DC delays Conn Ave bike lanes bcuz of opposition

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

One of the WABA contracts with the city include paying someone $150,000 per year, rising to $180,000 to be a “bicycle ambassador” which includes hanging out and riding around trails and bike lanes for 20 hours per week

Beyond parody. We have the worst government.

It's not beyond parody. It's just a lie.

You are claiming that it is a lie that the city is paying a WABA staff member this much to serve as a “bike ambassador” when the actual contract was posted in the thread. LOL. Do you ever stop lying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

One of the WABA contracts with the city include paying someone $150,000 per year, rising to $180,000 to be a “bicycle ambassador” which includes hanging out and riding around trails and bike lanes for 20 hours per week

Beyond parody. We have the worst government.

It's not beyond parody. It's just a lie.

You can read about the bike ambassador on the department of transportation’s web site. Sorry!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

One of the WABA contracts with the city include paying someone $150,000 per year, rising to $180,000 to be a “bicycle ambassador” which includes hanging out and riding around trails and bike lanes for 20 hours per week

Beyond parody. We have the worst government.

It's not beyond parody. It's just a lie.

You are claiming that it is a lie that the city is paying a WABA staff member this much to serve as a “bike ambassador” when the actual contract was posted in the thread. LOL. Do you ever stop lying?

Yes, it's a lie, as demonstrated by the actual contract posted in the thread.

Honest to pete, everybody needs a hobby, but surely you can find a better one than hating on bike lanes on an anonymous internet message board? Have you considered knitting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These cyclists are not just insufferable, but they're tattle tales too. What a group. When you have to work that hard to support your position, maybe it's time to recognize your position is the minority one.

Rich coming from the people who whine every day on the local neighborhood email groups.

Which the bike lobbyists quote from anonymously on twitter. They are scumbags. Not even any connection to their own neighborhoods. No concern at all that they are breaking down connections between neighbors. They don't care because they have no connection to anyone. They are out for themselves and themselves alone. True sociopaths. Is it all the protein powder? The spandex chemicals being absorbed through their testicles? Who knows, but something is wrong with them.

[Anonymous]

There’s $15 million in the 24 budget for capital bikeshare on top of the $20 million for capital bikeshare last year even though ridership keeps declining. The number of riders is way, way below what it was five years ago. Maybe people just don’t want capital bikeshare

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

A quarter of kids in DC live in poverty. Can we cut out the WABA graft and just give the money to the kids?

That’s about 30,000 kids. The city could buy each of those kids a backpack and school supplies every year for what they give WABA.

FYI, most parents think the learn-to-ride program is great. I'm happy that DC spends money on recreation for kids. There's a lot in the mayor's proposed budget on that - a new afterschool program app, lots of pool maintenance, some funds for special needs swim lessons. Truly, find something else to fixate on.

Are they spending excessive amounts of money renting googles and fins to kids? If not, that has nothing to do with being fleeced by WABA.

Are you kidding? There is a well-known dearth of swimming instruction for kids in DC. If DC expanded access by contracting with an outside organization, that would be amazing. There is actually money in the Mayor’s budget proposal to increase swim lesson access. Qualified instructors are hard to find, so if the city can contract for a good source of instructors that would be amazing.

You know what would be really amazing? Swimming lessons AND bike-riding lessons! Everyone should know how to swim, and everyone should know how to ride a bike.

Isn’t that a parents job? Teaching your kid to ride a bike is probably one of the most joyous accomplishments in life. I miss those days.

I’m sympathetic about needing professionals for swim instruction but my god there is no need to pay anyone millions to reach kids how to ride a bike. It would be cheaper and more effective to just buy every kid whose family is below AMI a $300 bike. Call ‘em “Bowser bikes” and be done with it.

We don't know if it's "millions", it's just that one anonymous person who keeps insisting it is, without evidence. Also, why are you ok with swim instruction but not with bike instruction?

I flagged the posts with false accusations of fraud. suggest you do to.

Lol, none of it was false. The numbers, taken from DC's procurement database, were all posted in the big thread months ago.

The sad part is that you likely know that.

When you kall the K Street transitway a "bike infrastructure project" and attribute its full budget to your numbers, that is a lie. Get it?

