If you are someone who "warns" people of the dangers of COVID on social media

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are vultures who have made watching and waiting for people to get CoVID and suffer and hopefully develop long CoVID their entire personality. If we won’t all stay in our houses forever like they want us to then they’re going to wish CoVID on us in the form of “warning” us about it so they can say they told you so when someone gets sick. It’s pathological at this point. That virus has been here for 3 years. Learn to cope.

This so describes the one person I know in real life who remains shuttered in her house and has been homeschooling her kids and keeping them almost completely isolated since 2020. She is on Twitter wondering when everyone is going to realize that she’s right and they’re wrong, and it often sounds like she’s wishing mass suffering upon everyone else just to come out a winner. She’s lost all of her friends in real life, many of her family members won’t talk to her anymore, but she’s found this community on Twitter—many of whom might not even be real people—stoking her anxiety and paranoia. So sad for her kids.

That's an extreme case if true. In reality, most of us masking are not shuttered in our houses, and while we do fear real damage is being done by the disease, we aren't wishing for mass suffering (and I doubt she is either). Quite the opposite, as I hope we continue to explore new ways to protect the population instead of just pretending like it doesn't matter anymore. I want CO2 monitors like Belgium, Hepa filters in schools, a mass campaign for clean air indoors and next gen vaccines. I don't feel it's my job to warn anyone.

Good, then you are not in the group that PP is describing. They are referring to the people on social media who post constantly about how people who aren't taking the precautions they are will get COVID repeatedly and get long COVID/die and then they'll "see". They think they are coming across as righteous and smart when in fact it just sounds like they want other people to get sick to justify their own choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are vultures who have made watching and waiting for people to get CoVID and suffer and hopefully develop long CoVID their entire personality. If we won’t all stay in our houses forever like they want us to then they’re going to wish CoVID on us in the form of “warning” us about it so they can say they told you so when someone gets sick. It’s pathological at this point. That virus has been here for 3 years. Learn to cope.

This so describes the one person I know in real life who remains shuttered in her house and has been homeschooling her kids and keeping them almost completely isolated since 2020. She is on Twitter wondering when everyone is going to realize that she’s right and they’re wrong, and it often sounds like she’s wishing mass suffering upon everyone else just to come out a winner. She’s lost all of her friends in real life, many of her family members won’t talk to her anymore, but she’s found this community on Twitter—many of whom might not even be real people—stoking her anxiety and paranoia. So sad for her kids.

That's an extreme case if true. In reality, most of us masking are not shuttered in our houses, and while we do fear real damage is being done by the disease, we aren't wishing for mass suffering (and I doubt she is either). Quite the opposite, as I hope we continue to explore new ways to protect the population instead of just pretending like it doesn't matter anymore. I want CO2 monitors like Belgium, Hepa filters in schools, a mass campaign for clean air indoors and next gen vaccines. I don't feel it's my job to warn anyone.

Good, then you are not in the group that PP is describing. They are referring to the people on social media who post constantly about how people who aren't taking the precautions they are will get COVID repeatedly and get long COVID/die and then they'll "see". They think they are coming across as righteous and smart when in fact it just sounds like they want other people to get sick to justify their own choices.

Sounds like you have a problem with the situation and not them. They aren't wanting others to get sick as if others get sick, they will catch it from them. Precautions are common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are vultures who have made watching and waiting for people to get CoVID and suffer and hopefully develop long CoVID their entire personality. If we won’t all stay in our houses forever like they want us to then they’re going to wish CoVID on us in the form of “warning” us about it so they can say they told you so when someone gets sick. It’s pathological at this point. That virus has been here for 3 years. Learn to cope.

This so describes the one person I know in real life who remains shuttered in her house and has been homeschooling her kids and keeping them almost completely isolated since 2020. She is on Twitter wondering when everyone is going to realize that she’s right and they’re wrong, and it often sounds like she’s wishing mass suffering upon everyone else just to come out a winner. She’s lost all of her friends in real life, many of her family members won’t talk to her anymore, but she’s found this community on Twitter—many of whom might not even be real people—stoking her anxiety and paranoia. So sad for her kids.

