Youngkin creates tip line for parents and students to report teachers for Thought Crime

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another FCPS survey was given today. I have the screenshot but can't paste it here, so I'll just summarize. Nothing terrible, just so ridiculous and unnecessary. And as always, focused on race and ethnicity.

Do you have positive relationships with any of these adults in your school? Mark all that apply:

The principal or assistant principal
A teacher
My counselor
The School Resource Officer (SRO)
The School Security Officer (SSO)
An adult that shares my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
An adult that does not share my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
I do not have a positive relationship with any adult at this school


I don’t understand your objection to this. Do you not think it's important for kids to have positive relationships with adults? Do you think it’s not important to know? Do you not think it matters if kids don’t see someone like themselves in roles of authority?

Republicans had miserable, unhappy childhoods and they think everyone else should have miserable, unhappy childhoods. Any pretense to trying to make sure that all kids have a safe adult in their childhood is dangerous, because then that would offer a ray of light in a troubled child’s life and then what comes next? Some sort of intervention? Some kind of hope for a better future? We can’t have that! Everyone must experience the crucible of misery!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is what the tip line is trying to ‘catch’:
A teacher tells the class that White people hurled insults atJackie Robinson. They get ‘reported’ for not saying ‘some’ people and that “hurled” is too strong a word. This is why the whole idea is crazy.


OFGS

I hope teachers quit over this nonsense. Virginia, be prepared for the implosion of your public school system if that happens.


Narrator: The GOP WANTS the implosion of the public school system.


No, but if overtly political teachers chose to quit it wouldn't be a tragedy.


You will be persecuting dozens of nonpolitical teachers who teach legitimate history, literature, etc. that may be uncomfortable to some delusional parents for every actually politically inappropriate teacher you find. There are much better ways to protect students institutionally. A state-sponsored teacher persecution hotline is not something any honorable Governor would do.


DP. Don't be stupid. Your hyperbole looks ridiculous. No one is "persecuting" anyone, and certainly not good teachers who keep their personal politics out of the classroom.


The above statement re: Robinson is not "personal politics" but a description of what happened. Just bc you're too delicate to hear it . . . that's a you problem. And don't worry, hon, even if you are successful in censoring accurate history in classrooms, there are lots of parents who are capable of a) giving it to them at home and b) explaining to them that whiny little snowflakes like yourself are the reason you don't hear it in class. Don't be like the whiny snowflakes.
Anonymous
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This is the sentiment that animates most of the outrage on the right: the fear that someone who is not like you (different race, ethnicity, gender, sexual identity etc.) will get or take something from you that is rightfully yours.


No. You just want to be judged objectively. Not on color.


+1,000,000
This is the best synopsis I’ve ever seen.


Nah, you are already not viewed objectively. Non-POC already have built in head starts. You can ignore it or deny it but that is little different than choosing to go in the rain w/o an umbrella. It's still raining.

Look, I'm white. My family wasn't even in this country until the turn of the last century. We were a marginalized immigrant population and my family worked in service industries, factories . . . they did not do college as a whole. So, financially, I was not privileged. But, I do benefit from being white. So do you. Somehow, I doubt you mind that fact.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another FCPS survey was given today. I have the screenshot but can't paste it here, so I'll just summarize. Nothing terrible, just so ridiculous and unnecessary. And as always, focused on race and ethnicity.

Do you have positive relationships with any of these adults in your school? Mark all that apply:

The principal or assistant principal
A teacher
My counselor
The School Resource Officer (SRO)
The School Security Officer (SSO)
An adult that shares my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
An adult that does not share my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
I do not have a positive relationship with any adult at this school


I don’t understand your objection to this. Do you not think it's important for kids to have positive relationships with adults? Do you think it’s not important to know? Do you not think it matters if kids don’t see someone like themselves in roles of authority?

Republicans had miserable, unhappy childhoods and they think everyone else should have miserable, unhappy childhoods. Any pretense to trying to make sure that all kids have a safe adult in their childhood is dangerous, because then that would offer a ray of light in a troubled child’s life and then what comes next? Some sort of intervention? Some kind of hope for a better future? We can’t have that! Everyone must experience the crucible of misery!


Wow - that’s some impressive projection! I’m a Republican and had a wonderful childhood. Of course I want all children to have the same. I fail to see how having an adult “look like you” is the criteria for a “safe adult.” Plenty of adults who look like kids are not - in any way - safe adults. How about just, “Do you have an adult at school with whom you feel safe and comfortable?” Ethnicity and race is *totally* irrelevant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what the tip line is trying to ‘catch’:
A teacher tells the class that White people hurled insults atJackie Robinson. They get ‘reported’ for not saying ‘some’ people and that “hurled” is too strong a word. This is why the whole idea is crazy.