$57 million for the K Street ... bike lanes? Someone is obsessed, and it's not people who are advocating for safer, less car-prioritizing streets.

https://ddot.dc.gov/page/k-street-transitway

I don’t understand what the argument is about. Looks like a bike infrastructure project to me. If it is just about creating dedicated bus lanes, they could do that with just some red paint which would not cost $57 million.

stop lying.

“The Transitway will feature a two-way dedicated busway running in the center of K Street from 12th Street NW to 21st Street NW. The new design eliminates service lanes along K Street and places medians in the center of the roadway to protect the busway. The new medians will feature bus stops, lighting, landscaping, and pedestrian amenities. Much of the streetscape will be improved with new bioretention, landscaping, and pedestrian amenities, including Vision Zero safety improvements.”

They can have a dedicated busway with some red paint, like what they have done on H and I streets. The only thing that turns this into a capital construction project is the fact that they want to install some bike lanes.

STOP lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

A quarter of kids in DC live in poverty. Can we cut out the WABA graft and just give the money to the kids?

That’s about 30,000 kids. The city could buy each of those kids a backpack and school supplies every year for what they give WABA.

FYI, most parents think the learn-to-ride program is great. I'm happy that DC spends money on recreation for kids. There's a lot in the mayor's proposed budget on that - a new afterschool program app, lots of pool maintenance, some funds for special needs swim lessons. Truly, find something else to fixate on.

Are they spending excessive amounts of money renting googles and fins to kids? If not, that has nothing to do with being fleeced by WABA.

Are you kidding? There is a well-known dearth of swimming instruction for kids in DC. If DC expanded access by contracting with an outside organization, that would be amazing. There is actually money in the Mayor’s budget proposal to increase swim lesson access. Qualified instructors are hard to find, so if the city can contract for a good source of instructors that would be amazing.

You know what would be really amazing? Swimming lessons AND bike-riding lessons! Everyone should know how to swim, and everyone should know how to ride a bike.

Isn’t that a parents job? Teaching your kid to ride a bike is probably one of the most joyous accomplishments in life. I miss those days.

I’m sympathetic about needing professionals for swim instruction but my god there is no need to pay anyone millions to reach kids how to ride a bike. It would be cheaper and more effective to just buy every kid whose family is below AMI a $300 bike. Call ‘em “Bowser bikes” and be done with it.

We don't know if it's "millions", it's just that one anonymous person who keeps insisting it is, without evidence. Also, why are you ok with swim instruction but not with bike instruction?

I flagged the posts with false accusations of fraud. suggest you do to.

First off, you’re either lying or dumb. No one is accusing fraud. People are accusing corruption.

Second, if you in the business of flagging posts that spread misinformation, I hope that you have flagged your own. Here is the actual contract.
https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/contracts/attachments/Q1c3NTQ3MsKmQmFzZSBQZXJpb2TCpnszRTM4NkU4Qy1BRDQ3LTQ1MUMtQTlBNC05Qzk0OEI3MEY3ODF9

The truth is that WABA has an annual budget of $2,000,000 and only $100,000 comes from donors. The rest comes directly from DC taxpayers. DC tax payers pay for their rent and facilities. WABA uses those facilities to lobby the DC government.

This would actually be illegal and your continually posting baseless lies don't make your side look good, because this provably false claim undermines any credibility you might have had with other claims.

Are they using a different physical office to execute their bike education contract than the one they are using for lobbying?

Have at it.
https://oig.dc.gov/oig-services/report-waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement/hotline-information

What’s the answer? Is it the same office or not?

Why are you wasting your time on DCUM when you have waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement you could be reporting to the hotline?

Since you are the one that is arguing and claiming that what I have said it untrue, that WABA using the same facilities paid by DC tax money for lobbying, the burden is on you to refute it. You refuse but claim it is untrue. Do they use different facilities or not?

Buddy, you are risking a defamation lawsuit. That’s not how it works when you make slanderous, unsupported factual claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

A quarter of kids in DC live in poverty. Can we cut out the WABA graft and just give the money to the kids?

That’s about 30,000 kids. The city could buy each of those kids a backpack and school supplies every year for what they give WABA.

FYI, most parents think the learn-to-ride program is great. I'm happy that DC spends money on recreation for kids. There's a lot in the mayor's proposed budget on that - a new afterschool program app, lots of pool maintenance, some funds for special needs swim lessons. Truly, find something else to fixate on.

