Will your DC wear mask to school when Youngkin lifts school mask mandate next week?

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Anonymous wrote:An executive order does not supersede a law passed by the state legislature. An executive order that is infringes on the ability of a student at risk for severe illness from a Covid may be unconstitutional. And school districts who do not take mitigation measures to reasonably limit transmission subject themselves to civil liability. This will be mired in litigation for some time.

Was there failure to fully open which infringed on my child’s ability to access education unconstitutional?

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Anonymous wrote:School nurse here. The clinic is the last place that unmasked children should be placed, with the asthmatic kids, diabetic kids, kids with cancer, autoimmune diseases, organ transplants that I care for every day. I have all of these at my school.

For you and the teachers who are so upset, why do you think this?
You can wear a mask and the children you mentioned can wear a mask.
But you are wearing the mask to protect yourself. It’s for you. So if you want it, then wear it.
Prior to the pandemic, there were definitely people with the conditions you mentioned wearing masks They did so for their protection. Our neighbors who was undergoing chemo wore a mask all the time outside the home. A friend who had horrible allergies wore one at certain times as well. The masks were for their benefit

Is the problem really that you will feel strange or weird if you are the only one wearing a mask? Because I actually think it’s way more that. Otherwise uuu would know that you would continue to wear a mask with no consternation or concern for what others want to do.

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APS announced they are continuing to require masks for all.

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Anonymous wrote:APS just issued a statement reiterating that the current mask requirements stand.

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Not enforceable. Executive Order overrides it.

He cites a law that backs up his order

The order cites 1-240.1, the rallying cry of those espousing parental rights. That interest competes with the interests of other students, teachers and authority of school boards to look out for greater public health interests. Parents’ decisions regarding child do not get to exist in a vacuum and those decisions can’t infringe on the rights of other students and teachers to a safe and conducive learning/school/work environment, something squarely within the purview of local school boards and the districts for which they have oversight.

Thank you! Now let’s hope that lawyers quickly help districts enforce their mandates. Schools have too much on their plates to be dealing with students who won’t follow the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:You all know it’s possible to believe in brakes *and* air bags, yes? We’re in the middle of an unprecedented surge and a hospital crisis.

Hospital crisis. VA hospitals are doing excellent compared to pre-COVID for this time of the year. Hospitals are usually 80% occupied during non-flu seasons, and often fill up during flu seasons.

Right now, VA is at 78% hospital beds occupied and 81% of ICU beds. They're doing amazing. That's what happens when you have a high vaccination rates and a variant is a cold.

My co-worker just sat in urgent care for 80+ hours trying to get a bed.

We have a hospital crisis.

They sat in urgent care for multiple days?

Yes, they sat in an urgent care room waiting to be admitted for a semi-emergency procedure at the hospital. The doctor kept saying no beds at the hospital.

Wow, 80 hours? Which hospital was this? My DW spent 2 nights at VA Hospital Center recently (not Covid related). When urgent care decided to admit her she waited about 4 hours before being transported to the hospital where she had a room.

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Anonymous wrote:APS announced they are continuing to require masks for all.

Fairfax has as well

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Anonymous wrote:APS just issued a statement reiterating that the current mask requirements stand.

+1

Not enforceable. Executive Order overrides it.

He cites a law that backs up his order

The order cites 1-240.1, the rallying cry of those espousing parental rights. That interest competes with the interests of other students, teachers and authority of school boards to look out for greater public health interests. Parents’ decisions regarding child do not get to exist in a vacuum and those decisions can’t infringe on the rights of other students and teachers to a safe and conducive learning/school/work environment, something squarely within the purview of local school boards and the districts for which they have oversight.

Thank you! Now let’s hope that lawyers quickly help districts enforce their mandates. Schools have too much on their plates to be dealing with students who won’t follow the rules.

If Youngkins does not get his way he will cut state funding for local areas that do not comply. Nothing says republicans like heavy handed state control.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids will not be wearing them on Tuesday

I hope whatever school your children attend don’t let them in the building.

Any maskless kid should be required to quarantine if a close contact, regardless of vaccination status.

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Anonymous wrote:APS just issued a statement reiterating that the current mask requirements stand.

+1

Not enforceable. Executive Order overrides it.

He cites a law that backs up his order

The order cites 1-240.1, the rallying cry of those espousing parental rights. That interest competes with the interests of other students, teachers and authority of school boards to look out for greater public health interests. Parents’ decisions regarding child do not get to exist in a vacuum and those decisions can’t infringe on the rights of other students and teachers to a safe and conducive learning/school/work environment, something squarely within the purview of local school boards and the districts for which they have oversight.