I think it's sad how nasty and hostile you are and your lack of concern or understanding speaks volumes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are vultures who have made watching and waiting for people to get CoVID and suffer and hopefully develop long CoVID their entire personality. If we won’t all stay in our houses forever like they want us to then they’re going to wish CoVID on us in the form of “warning” us about it so they can say they told you so when someone gets sick. It’s pathological at this point. That virus has been here for 3 years. Learn to cope.

This so describes the one person I know in real life who remains shuttered in her house and has been homeschooling her kids and keeping them almost completely isolated since 2020. She is on Twitter wondering when everyone is going to realize that she’s right and they’re wrong, and it often sounds like she’s wishing mass suffering upon everyone else just to come out a winner. She’s lost all of her friends in real life, many of her family members won’t talk to her anymore, but she’s found this community on Twitter—many of whom might not even be real people—stoking her anxiety and paranoia. So sad for her kids.

That's an extreme case if true. In reality, most of us masking are not shuttered in our houses, and while we do fear real damage is being done by the disease, we aren't wishing for mass suffering (and I doubt she is either). Quite the opposite, as I hope we continue to explore new ways to protect the population instead of just pretending like it doesn't matter anymore. I want CO2 monitors like Belgium, Hepa filters in schools, a mass campaign for clean air indoors and next gen vaccines. I don't feel it's my job to warn anyone.

Good, then you are not in the group that PP is describing. They are referring to the people on social media who post constantly about how people who aren't taking the precautions they are will get COVID repeatedly and get long COVID/die and then they'll "see". They think they are coming across as righteous and smart when in fact it just sounds like they want other people to get sick to justify their own choices.

Sounds like you have a problem with the situation and not them. They aren't wanting others to get sick as if others get sick, they will catch it from them. Precautions are common sense.

If that was what they were worried about they could say that. Instead they say people who don't behave like they do WILL get sick repeatedly and get long COVID and then they will SEE. They obviously want other to people to SEE and according to them in order for that to happen they need to become disabled and/or die.

If you're worried about high levels of COVID transmission putting you at risk then you can say that. You don't need to screech about how often other people will get sick and how awful it will be for them. Mostly because most people who get COVID are fine, if they have long COVID it's usually mild and goes away after several months. That doesn't mean long COVID can't be disabling or last for a year or more (I know that it can) or that it's not an important issue that we need to address as a society. Even if a small percentage of people are disabled, that's bad and worthy of significant societal investment. Just don't say things that are very clearly false. Nobody will listen to you.

[Anonymous]

There is someone in my life for whom Covid caution has become a mental health issue. She has crossed into a space where it is clear that she needs intervention but her spouse seems unwilling to do anything other than enable it. So when I see her on social media doing the kinds of things you describe, I recognize what I'm really looking at and I try to be empathetic. I don't think she's alone in this, I think there are a lot of people who are in the same place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

Wow. You're talking to someone dealing with death on the front lines and you're offended by "the implication[s]" of their post that "you think I am a terrible person" -- which they never said, it's just you're own guilt talking I guess. I think you should try to do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

Wow. You're talking to someone dealing with death on the front lines and you're offended by "the implication[s]" of their post that "you think I am a terrible person" -- which they never said, it's just you're own guilt talking I guess. I think you should try to do better.

The PP literally said "people like you" (referring to me) are responsible for the hospital surge. The PP knows nothing about me or my family. That type if discourse is not true or helpful. It's abusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

Wow. You're talking to someone dealing with death on the front lines and you're offended by "the implication[s]" of their post that "you think I am a terrible person" -- which they never said, it's just you're own guilt talking I guess. I think you should try to do better.

The PP literally said "people like you" (referring to me) are responsible for the hospital surge. The PP knows nothing about me or my family. That type if discourse is not true or helpful. It's abusive.

NP - I'm just really impressed by your ability, OP, to take a post where a health care worker talks about how difficult they've had it over the past 3 years and make it All About You.

