Tell me about redshirting your late summer/fall birthday son before Kindergarten

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Anonymous wrote:^ Actually to amend that one of the more vocal insane anti-redshirters has admitted they have no kids and no skin in this game whatsoever. That person has no idea what they are talking about and probably just shows up to stir the pot. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the outraged PP.

Wow, that’s an insightful hypothetical that you’ve put so much thought into.

Stay mad then.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone and everyone can say their child is emotionally delayed or maturing slower.

And? Parents with the option to redshirt don’t need to justify their choices - not to the school and not on this board.

This is about people’s personal experiences having chosen to redshirt, and whether they think it worked out for the best.

Personal choices are not brought into a classroom that affects others.

Of course they are. Every day.

That was the point. Someone said redshirting is personal implying it only affects their child, which is of course not true.

Having a kid in the class who is not ready from a social and emotional standpoint negatively affects other students, too.

All we can do is make the choices that we think will help our children learn best. And other parents have to do the same. A few posters have tried to frame redshirting as “cheating” or “not following the rules”, which is bizarre because in a private school setting it is not only explicitly allowed, it is strongly encouraged in many cases.

If you feel strongly that having redshirted kids in your class negatively affects your child, then choose a school that does not allow or encourage redshirting.

If you feel strongly that your child needs to be redshirted, then get him appropriate help.

Nope. Redshirting him worked out perfectly, with no downside at all, so why do differently? The help he needed was an extra year in the classroom, and he got it.

So, you neglected to get him help? Strange.

Yes, I “neglected” to get him help and redshirted him instead. And now he’s happy, thriving, loving school, and getting grades that indicate that he’s mastering the material very well. It’s hard to see what “help” could have done for him that an extra year of schooling didn’t. Your extreme urge to pathologize the fact that kids mature at different rates is baffling.

Good, if he is so confident and thriving, put him back in the appropriate grade that he should be in.

The arrogance here is appalling. Who appointed you czar of what is best for other peoples' kids?!

She only cares about her kid and can't stand the idea that others are doing what's best for their kids. I don't see a different at all.

Similar to how others only care about their own children? The difference is redshirted parents are taking a divergence with an underlying goal that hurts those who are not maltreating the system.

The goal is obviously not to hurt other kids, come on. And really many parenting choices "hurt" other kids. Are you advocating to shut down tutoring centers as well? Why not?

The goal does hurt other kids, no matter how pollyanish you want to be.
The tutoring centers suggestion from you is a reach but nice try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Actually to amend that one of the more vocal insane anti-redshirters has admitted they have no kids and no skin in this game whatsoever. That person has no idea what they are talking about and probably just shows up to stir the pot. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the outraged PP.

Wow, that’s an insightful hypothetical that you’ve put so much thought into.

Stay mad then.

Would you hypothetically analyze that please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ Actually to amend that one of the more vocal insane anti-redshirters has admitted they have no kids and no skin in this game whatsoever. That person has no idea what they are talking about and probably just shows up to stir the pot. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the outraged PP.

DP
Your post is a red flag that you are a vocal insane whatever label you are. Walk away from your device.

[Anonymous]

You’re going to get a ton of defensive responses from parents who held their kids back a year and tons of defensive responses from parents who didn’t.

I have a late summer boy and I sent him on time and it was clearly the right choice for him. He is 99th percentile on pretty much every standardized test, he is one of the tallest, and social maturity wise he seemed “young” in K but now after having just finished 2nd, he is very middle of the road. Plenty of friends. Just my two cents.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re going to get a ton of defensive responses from parents who held their kids back a year and tons of defensive responses from parents who didn’t.

I have a late summer boy and I sent him on time and it was clearly the right choice for him. He is 99th percentile on pretty much every standardized test, he is one of the tallest, and social maturity wise he seemed “young” in K but now after having just finished 2nd, he is very middle of the road. Plenty of friends. Just my two cents.

It dissipates in elementary school and becomes a non issue as you’ve noticed. Good for you for having faith in your child.

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Oh and lots of parents will say “no one ever regrets holding them back!” And I’m sure that’s true sometimes but I’ve noticed the boys who were held back are the boys who are bigger/taller now in 2nd grade and they act out , aren’t always very inclusive, etc. They seem , on average, to have “king of the castle” mentality and I hope their parents recognize it and help them dial it back before the end up as teenagers with the same behaviors and the same “I’m biggest and best” mentality.

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^^whereas the girls who were held back seem perfectly normal, I’ll add. Like they seem to be at the correct grade even having been held back, unlike the boys who seem… just bigger and stronger and more aggressive. Not sure why there is the difference bht in our elementary school that’s what I see.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh and lots of parents will say “no one ever regrets holding them back!” And I’m sure that’s true sometimes but I’ve noticed the boys who were held back are the boys who are bigger/taller now in 2nd grade and they act out , aren’t always very inclusive, etc. They seem , on average, to have “king of the castle” mentality and I hope their parents recognize it and help them dial it back before the end up as teenagers with the same behaviors and the same “I’m biggest and best” mentality.

That’s what the parents want. They “need” this boost.

