interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

No, that’s an opinion. Go back to elementary school and learn the difference between opinion and fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

No, that’s an opinion. Go back to elementary school and learn the difference between opinion and fact.

It’s not even a widely shared opinion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:we moved to bethesda for the schools (in advance of kids). Then we had a kid and realized the decline and chose the private/independent route.

how did you "realize the decline?"

Not pp, but we also moved to Montgimery County for the schools. Our kids happened to be one before curriculum 2.0 (in college now) and one after (still in HS) and we could see the difference. We left kid #1 in public, and moved kid #2 to private, and although significantly poorer, we have been happy with the decision.

NP, we moved here slightly before the transition. Our kid was in middle school when it changed to 2.0. We did not really notice any difference.

I am not saying things have always been good. There are things that we believe the curriculum was not good enough, there are also things that we feel fine with. But those did not change much from 1.0 to 2.0.

Maybe it is not the curriculum but the teachers ...?

Like the previous PP I had children that spanned several decades in MCPS. The youngest was in elementary school during 2.0. We saw a huge decline especially with the math curriculum. I couldn’t believe that math facts, long multiplication, and long division had been dropped for “new math”. I bought math workbooks and began teaching my youngest basic math skills that were no longer in the curriculum. No surprise, he began out pacing his piers.

MCPS is in decline because of mismanagement by Central Office.

Outpacing is one word. “His piers?” Methinks you should dial down your bragging just a smidgen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/

MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?

So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.

LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.

What a complete idiot. If your kid is a bottom feeder, of course, there is no decline. Can't go any lower.

You wish. I agree with PP and my kids are all in GT except one, who is in the top reading and math groups in their on-level class.

Psst! Your insecurity is showing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how anyone could get a minimum of 50% for turning in zero HW.

Because it makes no sense. It's a ridiculous policy. But, anyone who is paying attention knows that MCPS loves to implement poorly thought out initiatives in the name of 'equity'.

You forgot to also say "woke".

dp.. yes, it is part of the "woke" culture, and it's stupid. It's not helping those students. Misguided progressive liberals.

Every time you say or type “woke,” you out yourself as an imbecile. Just FYI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/

MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?

So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.

LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.

It's not demographics. Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline.

my kindergartener and 1st grader have homework (I don't agree with HW at this age) as do older kids we are friends with at a few different schools. This no HW thing is a myth

My 4th grader has "optional" homework, which is the same as no homework, because homework that isn't checked or evaluated or required isn't getting done.

My high schoolers do get homework though. Although not nearly as much as I used to get when I was their age...

Have you tried parenting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/

MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?

So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.

LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.

It's not demographics. Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline.

my kindergartener and 1st grader have homework (I don't agree with HW at this age) as do older kids we are friends with at a few different schools. This no HW thing is a myth

My 4th grader has "optional" homework, which is the same as no homework, because homework that isn't checked or evaluated or required isn't getting done.

My high schoolers do get homework though. Although not nearly as much as I used to get when I was their age...

Have you tried parenting?

The poster clearly sees a problem with the MCPS No Homework in elementary school as a problem. This started about 13 years ago in MCPS and was the dumb idea of Central Office administrators. Parents have an uphill battle when teachers give a mixed message that homework is optional. But sure - blame parents if their children don’t do homework that the teacher doesn’t grade, review mistakes, or hold them accountable for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/

MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?

So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.

LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.

It's not demographics. Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline.

my kindergartener and 1st grader have homework (I don't agree with HW at this age) as do older kids we are friends with at a few different schools. This no HW thing is a myth

My 4th grader has "optional" homework, which is the same as no homework, because homework that isn't checked or evaluated or required isn't getting done.

My high schoolers do get homework though. Although not nearly as much as I used to get when I was their age...

So why don’t you have your 4th grader do the work? MoCo parents are such a trip…. Whine about not enough work… whine about too much work…. Whine about not enough punishments… complain there are none….never ends.

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This is actually what's wrong with MCPS: the parents

Didn't Freud tell us everyone's problems are caused by their parents?

[Anonymous]

just send your kids to private - mcps will continue to get worse. ever seen the movie idiocracy? that is where we are heading

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:just send your kids to private - mcps will continue to get worse. ever seen the movie idiocracy? that is where we are heading

ugh more private recruiting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how anyone could get a minimum of 50% for turning in zero HW.

Because it makes no sense. It's a ridiculous policy. But, anyone who is paying attention knows that MCPS loves to implement poorly thought out initiatives in the name of 'equity'.

You forgot to also say "woke".

dp.. yes, it is part of the "woke" culture, and it's stupid. It's not helping those students. Misguided progressive liberals.

Every time you say or type “woke,” you out yourself as an imbecile. Just FYI.

The achievement gap is getting wider, violence in schools are increasing, teachers are tired, overworked and want to quite, but MCPS is more concerned with "woke" agenda and gender labels (because some people don't want to be labeled so let's label them something else), but sure, I'm the imbecile.

And I also noticed you sidestep the big issues, and just focus on calling someone an imbecile for using a label that you don't like. Typical "woke" idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how anyone could get a minimum of 50% for turning in zero HW.

Because it makes no sense. It's a ridiculous policy. But, anyone who is paying attention knows that MCPS loves to implement poorly thought out initiatives in the name of 'equity'.

You forgot to also say "woke".

dp.. yes, it is part of the "woke" culture, and it's stupid. It's not helping those students. Misguided progressive liberals.

Every time you say or type “woke,” you out yourself as an imbecile. Just FYI.

The achievement gap is getting wider, violence in schools are increasing, teachers are tired, overworked and want to quite, but MCPS is more concerned with "woke" agenda and gender labels (because some people don't want to be labeled so let's label them something else), but sure, I'm the imbecile.

And I also noticed you sidestep the big issues, and just focus on calling someone an imbecile for using a label that you don't like. Typical "woke" idiot.

#fakenews

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/

MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?

So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.

LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.

It's not demographics. Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline.

I think it is both. Changing demographics, increased identification of special needs, and unfunded federal mandates that trickled down to individual school budgets created a trifecta of pain for MCPS that has led to decreased enrichment opportunities (tighter sports budgets, fewer field trips, fewer learning materials--like for science labs just to note a few).

Exactly, at our school if you aren't special needs or ESOL good luck getting any attention.

Pretty sure you don't have a special ed child. Special Ed is a disaster, even discrete classrooms are overcrowded and don't have qualified teachers (long term subs in place since the start of the school year count as a warm body, and count towards the superintendent saying "we are 99% staffed," but not as qualified). I promise you, as the exhausted parent of 2 special ed children, they are not getting any attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

No, that’s an opinion. Go back to elementary school and learn the difference between opinion and fact.

It's a fact that's proven in any STEM competition and every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/

MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?

So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.

LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.

It's not demographics. Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline

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I think it is both. Changing demographics, increased identification of special needs, and unfunded federal mandates that trickled down to individual school budgets created a trifecta of pain for MCPS that has led to decreased enrichment opportunities (tighter sports budgets, fewer field trips, fewer learning materials--like for science labs just to note a few).

Exactly, at our school if you aren't special needs or ESOL good luck getting any attention.

Pretty sure you don't have a special ed child. Special Ed is a disaster, even discrete classrooms are overcrowded and don't have qualified teachers (long term subs in place since the start of the school year count as a warm body, and count towards the superintendent saying "we are 99% staffed," but not as qualified). I promise you, as the exhausted parent of 2 special ed children, they are not getting any attention.

My kid got zero attention or support despite an iep. It wasn’t with the paper it was written on. The excuse was they had kids with more needs. We paid a fortune privately for therapies.