OP is the true martyr here, everyone!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are vultures who have made watching and waiting for people to get CoVID and suffer and hopefully develop long CoVID their entire personality. If we won’t all stay in our houses forever like they want us to then they’re going to wish CoVID on us in the form of “warning” us about it so they can say they told you so when someone gets sick. It’s pathological at this point. That virus has been here for 3 years. Learn to cope.

This so describes the one person I know in real life who remains shuttered in her house and has been homeschooling her kids and keeping them almost completely isolated since 2020. She is on Twitter wondering when everyone is going to realize that she’s right and they’re wrong, and it often sounds like she’s wishing mass suffering upon everyone else just to come out a winner. She’s lost all of her friends in real life, many of her family members won’t talk to her anymore, but she’s found this community on Twitter—many of whom might not even be real people—stoking her anxiety and paranoia. So sad for her kids.

I think it's sad how nasty and hostile you are and your lack of concern or understanding speaks volumes.

I am quite concerned for the long-term mental health repercussions for her kids, but I’m guessing that’s not the type of concern you think I should have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

Wow. You're talking to someone dealing with death on the front lines and you're offended by "the implication[s]" of their post that "you think I am a terrible person" -- which they never said, it's just you're own guilt talking I guess. I think you should try to do better.

The PP literally said "people like you" (referring to me) are responsible for the hospital surge. The PP knows nothing about me or my family. That type if discourse is not true or helpful. It's abusive.

NP - I'm just really impressed by your ability, OP, to take a post where a health care worker talks about how difficult they've had it over the past 3 years and make it All About You.

OP is the true martyr here, everyone!

Who do you think the PP was referring to with this quote? "I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID"

Do you think that is helpful? Do you think it will change anyone's mind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is someone in my life for whom Covid caution has become a mental health issue. She has crossed into a space where it is clear that she needs intervention but her spouse seems unwilling to do anything other than enable it. So when I see her on social media doing the kinds of things you describe, I recognize what I'm really looking at and I try to be empathetic. I don't think she's alone in this, I think there are a lot of people who are in the same place.

Yep. The one remaining extremist I know has long struggled with severe anxiety and I honestly don’t think she’ll ever snap out of this.

[Anonymous]

I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

COVID can do that, but no serious immunologist (that doesn't include AJ Leonardi who despite being so supposedly prescient, is still not employed as an immunologist) thinks that it damages everyone's B & T cells. You can "warn" everyone all you want, you'll just look silly because the rest of us live in the real world where most people who get COVID recover just fine. That doesn't mean some people don't - I hope we can find therapies to treat long COVID, and am grateful for the efforts of real immunologists like Akiko Iwasaki - it just means I don't buy into theories that are clearly false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

Wow. You're talking to someone dealing with death on the front lines and you're offended by "the implication[s]" of their post that "you think I am a terrible person" -- which they never said, it's just you're own guilt talking I guess. I think you should try to do better.

The PP literally said "people like you" (referring to me) are responsible for the hospital surge. The PP knows nothing about me or my family. That type if discourse is not true or helpful. It's abusive.

NP - I'm just really impressed by your ability, OP, to take a post where a health care worker talks about how difficult they've had it over the past 3 years and make it All About You.

OP is the true martyr here, everyone!

Who do you think the PP was referring to with this quote? "I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID"

Do you think that is helpful? Do you think it will change anyone's mind?

Hey OP -- your post put "warns" re the dangers of covid in quotes.

Do you not think that covid is dangerous?

Then you get offended when a health care worker answers your question precisely as asked and tells you just what they want you to do. Of course, you don't want to do it, so you get offended more.

I think you should do some self-reflection. jmho

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

Wow. You're talking to someone dealing with death on the front lines and you're offended by "the implication[s]" of their post that "you think I am a terrible person" -- which they never said, it's just you're own guilt talking I guess. I think you should try to do better.

The PP literally said "people like you" (referring to me) are responsible for the hospital surge. The PP knows nothing about me or my family. That type if discourse is not true or helpful. It's abusive.

Your scare quotes around "warn" were totally warranted and normal, but the health care talking about people who aren't taking covid seriously causing the surge they are seeing firsthand is "abusive" lol okay.