OFGS

I hope teachers quit over this nonsense. Virginia, be prepared for the implosion of your public school system if that happens.


Narrator: The GOP WANTS the implosion of the public school system.


No, but if overtly political teachers chose to quit it wouldn't be a tragedy.


You will be persecuting dozens of nonpolitical teachers who teach legitimate history, literature, etc. that may be uncomfortable to some delusional parents for every actually politically inappropriate teacher you find. There are much better ways to protect students institutionally. A state-sponsored teacher persecution hotline is not something any honorable Governor would do.


DP. Don't be stupid. Your hyperbole looks ridiculous. No one is "persecuting" anyone, and certainly not good teachers who keep their personal politics out of the classroom.


The above statement re: Robinson is not "personal politics" but a description of what happened. Just bc you're too delicate to hear it . . . that's a you problem. And don't worry, hon, even if you are successful in censoring accurate history in classrooms, there are lots of parents who are capable of a) giving it to them at home and b) explaining to them that whiny little snowflakes like yourself are the reason you don't hear it in class. Don't be like the whiny snowflakes.


Yes, I’m well aware white people hurled insults at Jackie Robinson. Do you actually have an example of parents objecting to teaching this ? Or is that little anecdote yet another product of your fevered imagination?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another FCPS survey was given today. I have the screenshot but can't paste it here, so I'll just summarize. Nothing terrible, just so ridiculous and unnecessary. And as always, focused on race and ethnicity.

Do you have positive relationships with any of these adults in your school? Mark all that apply:

The principal or assistant principal
A teacher
My counselor
The School Resource Officer (SRO)
The School Security Officer (SSO)
An adult that shares my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
An adult that does not share my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
I do not have a positive relationship with any adult at this school


I don’t understand your objection to this. Do you not think it's important for kids to have positive relationships with adults? Do you think it’s not important to know? Do you not think it matters if kids don’t see someone like themselves in roles of authority?

Republicans had miserable, unhappy childhoods and they think everyone else should have miserable, unhappy childhoods. Any pretense to trying to make sure that all kids have a safe adult in their childhood is dangerous, because then that would offer a ray of light in a troubled child’s life and then what comes next? Some sort of intervention? Some kind of hope for a better future? We can’t have that! Everyone must experience the crucible of misery!


Wow - that’s some impressive projection! I’m a Republican and had a wonderful childhood. Of course I want all children to have the same. I fail to see how having an adult “look like you” is the criteria for a “safe adult.” Plenty of adults who look like kids are not - in any way - safe adults. How about just, “Do you have an adult at school with whom you feel safe and comfortable?” Ethnicity and race is *totally* irrelevant.


DP but I just had to jump in. Dear God are you dense! The question was a multiple-choice survey question, not a yes/no question. A multiple choice question is very common in surveys and is often preferred because it yields more information than just "yes" or "no." The survey writer could have created a write-in question but people are less likely to answer those types of questions, so the survey creator wrote a list of choices that included the racial/ethnic/cultural choice. It is not a political question. It just sounds like the survey writer was trying to tease out if students have a relationship with at least one adult they can relate to/talk to/open up to in their specific school. Don't make this more than it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another FCPS survey was given today. I have the screenshot but can't paste it here, so I'll just summarize. Nothing terrible, just so ridiculous and unnecessary. And as always, focused on race and ethnicity.

Do you have positive relationships with any of these adults in your school? Mark all that apply:

The principal or assistant principal
A teacher
My counselor
The School Resource Officer (SRO)
The School Security Officer (SSO)
An adult that shares my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
An adult that does not share my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
I do not have a positive relationship with any adult at this school


I don’t understand your objection to this. Do you not think it's important for kids to have positive relationships with adults? Do you think it’s not important to know? Do you not think it matters if kids don’t see someone like themselves in roles of authority?

Republicans had miserable, unhappy childhoods and they think everyone else should have miserable, unhappy childhoods. Any pretense to trying to make sure that all kids have a safe adult in their childhood is dangerous, because then that would offer a ray of light in a troubled child’s life and then what comes next? Some sort of intervention? Some kind of hope for a better future? We can’t have that! Everyone must experience the crucible of misery!


Wow - that’s some impressive projection! I’m a Republican and had a wonderful childhood. Of course I want all children to have the same. I fail to see how having an adult “look like you” is the criteria for a “safe adult.” Plenty of adults who look like kids are not - in any way - safe adults. How about just, “Do you have an adult at school with whom you feel safe and comfortable?” Ethnicity and race is *totally* irrelevant.


DP but I just had to jump in. Dear God are you dense! The question was a multiple-choice survey question, not a yes/no question. A multiple choice question is very common in surveys and is often preferred because it yields more information than just "yes" or "no." The survey writer could have created a write-in question but people are less likely to answer those types of questions, so the survey creator wrote a list of choices that included the racial/ethnic/cultural choice. It is not a political question. It just sounds like the survey writer was trying to tease out if students have a relationship with at least one adult they can relate to/talk to/open up to in their specific school. Don't make this more than it is.


