I have never heard that and the few times parents respond on here they say they tried it and pulled their kid mid year or after one year. Said its chaotic, the oveall academic ability is very low in many of the students |
OP here. I want my children to go to a racially diverse school, and I live in DC. So - more than about 80% white would be a deal breaker for me, it should be less than that. I don’t think that even exists in DC public or public charter schools anyway, so I’m not too concerned. <2% white seems a bit tough, like my kids might not belong. So I guess I’m looking for a school that’s between 3% and 80% white. That’s… a pretty big range. |
DP and for me I am totally fine with my kid being at a school where white students are a minority, but I'd like to see diversity that reflects my neighborhood (which, rough estimate, is about 50% black, 25% white or white-latino, and the rest about evenly split between non-white latino, asian, and mixed race). The IB elementary is 90%+ black. I don't know what the solution is because the main source of the lack of diversity is all the families who aren't black who choose charters or to lottery into other DCPS schools. I'm not sure how you convince them not to do this. We are at the IB but likely moving because my did does feel like an outsider and it just doesn't feel like a good fit. So we'll soon be part of the problem too. But at least we gave it 3 years. Most people we know in the neighborhood went straight to charters and thought we were "brave" for choosing the IB. One thing about DC that I keep noticing is how much self-segregation there is compared to other places I've lived. This feels like another extension of that. I don't understand it. One reason we live in cities is because we want to raise our kids in a diverse environment. And no, that doesn't mean 80% white with a handful of minorities. Like I said, I am more than okay with my kid being a minority. What is weird is sending her to a school where almost all the kids are one race that she doesn't share, when it's not even like the school is considered very good or offers special programs to make that kind of situation worth it. It just makes no sense for us to stay at this school and the lack of diversity is a major factor. |
I am not questioning your experience, but based on my experience living in several East coast cities this does not track with studies and data. I think one of the civil rights think tanks published a study that said NYC was #1 in the US, and it wasn't close. |
When we moved into our Petworth neighborhood all the way back in 2006 (no kids yet but planning on them soon), one of their first things multiple Black neighbors told us is they could give us tips for avoiding the IB school. |
All the families I know who skipped their local middle school ( not Jefferson) was because of the high school path - in this case Cardozo. People want some certainty after middle and if they think their kid will not get into a magnet school and they don't want to pay for private high school then going to Basis it is. |
Yes it is a big range but I don't think you are being honest with yourself about the other factors involved in decision making- like the achievement level of the kids at the school. What is your tolerance for the percentage of kids performing under grade level? 20% or 70% |
Not OP but this is such a weird comment. Where did OP say that she doesn't care about the achievement level of kids at the school. Also, what parent is like "I want to send my kid to a school where 70% or more of the kids are below grade level." No one, including people who currently send their kids to schools like this. We can acknowledge that there are correlations between the percentage of white kids at a school and the percent of kids at or above grade level, and we can acknowledge that these correlations are likely linked to class. Okay. But that doesn't get at OP's actual question or the topic of this thread, which is whether it's reasonable for a parent to want their kid to go to a school with more racial diversity if their kid is a member of an extreme racial minority (like <3%). And I think most people agree that this is reasonable. Even if the school had 100% of kids above grade level, it's reasonable! No one wants their kid to feel isolated or like a total outsider. It is a question that is separate from the quality of academic instruction or the achievement levels of peers. |
We have a current seventh grader at Jefferson. I’ve never seen anyone on here say that they “pulled their kid” for the reasons you noted. Do you have any links to such posts? Our kid, like the vast majority of students who entered sixth grade at Jefferson last year, is back for seventh grade this year. |
So basically you want to send her to a school that is racially diverse on paper but large enough for her to find an all white friend group enclave? So when she grows up and performs racial microaggressions against Black ppl in college or the workforce she can use I went to a diverse school as a defense but knows nothing about Black Americans. Also remember to capitalize the B in Black. |
If not a troll, get a grip. |
Wow, you need to get some therapy. |
I think most people in DC over estimate their guess of what percentage white their neighborhoods are. What neighborhood are you in? |
We're Asian and won't go for any school that isn't at least around 5% Asian and, say, 40% white, ruling out all but a handful of DC public schools. As kids, we were about the only Asians in urban public middle schools where we were frequently taunted for our race. We were routinely called chink, with classmates pulling on their corners of their eyes to make fun of us. We don't care much about diversity. Given the option, we would go for a public school that was more than 80% white, as long as the student body was also at least 5% Asian. We keep these thoughts to ourselves. |
Smart |