Are they spending excessive amounts of money renting googles and fins to kids? If not, that has nothing to do with being fleeced by WABA.

Are you kidding? There is a well-known dearth of swimming instruction for kids in DC. If DC expanded access by contracting with an outside organization, that would be amazing. There is actually money in the Mayor’s budget proposal to increase swim lesson access. Qualified instructors are hard to find, so if the city can contract for a good source of instructors that would be amazing.

You know what would be really amazing? Swimming lessons AND bike-riding lessons! Everyone should know how to swim, and everyone should know how to ride a bike.

Isn’t that a parents job? Teaching your kid to ride a bike is probably one of the most joyous accomplishments in life. I miss those days.

I’m sympathetic about needing professionals for swim instruction but my god there is no need to pay anyone millions to reach kids how to ride a bike. It would be cheaper and more effective to just buy every kid whose family is below AMI a $300 bike. Call ‘em “Bowser bikes” and be done with it.

We don't know if it's "millions", it's just that one anonymous person who keeps insisting it is, without evidence. Also, why are you ok with swim instruction but not with bike instruction?

I flagged the posts with false accusations of fraud. suggest you do to.

First off, you’re either lying or dumb. No one is accusing fraud. People are accusing corruption.

Second, if you in the business of flagging posts that spread misinformation, I hope that you have flagged your own. Here is the actual contract.
https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/contracts/attachments/Q1c3NTQ3MsKmQmFzZSBQZXJpb2TCpnszRTM4NkU4Qy1BRDQ3LTQ1MUMtQTlBNC05Qzk0OEI3MEY3ODF9

The truth is that WABA has an annual budget of $2,000,000 and only $100,000 comes from donors. The rest comes directly from DC taxpayers. DC tax payers pay for their rent and facilities. WABA uses those facilities to lobby the DC government.

This would actually be illegal and your continually posting baseless lies don't make your side look good, because this provably false claim undermines any credibility you might have had with other claims.

Are they using a different physical office to execute their bike education contract than the one they are using for lobbying?

Have at it.
https://oig.dc.gov/oig-services/report-waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement/hotline-information

What’s the answer? Is it the same office or not?

Why are you wasting your time on DCUM when you have waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement you could be reporting to the hotline?

Since you are the one that is arguing and claiming that what I have said it untrue, that WABA using the same facilities paid by DC tax money for lobbying, the burden is on you to refute it. You refuse but claim it is untrue. Do they use different facilities or not?

Buddy, you are risking a defamation lawsuit. That’s not how it works when you make slanderous, unsupported factual claims.

Hahaha no they aren't!!! Where is the defamation? Where is the slander?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

A quarter of kids in DC live in poverty. Can we cut out the WABA graft and just give the money to the kids?

That’s about 30,000 kids. The city could buy each of those kids a backpack and school supplies every year for what they give WABA.

FYI, most parents think the learn-to-ride program is great. I'm happy that DC spends money on recreation for kids. There's a lot in the mayor's proposed budget on that - a new afterschool program app, lots of pool maintenance, some funds for special needs swim lessons. Truly, find something else to fixate on.

Are they spending excessive amounts of money renting googles and fins to kids? If not, that has nothing to do with being fleeced by WABA.

Are you kidding? There is a well-known dearth of swimming instruction for kids in DC. If DC expanded access by contracting with an outside organization, that would be amazing. There is actually money in the Mayor’s budget proposal to increase swim lesson access. Qualified instructors are hard to find, so if the city can contract for a good source of instructors that would be amazing.

You know what would be really amazing? Swimming lessons AND bike-riding lessons! Everyone should know how to swim, and everyone should know how to ride a bike.

Isn’t that a parents job? Teaching your kid to ride a bike is probably one of the most joyous accomplishments in life. I miss those days.

I’m sympathetic about needing professionals for swim instruction but my god there is no need to pay anyone millions to reach kids how to ride a bike. It would be cheaper and more effective to just buy every kid whose family is below AMI a $300 bike. Call ‘em “Bowser bikes” and be done with it.

We don't know if it's "millions", it's just that one anonymous person who keeps insisting it is, without evidence. Also, why are you ok with swim instruction but not with bike instruction?

