Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top
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Anonymous
Keep going and find out. |
Anonymous
And then after chastising them, sweetie, do you know what I did? I issued vague threats against them. |
Anonymous
You want to take away people’s kids bc their political views are different from yours? But the progressives are the ones we need to fear. |
Anonymous
Don’t bother. Just go straight to the well deserved mockery. |
Anonymous
No, I don’t want to take away people’s kids, and especially not because their political views are different. However, I do think that a parent who scoffs at the idea of giving due concern to the interests of kids needs to do some deep thinking about life, and how they are impacting their family. |
Anonymous
Ok fine. I think I’m a better parent than a closed minded bigot like you. |
Anonymous
+1 Many members of the intersex community have spoken about how they do not like how their struggles and issues have been both shoved aside and entirely distorted by current gender identity discussion. The PP needs to listen to intersex people and be respectful. |
Anonymous
I hope you know that with theses latest posts you have lost the support of the very few who were behind you. Mocking people when it comes to concern about their children is not a winning position ever. |
Anonymous
I admire what you said, though the bolded above is interesting to me as the Arab world has a long history of empire itself, some of which contributed greatly to the world as we know it, though problematic in implementation of course. Why do you equate Arab/staunch anti-imperialism as a given? I would say most folks these days are staunchly anti-imperialist as products of our time, not ethnicity per se. Just curious. |
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OP I’m back again. Can’t help it lol!
Well some good news, Hamline University walked back on their position: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/17/us/hamline-lawsuit-prophet-muhammad-religion.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare I think being criticized by Muslim professors, Muslim organizations etc was quite embarrassing lol. I do think the University’s apology is humorous - notice the passive voice. And if you reread the University’s President’s initial response she absolutely believed that the student’s feelings superseded academic freedom lol. Anyhow…. Also I thought this article in the Atlantic shows the danger of progressive “allies” speaking for us instead of allowing us to speak: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/hamline-university-minnesota-muhammad-academic-freedom/672742/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share |
Anonymous
Op here. Good question. But honestly too long of a discussion. Maybe some other time! But to summarize, I am specifically referring to the ongoing struggles of the Arab world against western colonialism and imperialism. As for empires in general my specific critique of western imperialism has a lot to do with conceptions of the nation state that western imperialism that brought and imposed on the rest of the world - specifically dividing ppl into different ethnicities etc. (this critique is multi layered though because some of this essentialism overlaps with certain conceptions of Arab nationalism). It is also related to critiques of modernity. That being said I agree with you - the history of empire is the history of the world and all empires have good and bad. Sorry I’m not being very eloquent. It is 11 pm after all. Perhaps I should look into this chat GPT hahaha. Also not sure what is wrong with the formatting of this oost . |
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| OP again. Oh weird after i clicked send it looked normal. As I was writing everything was right justified. Ignore the typos! Ok hopefully this is the last post I write! So long everyone! |
Anonymous
What’s the school where the Personal Identity Project is all of 2nd grade literature and social studies for the whole year? |
Anonymous
Keep politics out of schools. |
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OP here. Oops I’m back! Just read this article in the New Left Review. Helps explain the different I see in the Kendi/DeAngelo DEI types when they talk about let’s say “decolonization” and what decolonization traditionally meant. It’s basically an example of a leftist critique of “wokeness” and yes I realize it’s not the best term to use. I’m linking to the article here - ignore the specifics when it comes to Ukraine/Russia and focus on the general point of the article which can be applied to many contexts :
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii138/articles/volodymyr-ishchenko-ukrainian-voices Here are some specific parts that stood out to me: “When the biggest wave of decolonization in modern history took place after the Second World War, the focus was different. At that time, decolonization meant not just the overthrow of the European empires but also, crucially, building new developmentalist states in the ex-colonial countries, with a robust public sector and nationalized industries to replace the imbalances of the colonial economy through import-substitution programmes. The contradictions and failures of such strategies were explored in broadly Marxian terms in theories of under-development, debt-dependency and world-system analysis. Today, ‘decolonization’ is proposed for Ukraine and Russia in a context in which neoliberalism has taken the place of state-developmentalist policies and post-structuralist ‘postcolonial studies’ have displaced theories of neo-imperialist dependency. National liberation is no longer understood as intrinsically linked to social revolution, challenging the basis of capitalism and imperialism. Instead, it happens in the context of the ‘deficient revolutions’ of the Maidan type, which neither achieve the consolidation of liberal democracy nor eradicate corruption. If they succeed in overthrowing authoritarian regimes and ‘empowering’ the ngo representatives of civil society, they are also liable to weaken the public sector and increase crime rates, social inequality and ethnic tensions.footnote1” “It is not surprising, therefore, that talk of Ukraine’s ‘decolonization’ is so much about symbols and identity, and so little about social transformation.” “The oppressive situations faced by women, black people and others involve complex social relations, institutions and ideologies, reproduced within the warp and weft of capitalist relations. The black, gay and women’s liberation movements that arose in the 1960s and 70s fought to challenge the oppressive social order as a whole. While those oppressive relations persist, the question of universal emancipation has long since disappeared; instead, contemporary identity politics serve to amplify the particular voices that are deemed to require representation solely on the basis of their particularity. Instead of social redistribution, this politics calls primarily for recognition within the institutions which are not themselves put into question.footnote6 Moreover, because the groups that identity politics tends to essentialize are always internally diverse, it inevitably amplifies the more privileged voices who are legitimated to speak on behalf of the oppressed group that they may not really represent. In this way, it tends to reproduce and even legitimate fundamental social inequalities.” I hope this helps clarify my beliefs and the clear up confusion that some PPs have when they ask how I can be against racism, colonialism etc but also against this new progressive ideology. Again going back to the quote that I had from the article about China. I am not a fan of Huntington but the quote I put was spot on - except like I said that I don't care that much about culture but the continuous focus on specific identity categories undermines solidarity amongst different identity groups which is necessary if we want to effectuate change. Here is the quote again: "Progressive liberal ideology seeks to downplay cultural wholes. It envisions the world in universal, globalist terms, while reducing national societies to collections of atomized individuals. In its advanced form as identity politics, this version of liberalism views individuals as members of intersecting identity categories—categories that are not real communities and cultures, but rather demographic abstractions such as “Asian American” and “LGBTQIA+.” The word “community” may be added to such abstractions—as in “LGBTQIA+ community”—but it is empty, for none of the identity-politics categories are concrete communities with shared cultural lives. Indeed, the pseudo-solidarity of identity politics further atomizes the individual by undermining the legitimacy of inherited cultures. This outcome is not accidental. Progressive liberals seek to weaken the hold of larger cultural collectives by erasing them from their accounts of the social world, accounts they disseminate using their dominance in the West’s humanities and social science departments." |