Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A 4th woman who had an encounter with Brett Kavanaugh in the early 1980's - doesn't sound like anything physical, but it makes other stories more credible:

Elizabeth said she infrequently saw Brett Kavanaugh during this time – often at house parties. “He was cute. He was always nice,” she said. One night she ran across an apparently inebriated Brett Kavanaugh and things went differently then. Previously, he had always been nice to her. “ But not that night. He was drunk. He was obnoxious and crude. I had a friend with me and we left. His football buddies were laughing at us. Maybe they were laughing at him, but I didn’t take it that way and they didn’t do anything to keep him from being a jerk.”

From that point on Elizabeth said she steered clear of Kavanaugh and didn’t see any more sexually explicit behavior because, “I didn’t want to be around those guys.” She was not present at the party described by Ford – or doesn’t believe she was. She also said she never saw Kavanaugh assault anyone.

But, from her experience, she said she has no problem believing Dr. Ford’s allegations and said Ford should be heard without politics being involved. “I don’t think that’s possible today. I’m afraid for my daughter. How do we make this less politicized? People are criticizing her for coming forward, but she moved to California. He wasn’t in her life. Now he’s everywhere and could be part of the Supreme Court. It was just high school, but that kind of trauma lasts and no one should be judged for coming forward as she did. It took great courage. Maybe he genuinely doesn’t remember what happened because he blacked out. He deserves to be heard too. He shouldn’t be convicted without being heard either.”

https://mont.thesentinel.com/2018/09/26/bethesda-resident-describes-culture-of-privilege-leading-to-sexual-assault/

Read the entire article - BETHESDA RESIDENT DESCRIBES “CULTURE OF PRIVILEGE” LEADING TO EXPLOITATION AND ABUSE

I grew up in a similar community, in another East Coast city, around the same time. This rings true and I am surprised more people on here haven't said similar things as the person in this article did, given some of you must have grown up in affluent MoCo towns/schools around this time. Not about BK per se, but about what it was like. I got here in the 90s and I remember hearing lots of Beach Week stories, for example.
Cmon homegrown 80s Red Line folks, spill the beans already.

[Anonymous]

GOP doesn't investigate Russian attack on our democracy. They don't want to investigate accusations against Kavanaugh. But when it comes to the myth of widespread "voter fraud" or conspiracy theories on Benghazi, they're all in. It's about political power, not power of the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How come a guy who still has social calendars from 1982 can't produce credit card statements showing he bought $200K of Nats tickets?

Yeah, good point ha

How do you know he hasn’t? Just because YOU have not seen them doesn’t mean that the committee hasn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still feel bad for his wife. If I found out my husband was accused of being part of a group men drugging and raping girls and women, I would be sick, sick, sick.

Ashley Kavanaugh should be a loud voice for a FBI investigation. I would want to know the truth one way or another if I were her.

If you found out the your husband had been falsely accused of doing this, how would you feel?

You mean, after an investigation? I would be angry. But I would need to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL they're saying Swetnick should have gone to police! In 1981? At G-Prep? The raft of lawyers and money those boys had at their disposal would scare away the most determined public school girl. Kavanaugh's mother was a judge! She's being derided now in 2018! In 1981 she would have blasted into the ground if she tried to report those rich boys.

If the things she said happened actually happened, SOMEBODY would have gone to the police.

You must not have been a high schooler in 1982. At my university, someone tried to report a gang rape at a frat house in 1985 and all that happened was the frat house got a one-year suspension of their charter and the woman left college in a cloud of shame.

as she should have. nowadays the modern left absolves women of all responsibility for their conduct and too many men go along. Men have a responsibility to not drink to oblivion and so do women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL they're saying Swetnick should have gone to police! In 1981? At G-Prep? The raft of lawyers and money those boys had at their disposal would scare away the most determined public school girl. Kavanaugh's mother was a judge! She's being derided now in 2018! In 1981 she would have blasted into the ground if she tried to report those rich boys.

If the things she said happened actually happened, SOMEBODY would have gone to the police.

You must not have been a high schooler in 1982. At my university, someone tried to report a gang rape at a frat house in 1985 and all that happened was the frat house got a one-year suspension of their charter and the woman left college in a cloud of shame.

Yep. You're assuming because a police report wasn't filed, she didn't tell an authority figure. Schools cover up these things ALL. THE. TIME. They don't want a bad rap. They will often ask "what evidence do you have?" and the poor girl probably doesn't have any, because - let's all think about it - what evidence could she have? She doesn't have a video tape. There's no dead body because this isn't a murder. Even if she has bruises or marks or fluids, you'd tell her it was consensual. Any witnesses who didn't stop it are not on her side to begin with. So what difference does it make that she brings it up then or now? Nothing. You don't believe her either way.