I flagged the posts with false accusations of fraud. suggest you do to.

First off, you’re either lying or dumb. No one is accusing fraud. People are accusing corruption.

Second, if you in the business of flagging posts that spread misinformation, I hope that you have flagged your own. Here is the actual contract.
https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/contracts/attachments/Q1c3NTQ3MsKmQmFzZSBQZXJpb2TCpnszRTM4NkU4Qy1BRDQ3LTQ1MUMtQTlBNC05Qzk0OEI3MEY3ODF9

The truth is that WABA has an annual budget of $2,000,000 and only $100,000 comes from donors. The rest comes directly from DC taxpayers. DC tax payers pay for their rent and facilities. WABA uses those facilities to lobby the DC government.

This would actually be illegal and your continually posting baseless lies don't make your side look good, because this provably false claim undermines any credibility you might have had with other claims.

Are they using a different physical office to execute their bike education contract than the one they are using for lobbying?

Have at it.
https://oig.dc.gov/oig-services/report-waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement/hotline-information

What’s the answer? Is it the same office or not?

Why are you wasting your time on DCUM when you have waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement you could be reporting to the hotline?

Since you are the one that is arguing and claiming that what I have said it untrue, that WABA using the same facilities paid by DC tax money for lobbying, the burden is on you to refute it. You refuse but claim it is untrue. Do they use different facilities or not?

Buddy, you are risking a defamation lawsuit. That’s not how it works when you make slanderous, unsupported factual claims.

Hahaha no they aren't!!! Where is the defamation? Where is the slander?

The slander is claiming that WABA is corrupt, making specific allegations such as that they are violating conflict-of-interest and lobbying laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These cyclists are not just insufferable, but they're tattle tales too. What a group. When you have to work that hard to support your position, maybe it's time to recognize your position is the minority one.

Rich coming from the people who whine every day on the local neighborhood email groups.

Which the bike lobbyists quote from anonymously on twitter. They are scumbags. Not even any connection to their own neighborhoods. No concern at all that they are breaking down connections between neighbors. They don't care because they have no connection to anyone. They are out for themselves and themselves alone. True sociopaths. Is it all the protein powder? The spandex chemicals being absorbed through their testicles? Who knows, but something is wrong with them.

I have actually made a lot of connections in my neighborhood through both cycling and advocacy for the bike lanes. It is a great group of people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know people barely use all our bike lanes but if they build these, you will see upwards of 30 people using them every week

Impressive numbers. 30/week

FWIW, I drove on CT Ave yesterday from 7:30 to 7:45 AM to get from the circle to south of Woodley Park. In that little stretch of time, I saw easily more than 30 cyclists. So anecdotally, no your numbers are way off.

Bull$h!t. I drive that stretch 5 mornings a week at the same time and there are, at most, five cyclists heading south at that time. One is the 75 yr old white guy in neon green spandex (where is he going? my money is to his law firm, where he is no doubt partner emeritus). One is a 40-something white woman with strawberry blonde hair and a very flimsy bike helmet. She sits very upright in the saddle, often wears a dress. She appears to think she's riding to the Katama market in MV for a scone.

Yes, it's a certainty that you see every cyclist on the road for a 2-mile stretch during a 15-minute span while you're driving down the road at 30 to 40 mph, absolutely no possibility that any other driver could have seen more or different people on bikes than the two people you're describing here. Also, why do you care where these people are going? They're riding their bikes somewhere. Just like you're driving somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

A quarter of kids in DC live in poverty. Can we cut out the WABA graft and just give the money to the kids?

That’s about 30,000 kids. The city could buy each of those kids a backpack and school supplies every year for what they give WABA.

FYI, most parents think the learn-to-ride program is great. I'm happy that DC spends money on recreation for kids. There's a lot in the mayor's proposed budget on that - a new afterschool program app, lots of pool maintenance, some funds for special needs swim lessons. Truly, find something else to fixate on.

Are they spending excessive amounts of money renting googles and fins to kids? If not, that has nothing to do with being fleeced by WABA.

Are you kidding? There is a well-known dearth of swimming instruction for kids in DC. If DC expanded access by contracting with an outside organization, that would be amazing. There is actually money in the Mayor’s budget proposal to increase swim lesson access. Qualified instructors are hard to find, so if the city can contract for a good source of instructors that would be amazing.