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Anonymous wrote:^^whereas the girls who were held back seem perfectly normal, I’ll add. Like they seem to be at the correct grade even having been held back, unlike the boys who seem… just bigger and stronger and more aggressive. Not sure why there is the difference bht in our elementary school that’s what I see.

Girls by nature are not as aggressive as boys.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh and lots of parents will say “no one ever regrets holding them back!” And I’m sure that’s true sometimes but I’ve noticed the boys who were held back are the boys who are bigger/taller now in 2nd grade and they act out , aren’t always very inclusive, etc. They seem , on average, to have “king of the castle” mentality and I hope their parents recognize it and help them dial it back before the end up as teenagers with the same behaviors and the same “I’m biggest and best” mentality.

BINGO! You can see this same mentality in the parents personalities when they try to defend their “choice.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone and everyone can say their child is emotionally delayed or maturing slower.

And? Parents with the option to redshirt don’t need to justify their choices - not to the school and not on this board.

This is about people’s personal experiences having chosen to redshirt, and whether they think it worked out for the best.

Personal choices are not brought into a classroom that affects others.

Of course they are. Every day.

That was the point. Someone said redshirting is personal implying it only affects their child, which is of course not true.

Having a kid in the class who is not ready from a social and emotional standpoint negatively affects other students, too.

All we can do is make the choices that we think will help our children learn best. And other parents have to do the same. A few posters have tried to frame redshirting as “cheating” or “not following the rules”, which is bizarre because in a private school setting it is not only explicitly allowed, it is strongly encouraged in many cases.

If you feel strongly that having redshirted kids in your class negatively affects your child, then choose a school that does not allow or encourage redshirting.

If you feel strongly that your child needs to be redshirted, then get him appropriate help.

Nope. Redshirting him worked out perfectly, with no downside at all, so why do differently? The help he needed was an extra year in the classroom, and he got it.

So, you neglected to get him help? Strange.

Yes, I “neglected” to get him help and redshirted him instead. And now he’s happy, thriving, loving school, and getting grades that indicate that he’s mastering the material very well. It’s hard to see what “help” could have done for him that an extra year of schooling didn’t. Your extreme urge to pathologize the fact that kids mature at different rates is baffling.

Good, if he is so confident and thriving, put him back in the appropriate grade that he should be in.

Who made you the one who gets to decide what’s “appropriate”? Why do you think your personal sense of appropriateness is more important than the judgment of parents or schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ Actually to amend that one of the more vocal insane anti-redshirters has admitted they have no kids and no skin in this game whatsoever. That person has no idea what they are talking about and probably just shows up to stir the pot. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the outraged PP.

DP
Your post is a red flag that you are a vocal insane whatever label you are. Walk away from your device.

Trolls stay trolling.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone and everyone can say their child is emotionally delayed or maturing slower.

And? Parents with the option to redshirt don’t need to justify their choices - not to the school and not on this board.

This is about people’s personal experiences having chosen to redshirt, and whether they think it worked out for the best.

Personal choices are not brought into a classroom that affects others.

Of course they are. Every day.

That was the point. Someone said redshirting is personal implying it only affects their child, which is of course not true.

Having a kid in the class who is not ready from a social and emotional standpoint negatively affects other students, too.

All we can do is make the choices that we think will help our children learn best. And other parents have to do the same. A few posters have tried to frame redshirting as “cheating” or “not following the rules”, which is bizarre because in a private school setting it is not only explicitly allowed, it is strongly encouraged in many cases.

If you feel strongly that having redshirted kids in your class negatively affects your child, then choose a school that does not allow or encourage redshirting.

If you feel strongly that your child needs to be redshirted, then get him appropriate help.

Nope. Redshirting him worked out perfectly, with no downside at all, so why do differently? The help he needed was an extra year in the classroom, and he got it.

So, you neglected to get him help? Strange.

Yes, I “neglected” to get him help and redshirted him instead. And now he’s happy, thriving, loving school, and getting grades that indicate that he’s mastering the material very well. It’s hard to see what “help” could have done for him that an extra year of schooling didn’t. Your extreme urge to pathologize the fact that kids mature at different rates is baffling.

Good, if he is so confident and thriving, put him back in the appropriate grade that he should be in.

The arrogance here is appalling. Who appointed you czar of what is best for other peoples' kids?!

She only cares about her kid and can't stand the idea that others are doing what's best for their kids. I don't see a different at all.

Similar to how others only care about their own children? The difference is redshirted parents are taking a divergence with an underlying goal that hurts those who are not maltreating the system.

The goal is obviously not to hurt other kids, come on. And really many parenting choices "hurt" other kids. Are you advocating to shut down tutoring centers as well? Why not?

The goal does hurt other kids, no matter how pollyanish you want to be.
The tutoring centers suggestion from you is a reach but nice try.

Thought about as much. You just object to one tool at parents disposal to help their kids. Why is that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Actually to amend that one of the more vocal insane anti-redshirters has admitted they have no kids and no skin in this game whatsoever. That person has no idea what they are talking about and probably just shows up to stir the pot. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the outraged PP.

DP
Your post is a red flag that you are a vocal insane whatever label you are. Walk away from your device.

Trolls stay trolling.

Guess you won’t ever leave then.