Why are Northern Kids Flocking to Southern Universities?

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years, especially wrt female staff at schools in these states, when the person has other choices.

You can tell me they are diverse states and schools all you want - doesn't change state laws that put people's lives in danger.

Truly. No one cares about this issue.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years, especially wrt female staff at schools in these states, when the person has other choices.

You can tell me they are diverse states and schools all you want - doesn't change state laws that put people's lives in danger.

Truly. No one cares about this issue.

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In the SEC, "it just means more!"

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years, especially wrt female staff at schools in these states, when the person has other choices.

You can tell me they are diverse states and schools all you want - doesn't change state laws that put people's lives in danger.

I think you under estimate how many women are either pro-life or apathetic until it's their abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years, especially wrt female staff at schools in these states, when the person has other choices.

You can tell me they are diverse states and schools all you want - doesn't change state laws that put people's lives in danger.

x1 million

My DD already crossed off red states because she values women’s rights.

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Anonymous wrote:I think only white kids go south. We are Asian and would not consider a Southern school, besides UVa.

You don't speak for Asians.
Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Rice are plenty popular.

This is ridiculous. Have you been to Texas? 20% of UT student body is Asian with same at Univ of Houston. 40% at Rice and nearly 10% at the remaining TX schools. And all Texas schools have greater Hispanic populations than the entirety of the NE. As a Hispanic myself, I'd much rather be in school in Texas than anywhere on the E coast. Y'all just need to get out more.

+1 I think a lot of these posters have never been out of New England and have attended schools and lived in states with no fewer than 88% whites. They've lived their lives in a rarefied bubble. Their private high schools may be "diverse," but only if those "diverse" families have money.

100%. I'm from Texas and I was actually blown away by the lack of diversity on the E coast when I moved here. It is WHITE. I'm not really too bothered by that but there is some gall from the NE crowd to call the South "white". Texas is a minority majority state so y'all can just sit down with all that. We don't need to seek out diverse schools for our kids. The entire state is diverse. It's not some to-do list that we have for our kids. It never occurred to me that I'd need to find other Hispanic kids in schools. We are EVERYWHERE.

But ok, NE. Enjoy the bubble.

PP here. Exactly! Thank you.

+2 This weird narcissistic view that the South is just filled with a bunch of "stupid white boys" which has been uttered multiple times in this thread is completely ridiculous. Just reinforces my negative view of the NOVA and higher crowd that frequent this board. Completely out of touch narcissists that have no clue on how the rest of the country lives their lives.

Ha! Let them keep thinking that so their kids don't take the merit $.

Most of us don't need it. We know how to provide for our children.

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Mediocre students and/or families with limited financial resources (not broke but still part of the poors).

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Anonymous wrote:I think only white kids go south. We are Asian and would not consider a Southern school, besides UVa.

You don't speak for Asians.
Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Rice are plenty popular.

This is ridiculous. Have you been to Texas? 20% of UT student body is Asian with same at Univ of Houston. 40% at Rice and nearly 10% at the remaining TX schools. And all Texas schools have greater Hispanic populations than the entirety of the NE. As a Hispanic myself, I'd much rather be in school in Texas than anywhere on the E coast. Y'all just need to get out more.

+1 I think a lot of these posters have never been out of New England and have attended schools and lived in states with no fewer than 88% whites. They've lived their lives in a rarefied bubble. Their private high schools may be "diverse," but only if those "diverse" families have money.

100%. I'm from Texas and I was actually blown away by the lack of diversity on the E coast when I moved here. It is WHITE. I'm not really too bothered by that but there is some gall from the NE crowd to call the South "white". Texas is a minority majority state so y'all can just sit down with all that. We don't need to seek out diverse schools for our kids. The entire state is diverse. It's not some to-do list that we have for our kids. It never occurred to me that I'd need to find other Hispanic kids in schools. We are EVERYWHERE.

But ok, NE. Enjoy the bubble.

PP here. Exactly! Thank you.