You know what would be really amazing? Swimming lessons AND bike-riding lessons! Everyone should know how to swim, and everyone should know how to ride a bike.

Isn’t that a parents job? Teaching your kid to ride a bike is probably one of the most joyous accomplishments in life. I miss those days.

I’m sympathetic about needing professionals for swim instruction but my god there is no need to pay anyone millions to reach kids how to ride a bike. It would be cheaper and more effective to just buy every kid whose family is below AMI a $300 bike. Call ‘em “Bowser bikes” and be done with it.

We don't know if it's "millions", it's just that one anonymous person who keeps insisting it is, without evidence. Also, why are you ok with swim instruction but not with bike instruction?

I flagged the posts with false accusations of fraud. suggest you do to.

Lol, none of it was false. The numbers, taken from DC's procurement database, were all posted in the big thread months ago.

The sad part is that you likely know that.

When you kall the K Street transitway a "bike infrastructure project" and attribute its full budget to your numbers, that is a lie. Get it?

$57 million for the K Street ... bike lanes? Someone is obsessed, and it's not people who are advocating for safer, less car-prioritizing streets.

https://ddot.dc.gov/page/k-street-transitway

I don’t understand what the argument is about. Looks like a bike infrastructure project to me. If it is just about creating dedicated bus lanes, they could do that with just some red paint which would not cost $57 million.

They're completely rebuilding the street, putting pedestrian access and bus stops in the middle of the road and adding bus and bike lanes. If it was just about creating bike lanes, they could do THAT with some paint, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

A quarter of kids in DC live in poverty. Can we cut out the WABA graft and just give the money to the kids?

That’s about 30,000 kids. The city could buy each of those kids a backpack and school supplies every year for what they give WABA.

FYI, most parents think the learn-to-ride program is great. I'm happy that DC spends money on recreation for kids. There's a lot in the mayor's proposed budget on that - a new afterschool program app, lots of pool maintenance, some funds for special needs swim lessons. Truly, find something else to fixate on.

Are they spending excessive amounts of money renting googles and fins to kids? If not, that has nothing to do with being fleeced by WABA.

Are you kidding? There is a well-known dearth of swimming instruction for kids in DC. If DC expanded access by contracting with an outside organization, that would be amazing. There is actually money in the Mayor’s budget proposal to increase swim lesson access. Qualified instructors are hard to find, so if the city can contract for a good source of instructors that would be amazing.

You know what would be really amazing? Swimming lessons AND bike-riding lessons! Everyone should know how to swim, and everyone should know how to ride a bike.

Isn’t that a parents job? Teaching your kid to ride a bike is probably one of the most joyous accomplishments in life. I miss those days.

I’m sympathetic about needing professionals for swim instruction but my god there is no need to pay anyone millions to reach kids how to ride a bike. It would be cheaper and more effective to just buy every kid whose family is below AMI a $300 bike. Call ‘em “Bowser bikes” and be done with it.

We don't know if it's "millions", it's just that one anonymous person who keeps insisting it is, without evidence. Also, why are you ok with swim instruction but not with bike instruction?

I flagged the posts with false accusations of fraud. suggest you do to.

First off, you’re either lying or dumb. No one is accusing fraud. People are accusing corruption.

Second, if you in the business of flagging posts that spread misinformation, I hope that you have flagged your own. Here is the actual contract.
https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/contracts/attachments/Q1c3NTQ3MsKmQmFzZSBQZXJpb2TCpnszRTM4NkU4Qy1BRDQ3LTQ1MUMtQTlBNC05Qzk0OEI3MEY3ODF9

The truth is that WABA has an annual budget of $2,000,000 and only $100,000 comes from donors. The rest comes directly from DC taxpayers. DC tax payers pay for their rent and facilities. WABA uses those facilities to lobby the DC government.

This would actually be illegal and your continually posting baseless lies don't make your side look good, because this provably false claim undermines any credibility you might have had with other claims.

Are they using a different physical office to execute their bike education contract than the one they are using for lobbying?

Have at it.
https://oig.dc.gov/oig-services/report-waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement/hotline-information

What’s the answer? Is it the same office or not?

Why are you wasting your time on DCUM when you have waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement you could be reporting to the hotline?

