonymous wrote:So is the part about 14 special forces on the ground true?


If it is, so what? What difference does it make? Do you think 14 special forces dudes can take out 200,000 Russian troops? Have you been watching too many action movies?
Again they were probably there as observers, advisors and trainers.


Go read a little about our history in Vietnam....
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Anonymous wrote:So is the part about 14 special forces on the ground true?


I think one of the spokesmen at the Pentagon said that they are assigned to the embassy. (This is unusual. Normally, it is only Marines.)


MSG doesn't go to active war zones. Doesn't seem unusual at all.
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Anonymous wrote:Per the NYTs, these documents would’ve only been viewable in a SCIF. And phones & cameras are banned from SCIFs.

So how did a camera get inside a SCIF?

My money is that this leak is from someone inside Congress


Oh, FFS. Someone in Congress did not leak this.

Perhaps if leaks had been taken more seriously in the past, this crap would not be happening.

People have been leaking stuff for a while now, and very rarely suffer any ramifications.

Republican congressmen showed during the first impeachment that they have no respect for SCIFs.


Exactly. And everyone I know who works in SCIFs is under strict rules about phones and cameras.


I will snicker a little when we find that this leak was from some far-left Democrat trying to impress his friends.

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He’s a “young, charismatic gun enthusiast.”


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Washington Post reporters got hold of members of the Discord channel where the leaks were posted, they know the poster, and said he is in his 20s, currently serving in the military, conservative, gun enthusiast, and he got the documents from a military base that he serves on. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/12/discord-leaked-documents/

Will probably get caught very soon.


Oh this is a lot of stuff being leaked. Not many people have access to all these docs. Should be easy to track him down.


Need to find him like immediately. I don't want to be gruesome, but there's a self-harm risk here.


I would assume that they've already identified him. Heck the WaPo puff piece about him and the kids he groomed has enough detail in it for anyone with subpoena power to easily follow the trail. All that's left now is to find out whether the leaker was just an insecure narcissist trying to impress a bunch of teenagers or something more sinister. Either way the mom from that article needs to hire their son a lawyer ASAP.


Why did the mom let her son speak to WaPo in the first place?! The kid didn’t even obstruct his voice too
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Anonymous wrote:Per the NYTs, these documents would’ve only been viewable in a SCIF. And phones & cameras are banned from SCIFs.

So how did a camera get inside a SCIF?

My money is that this leak is from someone inside Congress


Oh, FFS. Someone in Congress did not leak this.

Perhaps if leaks had been taken more seriously in the past, this crap would not be happening.

People have been leaking stuff for a while now, and very rarely suffer any ramifications.

Republican congressmen showed during the first impeachment that they have no respect for SCIFs.


Exactly. And everyone I know who works in SCIFs is under strict rules about phones and cameras.


I will snicker a little when we find that this leak was from some far-left Democrat trying to impress his friends.

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He’s a “young, charismatic gun enthusiast.”


+1

Washington Post reporters got hold of members of the Discord channel where the leaks were posted, they know the poster, and said he is in his 20s, currently serving in the military, conservative, gun enthusiast, and he got the documents from a military base that he serves on. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/12/discord-leaked-documents/

Will probably get caught very soon.


Oh this is a lot of stuff being leaked. Not many people have access to all these docs. Should be easy to track him down.


Need to find him like immediately. I don't want to be gruesome, but there's a self-harm risk here.


I would assume that they've already identified him. Heck the WaPo puff piece about him and the kids he groomed has enough detail in it for anyone with subpoena power to easily follow the trail. All that's left now is to find out whether the leaker was just an insecure narcissist trying to impress a bunch of teenagers or something more sinister. Either way the mom from that article needs to hire their son a lawyer ASAP.


Why did the mom let her son speak to WaPo in the first place?! The kid didn’t even obstruct his voice too


Exactly what I wondered too. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree - they're a family of dumbasses.
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