Power Outage Montogomery County

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just do 2 hours late? Power has been restored, so just have the staff check that is school is functional.
I can't take off work today and have 2 elementary school kids.

Because you have no idea what you are talking about.

The power tower that he crashed into was a point in the power grid for the eastern seaboard including the northeast and the midatlantic. They diverted power from the tower to other towers. It took several hours to ground the tower and surrounding area to ensure that power was dispersed before they could begin rescue. The rescue was performed, but they still have to disentangle the plane from the cables, then the power company will be repairing the tower. Once done, they will have a likely additional power outage to restore the tower into the grid. The current grid diverted around this tower is not long-term sustainable.

When they cut power to restore the grid, it is unknown how long that outage will be. It is also unknown when it will happen, but likely sometime today. The uncertainty of if/when power will go out again and for how long means that the schools cannot plan around such a potential outage. They don't want to have kids in school when there is no power or HVAC. They don't want to have kids in school when phone lines may go down and they can't call for emergency or for parents to come and pick up their children. They don't want kids in school when they may not have power to provide meals for the children (or that food taken out and partially cooked is ruined and has to be discarded. They don't want kids on school buses when whole areas may lose power and traffic lights.

I'm sorry you're so inconvenienced, but the safety of your children is far more important than any work you have. And the schools cannot guarantee children's safety in large numbers with the number of unknowns about the power restoration process.

But by this logic, shouldn't other services be shut down too? So people don't get stranded in elevators, etc. in case the power goes out again? It seems like there should be a targeted shutdown of schools and businesses in the affected area, but let them open in areas that were unaffected.

I mean, whatever, it's one day, but when central office decided to give themselves a vacation too this has a ripple effect on daycares, etc. that follow the MCPS admin office closures.

Your argument makes no sense. No it is not comparable to adults in an elevator that can just take the stairs....

Public buildings need to be accessible to people with disabilities, so you cannot assume that all adults can "just take the stairs."


I don't really care about MoCo schools though.

Every single MCPS school has children with disabilities who use the elevators.

Yep, and MCPS closed. Other public buildings will need to sort out what they should do according to whatever their rules are/accessibility needs are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just do 2 hours late? Power has been restored, so just have the staff check that is school is functional.
I can't take off work today and have 2 elementary school kids.

Because you have no idea what you are talking about.

The power tower that he crashed into was a point in the power grid for the eastern seaboard including the northeast and the midatlantic. They diverted power from the tower to other towers. It took several hours to ground the tower and surrounding area to ensure that power was dispersed before they could begin rescue. The rescue was performed, but they still have to disentangle the plane from the cables, then the power company will be repairing the tower. Once done, they will have a likely additional power outage to restore the tower into the grid. The current grid diverted around this tower is not long-term sustainable.

When they cut power to restore the grid, it is unknown how long that outage will be. It is also unknown when it will happen, but likely sometime today. The uncertainty of if/when power will go out again and for how long means that the schools cannot plan around such a potential outage. They don't want to have kids in school when there is no power or HVAC. They don't want to have kids in school when phone lines may go down and they can't call for emergency or for parents to come and pick up their children. They don't want kids in school when they may not have power to provide meals for the children (or that food taken out and partially cooked is ruined and has to be discarded. They don't want kids on school buses when whole areas may lose power and traffic lights.

I'm sorry you're so inconvenienced, but the safety of your children is far more important than any work you have. And the schools cannot guarantee children's safety in large numbers with the number of unknowns about the power restoration process.

But by this logic, shouldn't other services be shut down too? So people don't get stranded in elevators, etc. in case the power goes out again? It seems like there should be a targeted shutdown of schools and businesses in the affected area, but let them open in areas that were unaffected.

I mean, whatever, it's one day, but when central office decided to give themselves a vacation too this has a ripple effect on daycares, etc. that follow the MCPS admin office closures.

Your argument makes no sense. No it is not comparable to adults in an elevator that can just take the stairs....

Do you not realize that there are disabled adults also??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just do 2 hours late? Power has been restored, so just have the staff check that is school is functional.
I can't take off work today and have 2 elementary school kids.