Since you are the one that is arguing and claiming that what I have said it untrue, that WABA using the same facilities paid by DC tax money for lobbying, the burden is on you to refute it. You refuse but claim it is untrue. Do they use different facilities or not?

Buddy, you are risking a defamation lawsuit. That’s not how it works when you make slanderous, unsupported factual claims.

Hahaha no they aren't!!! Where is the defamation? Where is the slander?

The slander is claiming that WABA is corrupt, making specific allegations such as that they are violating conflict-of-interest and lobbying laws.

What a joke. WABA is not a person. Just answer PP's question, it wasn't difficult or complicated, and stop making hollow threats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

A quarter of kids in DC live in poverty. Can we cut out the WABA graft and just give the money to the kids?

That’s about 30,000 kids. The city could buy each of those kids a backpack and school supplies every year for what they give WABA.

FYI, most parents think the learn-to-ride program is great. I'm happy that DC spends money on recreation for kids. There's a lot in the mayor's proposed budget on that - a new afterschool program app, lots of pool maintenance, some funds for special needs swim lessons. Truly, find something else to fixate on.

Are they spending excessive amounts of money renting googles and fins to kids? If not, that has nothing to do with being fleeced by WABA.

Are you kidding? There is a well-known dearth of swimming instruction for kids in DC. If DC expanded access by contracting with an outside organization, that would be amazing. There is actually money in the Mayor’s budget proposal to increase swim lesson access. Qualified instructors are hard to find, so if the city can contract for a good source of instructors that would be amazing.

You know what would be really amazing? Swimming lessons AND bike-riding lessons! Everyone should know how to swim, and everyone should know how to ride a bike.

Isn’t that a parents job? Teaching your kid to ride a bike is probably one of the most joyous accomplishments in life. I miss those days.

I’m sympathetic about needing professionals for swim instruction but my god there is no need to pay anyone millions to reach kids how to ride a bike. It would be cheaper and more effective to just buy every kid whose family is below AMI a $300 bike. Call ‘em “Bowser bikes” and be done with it.

We don't know if it's "millions", it's just that one anonymous person who keeps insisting it is, without evidence. Also, why are you ok with swim instruction but not with bike instruction?

I flagged the posts with false accusations of fraud. suggest you do to.

First off, you’re either lying or dumb. No one is accusing fraud. People are accusing corruption.

Second, if you in the business of flagging posts that spread misinformation, I hope that you have flagged your own. Here is the actual contract.
https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/contracts/attachments/Q1c3NTQ3MsKmQmFzZSBQZXJpb2TCpnszRTM4NkU4Qy1BRDQ3LTQ1MUMtQTlBNC05Qzk0OEI3MEY3ODF9

The truth is that WABA has an annual budget of $2,000,000 and only $100,000 comes from donors. The rest comes directly from DC taxpayers. DC tax payers pay for their rent and facilities. WABA uses those facilities to lobby the DC government.

This would actually be illegal and your continually posting baseless lies don't make your side look good, because this provably false claim undermines any credibility you might have had with other claims.

Are they using a different physical office to execute their bike education contract than the one they are using for lobbying?

Have at it.
https://oig.dc.gov/oig-services/report-waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement/hotline-information

What’s the answer? Is it the same office or not?

Why are you wasting your time on DCUM when you have waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement you could be reporting to the hotline?

Since you are the one that is arguing and claiming that what I have said it untrue, that WABA using the same facilities paid by DC tax money for lobbying, the burden is on you to refute it. You refuse but claim it is untrue. Do they use different facilities or not?

Buddy, you are risking a defamation lawsuit. That’s not how it works when you make slanderous, unsupported factual claims.

Hahaha no they aren't!!! Where is the defamation? Where is the slander?

The slander is claiming that WABA is corrupt, making specific allegations such as that they are violating conflict-of-interest and lobbying laws.

What a joke. WABA is not a person. Just answer PP's question, it wasn't difficult or complicated, and stop making hollow threats.

answer what question? rebut their baseless accusations of fraud & ethics violations? PP needs to show actual evidence of those facts. Show the evidence then we can discuss.