Speaking of dense ^^^... by simply eliminating those two options that refer to racial/ethnic background, the survey writer would have gotten the answers needed. Is there an adult at school that the student feels comfortable with and can relate to? Yes/No. Because, once again - just because someone shares the same racial/ethnic background does NOT mean that person is a "safe adult." Absurd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another FCPS survey was given today. I have the screenshot but can't paste it here, so I'll just summarize. Nothing terrible, just so ridiculous and unnecessary. And as always, focused on race and ethnicity.

Do you have positive relationships with any of these adults in your school? Mark all that apply:

The principal or assistant principal
A teacher
My counselor
The School Resource Officer (SRO)
The School Security Officer (SSO)
An adult that shares my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
An adult that does not share my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
I do not have a positive relationship with any adult at this school


I don’t understand your objection to this. Do you not think it's important for kids to have positive relationships with adults? Do you think it’s not important to know? Do you not think it matters if kids don’t see someone like themselves in roles of authority?

Republicans had miserable, unhappy childhoods and they think everyone else should have miserable, unhappy childhoods. Any pretense to trying to make sure that all kids have a safe adult in their childhood is dangerous, because then that would offer a ray of light in a troubled child’s life and then what comes next? Some sort of intervention? Some kind of hope for a better future? We can’t have that! Everyone must experience the crucible of misery!


Wow - that’s some impressive projection! I’m a Republican and had a wonderful childhood. Of course I want all children to have the same. I fail to see how having an adult “look like you” is the criteria for a “safe adult.” Plenty of adults who look like kids are not - in any way - safe adults. How about just, “Do you have an adult at school with whom you feel safe and comfortable?” Ethnicity and race is *totally* irrelevant.

Says the angry White guy who is probably also over in the merit thread saying that minorities are inherently less qualified. You white supremacists are clutching your bits that minorities and women are getting a toehold in the world, finally, and you’re over here pretending that having people look like you doesn’t matter.

(And you can call it projection, but I know way too many angry Republicans who had miserable childhoods that they simultaneously say was the greatest, most important growing up ever but then later they’ll fill you in on the abuse they suffered.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another FCPS survey was given today. I have the screenshot but can't paste it here, so I'll just summarize. Nothing terrible, just so ridiculous and unnecessary. And as always, focused on race and ethnicity.

Do you have positive relationships with any of these adults in your school? Mark all that apply:

The principal or assistant principal
A teacher
My counselor
The School Resource Officer (SRO)
The School Security Officer (SSO)
An adult that shares my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
An adult that does not share my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
I do not have a positive relationship with any adult at this school


I don’t understand your objection to this. Do you not think it's important for kids to have positive relationships with adults? Do you think it’s not important to know? Do you not think it matters if kids don’t see someone like themselves in roles of authority?

Republicans had miserable, unhappy childhoods and they think everyone else should have miserable, unhappy childhoods. Any pretense to trying to make sure that all kids have a safe adult in their childhood is dangerous, because then that would offer a ray of light in a troubled child’s life and then what comes next? Some sort of intervention? Some kind of hope for a better future? We can’t have that! Everyone must experience the crucible of misery!


Wow - that’s some impressive projection! I’m a Republican and had a wonderful childhood. Of course I want all children to have the same. I fail to see how having an adult “look like you” is the criteria for a “safe adult.” Plenty of adults who look like kids are not - in any way - safe adults. How about just, “Do you have an adult at school with whom you feel safe and comfortable?” Ethnicity and race is *totally* irrelevant.


Tell us you had adults in authority roles who looked like you when you were a child without telling us.

Republicans seem to have a harder time imagining others’ lives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another FCPS survey was given today. I have the screenshot but can't paste it here, so I'll just summarize. Nothing terrible, just so ridiculous and unnecessary. And as always, focused on race and ethnicity.

Do you have positive relationships with any of these adults in your school? Mark all that apply:

The principal or assistant principal
A teacher
My counselor
The School Resource Officer (SRO)
The School Security Officer (SSO)
An adult that shares my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
An adult that does not share my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
I do not have a positive relationship with any adult at this school


I don’t understand your objection to this. Do you not think it's important for kids to have positive relationships with adults? Do you think it’s not important to know? Do you not think it matters if kids don’t see someone like themselves in roles of authority?

Republicans had miserable, unhappy childhoods and they think everyone else should have miserable, unhappy childhoods. Any pretense to trying to make sure that all kids have a safe adult in their childhood is dangerous, because then that would offer a ray of light in a troubled child’s life and then what comes next? Some sort of intervention? Some kind of hope for a better future? We can’t have that! Everyone must experience the crucible of misery!


