CNN Special - Moms who voted for Biden explain why they voted for a Republican(Youngkin) in Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Thank you. Talk about a "whitewashing of facts."

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Anonymous wrote:When this whole thing began, I recall thinking that the blue states will be the last to shut down schools because they realize the role the schools play in helping the most vulnerable among us. And yet they did close and were the last to reopen.

I still can’t believe that.

Don’t forget that plenty of k-6 kids who are unvaccinated have been quarantined (some of this was unnecessary) this year. So still missing school.

Huh? More lower SES families selected virtual than the affluent families.

If you have the stats on this via link I would like to see.

APS 12/17 board meeting

Selection for return to school model when asked in December 2020:

Overall:
39% virtual
54% hybrid

Economically disadvantaged:
42% virtual
39% hybrid

Also they had thousands of families switch from hybrid to distance at that selection point as well. Don’t have demographic breakdown for that.

I don’t know if board doc link works but here it goes:
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=BUERSE6F161B

So I guess my point is - we should have let those 39% of economically disadvantaged have their hybrid option - we shouldn't have made those families do all virtual.

They did get hybrid (some ended up concurrent). This was the selection in Dec 2020 for return to school in early 2021.

I think they should have gotten it in August 2020 - fwiw. When Northam allowed it.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

This. Teachers did not go back until they were vaccinated. Surges had zero to do with anything. People like my kid's 20-something healthy teacher got prioritized so she could eventually be asked to go back and perform her job in person. And yes, many people noticed this.

The lack of outbreaks when school returned in the Fall (which the NoVa districts were forced to do by law and would not have done otherwise) really just exposed the Ds. I sincerely believe some of my most liberal leaning friends were disappointed it wasn't a disaster of epic proportions. They were waiting with bated breath for widespread outbreaks and school closures.

+ a million to both PPs. I especially love the "fearful in our home" BS. Good grief. And the bolded is absolutely true. You can see that among many liberals on this site. They are actually disappointed that life is going to continue, more or less as normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m also a mom and not happy about schools being closed. But I think that was the best call during a freaking pandemic.

I want a plan to do over a year of school. Delay us graduation option. Improve facilities to prepare if this happens again. Improve vaccination production abilities.

All the education in the world won’t help my girls if they accidentally get pregnant under a R governor. That’s my feeeling sorry not sorry

O.M.G. Get a grip.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

Still throwing that tantrum, huh?

So irrational.

Keep digging. You'll lose even more in the next election cycle.

Yes, jerks will lash out in spite whenever they are called out for their bad behavior.

You haven't successfully called out anyone. You are just flailing. So not only are you incompetent, you are providing an object lesson in Democratic failure for the class.

I’ve been calling people out for their tantrums for over a year now.

Not successfully. You do seem to be doing a bang-up job of campaigning for the Republican party, though.

If you are measuring my success on whether I was able to stop the tantrums by calling them out, then it’s true that I failed. Tantrums continue today.

You might be more successful if you stop pretending everyone who disagrees with you is "having a tantrum." If you treat adults like they are two years old, you really should not be surprised if they vote against you.

I wonder if that poster is actually a Republican troll trying to get people to vote Republican.

+1 to it being a troll. They have the same line about tantrums on repeat and no real response to anyone that actually engages them.

DP. We've all witnessed the most idiotic liberal trolls on this site - but you're actually claiming that one is a "Republican troll"? That's some serious magical thinking. How about you address the *actual* trolls who have been posting the most vile, lie-ridden BS about Youngkin? That would actually be helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:When this whole thing began, I recall thinking that the blue states will be the last to shut down schools because they realize the role the schools play in helping the most vulnerable among us. And yet they did close and were the last to reopen.

I still can’t believe that.

Don’t forget that plenty of k-6 kids who are unvaccinated have been quarantined (some of this was unnecessary) this year. So still missing school.

Huh? More lower SES families selected virtual than the affluent families.

If you have the stats on this via link I would like to see.

APS 12/17 board meeting

Selection for return to school model when asked in December 2020:

Overall:
39% virtual
54% hybrid

Economically disadvantaged:
42% virtual
39% hybrid

Also they had thousands of families switch from hybrid to distance at that selection point as well. Don’t have demographic breakdown for that.

I don’t know if board doc link works but here it goes:
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=BUERSE6F161B

So I guess my point is - we should have let those 39% of economically disadvantaged have their hybrid option - we shouldn't have made those families do all virtual.

They did get hybrid (some ended up concurrent). This was the selection in Dec 2020 for return to school in early 2021.

I think they should have gotten it in August 2020 - fwiw. When Northam allowed it.

Ok. And? That was over a year ago.

You are a D and you voted for a Republican because you’re mad about what happened at the local level last year?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Thank you. Talk about a "whitewashing of facts."

Which part is wrong? None of it.

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Anonymous wrote:When this whole thing began, I recall thinking that the blue states will be the last to shut down schools because they realize the role the schools play in helping the most vulnerable among us. And yet they did close and were the last to reopen.

I still can’t believe that.

Don’t forget that plenty of k-6 kids who are unvaccinated have been quarantined (some of this was unnecessary) this year. So still missing school.

Huh? More lower SES families selected virtual than the affluent families.

If you have the stats on this via link I would like to see.

APS 12/17 board meeting

Selection for return to school model when asked in December 2020:

Overall:
39% virtual
54% hybrid

Economically disadvantaged:
42% virtual
39% hybrid

Also they had thousands of families switch from hybrid to distance at that selection point as well. Don’t have demographic breakdown for that.