PS businessess and nonprofits can sue for defamation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

Bike funding routinely exceeds $100 million annually. DC has had bike lanes for 15 years. Things aren’t cheap and the DC government is very generous when it spends other people’s money

show a link for this claim

Here's a sampling from the 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

Most of the Washington area bicycling associations annual budget comes from the city. DC pays the bike lobby to lobby the DC government. Surprisingly few real people actually give to waba

can we create a bingo card for this thread? “WABA is funded by DC and controls DDOT” will be a square.

Uh, well you can look at the budget and see for yourself

WABA gets about $100,000 annually in membership dues and almost $1 million from the government. I think that’s called astroturf

WABA has/had a contract with DC to teach 2nd graders how to ride bikes. How horrible! What monsters!!!

Oh you mean the program where WABA charges DC public schools $1,000 per child to rent one of their bikes? No, that’s not shady at all

A quarter of kids in DC live in poverty. Can we cut out the WABA graft and just give the money to the kids?

That’s about 30,000 kids. The city could buy each of those kids a backpack and school supplies every year for what they give WABA.

FYI, most parents think the learn-to-ride program is great. I'm happy that DC spends money on recreation for kids. There's a lot in the mayor's proposed budget on that - a new afterschool program app, lots of pool maintenance, some funds for special needs swim lessons. Truly, find something else to fixate on.

Are they spending excessive amounts of money renting googles and fins to kids? If not, that has nothing to do with being fleeced by WABA.

Are you kidding? There is a well-known dearth of swimming instruction for kids in DC. If DC expanded access by contracting with an outside organization, that would be amazing. There is actually money in the Mayor’s budget proposal to increase swim lesson access. Qualified instructors are hard to find, so if the city can contract for a good source of instructors that would be amazing.

You know what would be really amazing? Swimming lessons AND bike-riding lessons! Everyone should know how to swim, and everyone should know how to ride a bike.

Isn’t that a parents job? Teaching your kid to ride a bike is probably one of the most joyous accomplishments in life. I miss those days.

I’m sympathetic about needing professionals for swim instruction but my god there is no need to pay anyone millions to reach kids how to ride a bike. It would be cheaper and more effective to just buy every kid whose family is below AMI a $300 bike. Call ‘em “Bowser bikes” and be done with it.

We don't know if it's "millions", it's just that one anonymous person who keeps insisting it is, without evidence. Also, why are you ok with swim instruction but not with bike instruction?

I flagged the posts with false accusations of fraud. suggest you do to.

First off, you’re either lying or dumb. No one is accusing fraud. People are accusing corruption.

Second, if you in the business of flagging posts that spread misinformation, I hope that you have flagged your own. Here is the actual contract.
https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/contracts/attachments/Q1c3NTQ3MsKmQmFzZSBQZXJpb2TCpnszRTM4NkU4Qy1BRDQ3LTQ1MUMtQTlBNC05Qzk0OEI3MEY3ODF9

The truth is that WABA has an annual budget of $2,000,000 and only $100,000 comes from donors. The rest comes directly from DC taxpayers. DC tax payers pay for their rent and facilities. WABA uses those facilities to lobby the DC government.

This would actually be illegal and your continually posting baseless lies don't make your side look good, because this provably false claim undermines any credibility you might have had with other claims.

Are they using a different physical office to execute their bike education contract than the one they are using for lobbying?

Have at it.
https://oig.dc.gov/oig-services/report-waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement/hotline-information

What’s the answer? Is it the same office or not?

Why are you wasting your time on DCUM when you have waste-fraud-abuse-and-mismanagement you could be reporting to the hotline?

Since you are the one that is arguing and claiming that what I have said it untrue, that WABA using the same facilities paid by DC tax money for lobbying, the burden is on you to refute it. You refuse but claim it is untrue. Do they use different facilities or not?

Buddy, you are risking a defamation lawsuit. That’s not how it works when you make slanderous, unsupported factual claims.

Hahaha no they aren't!!! Where is the defamation? Where is the slander?

The slander is claiming that WABA is corrupt, making specific allegations such as that they are violating conflict-of-interest and lobbying laws.

What a joke. WABA is not a person. Just answer PP's question, it wasn't difficult or complicated, and stop making hollow threats.

If you think that WABA is violating conflict-of-interest or lobbying laws, why are you wasting your time on DCUM? Call the IG! Call the media! Hire a lawyer!