Wow - that’s some impressive projection! I’m a Republican and had a wonderful childhood. Of course I want all children to have the same. I fail to see how having an adult “look like you” is the criteria for a “safe adult.” Plenty of adults who look like kids are not - in any way - safe adults. How about just, “Do you have an adult at school with whom you feel safe and comfortable?” Ethnicity and race is *totally* irrelevant.


Tell you what. Go ask your black friends, family, and neighbors if they ever had any black teachers or principals and whether that mattered in the least.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why has this devolved to talking about teaching slavery? It isn't about not teaching about slavery and the associated political history.

This is about so-called anti-racist and CRT influenced ideas being used in public schools. Call it the successor ideology, whatever you want. If this were about not teaching slavery or Jim Crow, and so on, it would have been an issue three, four, five, six, seven... years ago. But it wasn't. Why?


Because there are Virginia high schools that do NOT teach slavery. My kid met a fellow freshman from VA at college (they are freshmen, btw) and the kid says he never learned about slavery in APUSH. Said it was taught as a states right issue.

I find it laughable that the GOP is afraid of the big bad China right now. Do you know what they don't teach in their history books - the cultural revolution. It does not exist.

Of course, I reported this to the hotline.
Anonymous
I have difficulty believing a child could graduate from a Virginia school without ever hearing about slavery. We dont hide this fact of our history.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have difficulty believing a child could graduate from a Virginia school without ever hearing about slavery. We dont hide this fact of our history.


Now that will change. I just wonder what else will be removed. I think Jan 6th will be a holiday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another FCPS survey was given today. I have the screenshot but can't paste it here, so I'll just summarize. Nothing terrible, just so ridiculous and unnecessary. And as always, focused on race and ethnicity.

Do you have positive relationships with any of these adults in your school? Mark all that apply:

The principal or assistant principal
A teacher
My counselor
The School Resource Officer (SRO)
The School Security Officer (SSO)
An adult that shares my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
An adult that does not share my racial, ethnic, or cultural background
I do not have a positive relationship with any adult at this school


I don’t understand your objection to this. Do you not think it's important for kids to have positive relationships with adults? Do you think it’s not important to know? Do you not think it matters if kids don’t see someone like themselves in roles of authority?

Republicans had miserable, unhappy childhoods and they think everyone else should have miserable, unhappy childhoods. Any pretense to trying to make sure that all kids have a safe adult in their childhood is dangerous, because then that would offer a ray of light in a troubled child’s life and then what comes next? Some sort of intervention? Some kind of hope for a better future? We can’t have that! Everyone must experience the crucible of misery!


Wow - that’s some impressive projection! I’m a Republican and had a wonderful childhood. Of course I want all children to have the same. I fail to see how having an adult “look like you” is the criteria for a “safe adult.” Plenty of adults who look like kids are not - in any way - safe adults. How about just, “Do you have an adult at school with whom you feel safe and comfortable?” Ethnicity and race is *totally* irrelevant.

Says the angry White guy who is probably also over in the merit thread saying that minorities are inherently less qualified. You white supremacists are clutching your bits that minorities and women are getting a toehold in the world, finally, and you’re over here pretending that having people look like you doesn’t matter.

(And you can call it projection, but I know way too many angry Republicans who had miserable childhoods that they simultaneously say was the greatest, most important growing up ever but then later they’ll fill you in on the abuse they suffered.)


What an incredibly idiotic post. So believable! You really need to take a seat and stop making up ridiculous stories that are obvious lies. Oh, and I'm not a white guy. Sorry to disappoint.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why has this devolved to talking about teaching slavery? It isn't about not teaching about slavery and the associated political history.

This is about so-called anti-racist and CRT influenced ideas being used in public schools. Call it the successor ideology, whatever you want. If this were about not teaching slavery or Jim Crow, and so on, it would have been an issue three, four, five, six, seven... years ago. But it wasn't. Why?


Because there are Virginia high schools that do NOT teach slavery. My kid met a fellow freshman from VA at college (they are freshmen, btw) and the kid says he never learned about slavery in APUSH. Said it was taught as a states right issue.

I find it laughable that the GOP is afraid of the big bad China right now. Do you know what they don't teach in their history books - the cultural revolution. It does not exist.

Of course, I reported this to the hotline.


Re: the bolded - BS BS BS. Stop lying. You just look absurd.

https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/pdf/ap-us-history-course-a-glance-0.pdf?course=ap-united-states-history
https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.doe.virginia.gov%2Ftesting%2Fsol%2Fstandards_docs%2Fhistory_socialscience%2F2015%2Fstsd-2015-hss-va-ushistory.docx&wdOrigin=BROWSELINK
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