+2 This weird narcissistic view that the South is just filled with a bunch of "stupid white boys" which has been uttered multiple times in this thread is completely ridiculous. Just reinforces my negative view of the NOVA and higher crowd that frequent this board. Completely out of touch narcissists that have no clue on how the rest of the country lives their lives.

so you hate stereotypes so much that you respond by stereotyping yourself.

NP. Idk. The people denigrating the southern schools in this thread demonstrably do not know what they are talking about. The Southern schools are objectively more diverse than the northeastern schools DCUM idolizes, and the posters pushing the “stupid white boy” narrative do seem wildly ignorant.

well, Alabama undergrad is 77% white, Auburn's freshman class was 84% white, Ole Miss is 77% white, Clemson is 80%, South Carolina is 77%, and these are the schools enticing kids with their merit aid for 3.5 GPAs and 32 ACT scores. So 'white' seems pretty apt.

Undergrad, per NCES:

U Alabama 11% black, 5% Hispanic
Auburn 5% black, 4% Hispanic
Ole Miss 12% black, 4% Hispanic
Clemson 6% black, 7% Hispanic
UofSC 9% black, 5% Hispanic

Which schools did you want to compare these numbers with? A sampling:

Vandy 11% black, 11% Hispanic
UVA 7% black, 7% Hispanic
Duke 8% black, 10% Hispanic
Harvard 8% black, 11% Hispanic
Yale 8% black, 15% Hispanic
Georgetown 6% black, 8% Hispanic
BU 4% black, 10% Hispanic
Northeastern 6% black, 11% Hispanic
UC Berkeley 2% black, 20% Hispanic

UVA, Duke, and Vanderbilt are southern. So…

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years, especially wrt female staff at schools in these states, when the person has other choices.

You can tell me they are diverse states and schools all you want - doesn't change state laws that put people's lives in danger.

I think you under estimate how many women are either pro-life or apathetic until it's their abortion.

Or women with the means to get themselves to another state should they need one. Good jobs in academia are hard enough to come by. Female faculty would be fools to limit their options geographically.

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Anonymous wrote:I think only white kids go south. We are Asian and would not consider a Southern school, besides UVa.

You don't speak for Asians.
Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Rice are plenty popular.

This is ridiculous. Have you been to Texas? 20% of UT student body is Asian with same at Univ of Houston. 40% at Rice and nearly 10% at the remaining TX schools. And all Texas schools have greater Hispanic populations than the entirety of the NE. As a Hispanic myself, I'd much rather be in school in Texas than anywhere on the E coast. Y'all just need to get out more.

+1 I think a lot of these posters have never been out of New England and have attended schools and lived in states with no fewer than 88% whites. They've lived their lives in a rarefied bubble. Their private high schools may be "diverse," but only if those "diverse" families have money.

100%. I'm from Texas and I was actually blown away by the lack of diversity on the E coast when I moved here. It is WHITE. I'm not really too bothered by that but there is some gall from the NE crowd to call the South "white". Texas is a minority majority state so y'all can just sit down with all that. We don't need to seek out diverse schools for our kids. The entire state is diverse. It's not some to-do list that we have for our kids. It never occurred to me that I'd need to find other Hispanic kids in schools. We are EVERYWHERE.

But ok, NE. Enjoy the bubble.

PP here. Exactly! Thank you.

+2 This weird narcissistic view that the South is just filled with a bunch of "stupid white boys" which has been uttered multiple times in this thread is completely ridiculous. Just reinforces my negative view of the NOVA and higher crowd that frequent this board. Completely out of touch narcissists that have no clue on how the rest of the country lives their lives.

so you hate stereotypes so much that you respond by stereotyping yourself.

NP. Idk. The people denigrating the southern schools in this thread demonstrably do not know what they are talking about. The Southern schools are objectively more diverse than the northeastern schools DCUM idolizes, and the posters pushing the “stupid white boy” narrative do seem wildly ignorant.

well, Alabama undergrad is 77% white, Auburn's freshman class was 84% white, Ole Miss is 77% white, Clemson is 80%, South Carolina is 77%, and these are the schools enticing kids with their merit aid for 3.5 GPAs and 32 ACT scores. So 'white' seems pretty apt.