I don’t know if board doc link works but here it goes:
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=BUERSE6F161B

So I guess my point is - we should have let those 39% of economically disadvantaged have their hybrid option - we shouldn't have made those families do all virtual.

They did get hybrid (some ended up concurrent). This was the selection in Dec 2020 for return to school in early 2021.

I think they should have gotten it in August 2020 - fwiw. When Northam allowed it.

Ok. And? That was over a year ago.

You are a D and you voted for a Republican because you’re mad about what happened at the local level last year?

I never said I voted for Youngkin. I just know other people who did - because they felt it was their safest bet for schools open if any future variant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exit polls showed that college educated women voters were over 60 percent for Terry! That explains why one will never meet a Republican woman in sone rich person parts of Fairfax or Arlington. I haven't seen data breaking this down by race or marital status. I need that data. Kind of dumb, unforced errors by Terry. Maybe at the end he was just thinking he needed to turn out the base.

Um... perhaps you've never met anyone from Great Falls or McLean or Leesburg? There are PLENTY of well-educated Republican women. That you claim not to know any is so telling.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually kind of thought that given the strong risk aversion that runs through nova, The Macker, with his cautious words about the pandemic,would have had the edge. I mean, folks are still masking outside.

We just took a Sunday drive out to Fauquier County where no one is masking outside and very few inside. It's like a different world - one of normalcy and sanity. Very refreshing.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m also a mom and not happy about schools being closed. But I think that was the best call during a freaking pandemic.

I want a plan to do over a year of school. Delay us graduation option. Improve facilities to prepare if this happens again. Improve vaccination production abilities.

All the education in the world won’t help my girls if they accidentally get pregnant under a R governor. That’s my feeeling sorry not sorry

Yo, who cancelled your sex Ed class? No one accidentally gets pregnant moron. It’s called sperm up the V and trust me that’s no accident. Teach your girls. Novel concept.

Birth control fails, dipsh*t.

^^ this is a good example of what’s wrong with the Ds.

Closing schools affected everyone.

Abortion? You claim nothing will help your daughters if they get accidentally pregnant under an R governor. That’s hysterical and an extreme overreaction. Even in Texas, your daughter can still get an abortion. Simply put your daughters on birth control and teach them to monitor their cycles. I assume you’d want your daughters to have an abortion sooner rather than later anyway. To vote based on the slim chance your daughters get pregnant while on birth control and cant manage to make it to the doctor within a few weeks, is hysterical.

Makes much more sense to vote based on an issue that will absolutely affect you - closing schools. Not some abstract event.

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This hysteria over abortion is really something. Especially, as other posters have pointed out, it's hysteria based on speculation, nothing more. Ridiculous people.

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Anonymous wrote:The toxicity of the far-left Democrats on these threads is the gift that keeps on giving for the Republicans. Can you imagine wanting any of these people with their zealous, obnoxious, hateful, condescending views as your neighbors, much less as your elected officials? It’s like they’ve been so brainwashed that they’ve lost any ability to engage in civil discourse.

I can. It’s called living in the city of Alexandria where the liberal elite is on steroids.

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Or the People's Republic of Arlington, Takoma Park, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they don’t have a diverse group says volumes. I have Black, Latina, even an Afghani American friend who all voted for Y. It’s not that hard to find.

Who doesn’t have a diverse group?

CNN

CNN has an agenda, through and through. They want everyone to think it’s White women who support Republicans. It’s their narrative. They don’t want to talk about the plethora of women of other races (me included) who are turned off by the ridiculous rhetoric of the current Democratic Party.

THIS. Could they be any more obvious? There are SO MANY POC who voted for Youngkin. And the posters who claim a vote for Youngkin is a vote against "equality" just sound like morons. Not one person has been able to cough up any examples of Youngkin being "against equality." It is utterly absurd to even suggest it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are moms with money so lumpy and devoid of life?

These are not poor people.

French moms with houses 1/3 the size are also 1/3 the size and have more joie d vivre

Something tells me you are lumpy and live in a tiny house. So much jealousy!

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It is school, just not the CRT stuff or vaccine or mask mandates. They’re angry that schools stayed closed for as long as they did and that the Democrats seemed dismissive of parents’ concerns about the resulting disruption and learning loss. I certainly understand their concerns but they do come off a bit self centered… like all that matters is them and their family, not the healthcare workers or teachers or the medically vulnerable. I think Democrats’ biggest mistake wasn’t necessarily closing schools, but for not showing more concern about the fallout now. Terry couldn’t even manage to fake it. He just didn’t connect with suburban women as much as he needed to.

Yes, we all know this is why Youngkin won suburban moms who previously voted Democratic. Why is this such big news to this Pamela lady? Everybody else knew this.

McAuliffe was just a boring, uninspiring candidate. If we'd had someone young, fresh, more progressive, they would have won.

You still don't seem to get it. There is now a backlash to your "progressive" movement. It's not selling.

+1 I don't want someone progressive anything. I want someone under 60, sane, fiscally smart and not morally repugnant. Youngkin fit that metric but I would have voted for a Democrat had that choice been available.

+100. I didn't vote because I am pro-choice and Youngkin is not. At this point, being pro-choice is the only thing that keeps me somewhat tethered to Dems. I don't want progressive, I don't want cancel culture, I want kids to be taught critical THINKING, and I want there to be freedom of speech.

DP. I am also pro-choice. However, I realized this wasn't the time to be a one-issue voter. I voted for Youngkin and have high hopes for the next four years.