Because you have no idea what you are talking about.

The power tower that he crashed into was a point in the power grid for the eastern seaboard including the northeast and the midatlantic. They diverted power from the tower to other towers. It took several hours to ground the tower and surrounding area to ensure that power was dispersed before they could begin rescue. The rescue was performed, but they still have to disentangle the plane from the cables, then the power company will be repairing the tower. Once done, they will have a likely additional power outage to restore the tower into the grid. The current grid diverted around this tower is not long-term sustainable.

When they cut power to restore the grid, it is unknown how long that outage will be. It is also unknown when it will happen, but likely sometime today. The uncertainty of if/when power will go out again and for how long means that the schools cannot plan around such a potential outage. They don't want to have kids in school when there is no power or HVAC. They don't want to have kids in school when phone lines may go down and they can't call for emergency or for parents to come and pick up their children. They don't want kids in school when they may not have power to provide meals for the children (or that food taken out and partially cooked is ruined and has to be discarded. They don't want kids on school buses when whole areas may lose power and traffic lights.

I'm sorry you're so inconvenienced, but the safety of your children is far more important than any work you have. And the schools cannot guarantee children's safety in large numbers with the number of unknowns about the power restoration process.

But by this logic, shouldn't other services be shut down too? So people don't get stranded in elevators, etc. in case the power goes out again? It seems like there should be a targeted shutdown of schools and businesses in the affected area, but let them open in areas that were unaffected.

I mean, whatever, it's one day, but when central office decided to give themselves a vacation too this has a ripple effect on daycares, etc. that follow the MCPS admin office closures.

Your argument makes no sense. No it is not comparable to adults in an elevator that can just take the stairs....

Do you not realize that there are disabled adults also??

Ugh. Did you read the PPs at all?

[Anonymous]

I’m amazed emergency crews were able to get the plane secured and on the ground so quickly. I thought we’d wake up and it would still be 100ft up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed emergency crews were able to get the plane secured and on the ground so quickly. I thought we’d wake up and it would still be 100ft up.

Me, too!

[Anonymous]

I hope this dude decides to stick to the Amtrak henceforth.

[Anonymous]

How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

Approx. 2 miles.

I'm sure a bit less as the crow flies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

Except for the elite.

Oh wait, the pilot was elite. A rich DC lawyer.


Never mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

The approach to land/take-off at the MoCo airpark goes directly over these power lines. Look at Google Maps, you'll see that

This airpark either needs a control tower or will need to close. Too many homes and critical infrastructure surround the air park.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

The approach to land/take-off at the MoCo airpark goes directly over these power lines. Look at Google Maps, you'll see that

This airpark either needs a control tower or will need to close. Too many homes and critical infrastructure surround the air park.

None of which was there when the Airpark was built 60+ years ago.

At what point do you place any blame on the county zoning commission, developers, or homeowners, for choosing to zone/build/live in the flight path of an airport?

Oh, never?

Ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

The airpark should be closed permanently.

A couple we know recently decided to buy a home near the airpark. They agree it needs to be shut down permanently, because of the airplane noise .

If I owned an airport that was there long before someone put in a neighborhood next door, then forced me to close because of noise, I’d replace it with a combination waste-transfer facility/pig farm/drag racing strip.

[Anonymous]

I just read that NBC News is reporting he wasn’t using instruments. He was using his eyes.

At night when it was foghy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read that NBC News is reporting he wasn’t using instruments. He was using his eyes.

At night when it was foghy

Marginal conditions can change from VFR to IFR in a hurry. VFR approach to MoCo is pretty easy at night in the clear. I’ve heard they were traveling with another aircraft that diverted to Frederick because that other pilot didn’t think MoCo was within the margins. That was a smart call.

Classic case of get-there-itis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read that NBC News is reporting he wasn’t using instruments. He was using his eyes.

At night when it was foghy

They reported exactly the opposite. He was using the instruments instead of his eyes.

“The pilot appeared to be relying on the plane’s instruments as opposed to visual cues…”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna58895