Undergrad, per NCES:

U Alabama 11% black, 5% Hispanic
Auburn 5% black, 4% Hispanic
Ole Miss 12% black, 4% Hispanic
Clemson 6% black, 7% Hispanic
UofSC 9% black, 5% Hispanic

Which schools did you want to compare these numbers with? A sampling:

Vandy 11% black, 11% Hispanic
UVA 7% black, 7% Hispanic
Duke 8% black, 10% Hispanic
Harvard 8% black, 11% Hispanic
Yale 8% black, 15% Hispanic
Georgetown 6% black, 8% Hispanic
BU 4% black, 10% Hispanic
Northeastern 6% black, 11% Hispanic
UC Berkeley 2% black, 20% Hispanic

well, Harvard is actually 15% black and 12% Latino, but thanks for playing.

you're obfuscating the point by eliminating from consideration other minorities. The point that was made was how white the university is. And most of those schools you list (putting aside the ones in the South) are not even close to 75% white.

The fall 2021 IPEDs data has Harvard undergrad at 8% black. https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=harvard&s=all&id=166027#enrolmt

ah - yes. my bad - i saw the % of students in the admits for class of 2026. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:I think only white kids go south. We are Asian and would not consider a Southern school, besides UVa.

You don't speak for Asians.
Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Rice are plenty popular.

This is ridiculous. Have you been to Texas? 20% of UT student body is Asian with same at Univ of Houston. 40% at Rice and nearly 10% at the remaining TX schools. And all Texas schools have greater Hispanic populations than the entirety of the NE. As a Hispanic myself, I'd much rather be in school in Texas than anywhere on the E coast. Y'all just need to get out more.

I'm Hispanic and would not send my kid to school in Texas, not a diverse representation of Hispanics there. Mostly all are Mexican or Mexican decent.

I think you mean descent. What actually is wrong with being of Mexican descent? The border between Mexico and Texas has been historically fluid, so it makes sense that Texas would have a lot of Mexicans. My Mexican in-laws call Texas “occupied Mexico.”

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+1 The colleges striving to be designated HSI’s (Hispanic Serving Institutions) don’t particularly care if they are majority Mexican. They just want to reach a 25% number to get the federal designation. How exactly would you like to see that demographic parsed?

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Anonymous wrote:I think only white kids go south. We are Asian and would not consider a Southern school, besides UVa.

You don't speak for Asians.
Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Rice are plenty popular.

This is ridiculous. Have you been to Texas? 20% of UT student body is Asian with same at Univ of Houston. 40% at Rice and nearly 10% at the remaining TX schools. And all Texas schools have greater Hispanic populations than the entirety of the NE. As a Hispanic myself, I'd much rather be in school in Texas than anywhere on the E coast. Y'all just need to get out more.

I'm Hispanic and would not send my kid to school in Texas, not a diverse representation of Hispanics there. Mostly all are Mexican or Mexican decent.

I think you mean descent. What actually is wrong with being of Mexican descent? The border between Mexico and Texas has been historically fluid, so it makes sense that Texas would have a lot of Mexicans. My Mexican in-laws call Texas “occupied Mexico.”

Apparently some Hispanics around here think the Hispanics in Texas are the wrong kind of diversity or something. 🙄

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years, especially wrt female staff at schools in these states, when the person has other choices.

You can tell me they are diverse states and schools all you want - doesn't change state laws that put people's lives in danger.

x1 million

My DD already crossed off red states because she values women’s rights.

Your DD is definitely morally superior to everyone applying to southern schools.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years, especially wrt female staff at schools in these states, when the person has other choices.

You can tell me they are diverse states and schools all you want - doesn't change state laws that put people's lives in danger.

I think you under estimate how many women are either pro-life or apathetic until it's their abortion.

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