Thank you! Now let’s hope that lawyers quickly help districts enforce their mandates. Schools have too much on their plates to be dealing with students who won’t follow the rules.

If Youngkins does not get his way he will cut state funding for local areas that do not comply. Nothing says republicans like heavy handed state control.

Dems still have the Senate. Youngkin does not have complete power.

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Anonymous wrote:APS announced they are continuing to require masks for all.

Fairfax has as well

Where? Because all of the parents are having the same conversation on the Fairfax board today.

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Anonymous wrote:No way - teacher here - this is a serious deal breaker for me. I was considering maybe we wouldnt need masks anymore last summer, but not right now when we have more cases than ever before and I have more of a chance of catching it.

I feel the opposite way. I don’t see how their poorly worn masks are doing anything and hear how schools have been open without masks throughout the pandemic. I will enforce whatever rules my district, FCCPS sets. I am concerned they want to mask forever and will keep the mask mandate next year too. If that’s the case I will go to any district nearby that doesn’t require them.

I am with you. It's pretty clear that poorly worn unsealed masks are theater at this point. But people will be clinging to their safety blankets forever and with it our kids will be masked for eternity or for every flu/cold season for any reason other than Covid, which means half of the school year. It has to stop. Anyone can get a vaccine now, any age, isn't it what you all have been waiting for to unmask your kids? Treatments are coming and this variant is milder. Anyone who wants complete protection can use N95, they are already trying to push this in some schools.

Kids under 5 still can’t get a vaccine.

No one in our family has any contact with five year olds so that isn't stopping us.

Do you have contact with people who live with 5 year olds?

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Anonymous wrote:My kids will not be wearing them on Tuesday

Well, the order is effective 1/24, not 1/18, so here’s hoping your kid can read better than you can.

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Anonymous wrote:No way - teacher here - this is a serious deal breaker for me. I was considering maybe we wouldnt need masks anymore last summer, but not right now when we have more cases than ever before and I have more of a chance of catching it.

I feel the opposite way. I don’t see how their poorly worn masks are doing anything and hear how schools have been open without masks throughout the pandemic. I will enforce whatever rules my district, FCCPS sets. I am concerned they want to mask forever and will keep the mask mandate next year too. If that’s the case I will go to any district nearby that doesn’t require them.

I am with you. It's pretty clear that poorly worn unsealed masks are theater at this point. But people will be clinging to their safety blankets forever and with it our kids will be masked for eternity or for every flu/cold season for any reason other than Covid, which means half of the school year. It has to stop. Anyone can get a vaccine now, any age, isn't it what you all have been waiting for to unmask your kids? Treatments are coming and this variant is milder. Anyone who wants complete protection can use N95, they are already trying to push this in some schools.

Kids under 5 still can’t get a vaccine.

No one in our family has any contact with five year olds so that isn't stopping us.

Do you have contact with people who live with 5 year olds?

Correction. Do you have contact with people who live with kids under 5?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids will not be wearing them on Tuesday

Did you read the EO?! If so, I assume you meant Tuesday, January 25? As this EO doesn’t go into effect until
Midnight on Monday, January 24. So your kids need to mask up next week—including next Tuesday.

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Anonymous wrote:School nurse here. The clinic is the last place that unmasked children should be placed, with the asthmatic kids, diabetic kids, kids with cancer, autoimmune diseases, organ transplants that I care for every day. I have all of these at my school.

For you and the teachers who are so upset, why do you think this?
You can wear a mask and the children you mentioned can wear a mask.
But you are wearing the mask to protect yourself. It’s for you. So if you want it, then wear it.
Prior to the pandemic, there were definitely people with the conditions you mentioned wearing masks They did so for their protection. Our neighbors who was undergoing chemo wore a mask all the time outside the home. A friend who had horrible allergies wore one at certain times as well. The masks were for their benefit

Is the problem really that you will feel strange or weird if you are the only one wearing a mask? Because I actually think it’s way more that. Otherwise uuu would know that you would continue to wear a mask with no consternation or concern for what others want to do.

You are looking at this from the lens of your child, one person. Teachers are looking at this from a classroom perspective, and taking in the experience for all 20+ students in the classroom. They are looking at the situation as a class, and you are looking at it for your child, 1 person. I hope you understand the difference.