[Anonymous]

Were camcorders out yet in the early 80's? I want video evidence of beach week shenanigans. My small town high school existence was boring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 4th woman who had an encounter with Brett Kavanaugh in the early 1980's - doesn't sound like anything physical, but it makes other stories more credible:

Elizabeth said she infrequently saw Brett Kavanaugh during this time – often at house parties. “He was cute. He was always nice,” she said. One night she ran across an apparently inebriated Brett Kavanaugh and things went differently then. Previously, he had always been nice to her. “ But not that night. He was drunk. He was obnoxious and crude. I had a friend with me and we left. His football buddies were laughing at us. Maybe they were laughing at him, but I didn’t take it that way and they didn’t do anything to keep him from being a jerk.”

From that point on Elizabeth said she steered clear of Kavanaugh and didn’t see any more sexually explicit behavior because, “I didn’t want to be around those guys.” She was not present at the party described by Ford – or doesn’t believe she was. She also said she never saw Kavanaugh assault anyone.

But, from her experience, she said she has no problem believing Dr. Ford’s allegations and said Ford should be heard without politics being involved. “I don’t think that’s possible today. I’m afraid for my daughter. How do we make this less politicized? People are criticizing her for coming forward, but she moved to California. He wasn’t in her life. Now he’s everywhere and could be part of the Supreme Court. It was just high school, but that kind of trauma lasts and no one should be judged for coming forward as she did. It took great courage. Maybe he genuinely doesn’t remember what happened because he blacked out. He deserves to be heard too. He shouldn’t be convicted without being heard either.”

https://mont.thesentinel.com/2018/09/26/bethesda-resident-describes-culture-of-privilege-leading-to-sexual-assault/

Read the entire article - BETHESDA RESIDENT DESCRIBES “CULTURE OF PRIVILEGE” LEADING TO EXPLOITATION AND ABUSE

I grew up in a similar community, in another East Coast city, around the same time. This rings true and I am surprised more people on here haven't said similar things as the person in this article did, given some of you must have grown up in affluent MoCo towns/schools around this time. Not about BK per se, but about what it was like. I got here in the 90s and I remember hearing lots of Beach Week stories, for example.
Cmon homegrown 80s Red Line folks, spill the beans already.

Plenty of us on this thread have talked about that, we keep getting shut down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Notice the terminology in the accusation:
Girls were given alcohol...
I'm sorry, but as a woman, does anyone here believe girls would go to these HS parties if there was no alcohol?

You people are a joke.

I'm not laughing.

Apparently the Holton yearbook was full of references to alcohol and sexual activity just like the G-town Prep yearbook. These girls were willing participants in the scene, not victims.

Jesus. Wanting to get drunk and have fun with your friends IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR PEOPLE TO RAPE YOU. Why is this difficult for people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL they're saying Swetnick should have gone to police! In 1981? At G-Prep? The raft of lawyers and money those boys had at their disposal would scare away the most determined public school girl. Kavanaugh's mother was a judge! She's being derided now in 2018! In 1981 she would have blasted into the ground if she tried to report those rich boys.

If the things she said happened actually happened, SOMEBODY would have gone to the police.

You must not have been a high schooler in 1982. At my university, someone tried to report a gang rape at a frat house in 1985 and all that happened was the frat house got a one-year suspension of their charter and the woman left college in a cloud of shame.

as she should have. nowadays the modern left absolves women of all responsibility for their conduct and too many men go along. Men have a responsibility to not drink to oblivion and so do women.

Women who report gang rape should leave in a cloud of shame! Modern Republicans, folks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 4th woman who had an encounter with Brett Kavanaugh in the early 1980's - doesn't sound like anything physical, but it makes other stories more credible:

Elizabeth said she infrequently saw Brett Kavanaugh during this time – often at house parties. “He was cute. He was always nice,” she said. One night she ran across an apparently inebriated Brett Kavanaugh and things went differently then. Previously, he had always been nice to her. “ But not that night. He was drunk. He was obnoxious and crude. I had a friend with me and we left. His football buddies were laughing at us. Maybe they were laughing at him, but I didn’t take it that way and they didn’t do anything to keep him from being a jerk.”

From that point on Elizabeth said she steered clear of Kavanaugh and didn’t see any more sexually explicit behavior because, “I didn’t want to be around those guys.” She was not present at the party described by Ford – or doesn’t believe she was. She also said she never saw Kavanaugh assault anyone.

But, from her experience, she said she has no problem believing Dr. Ford’s allegations and said Ford should be heard without politics being involved. “I don’t think that’s possible today. I’m afraid for my daughter. How do we make this less politicized? People are criticizing her for coming forward, but she moved to California. He wasn’t in her life. Now he’s everywhere and could be part of the Supreme Court. It was just high school, but that kind of trauma lasts and no one should be judged for coming forward as she did. It took great courage. Maybe he genuinely doesn’t remember what happened because he blacked out. He deserves to be heard too. He shouldn’t be convicted without being heard either.”

https://mont.thesentinel.com/2018/09/26/bethesda-resident-describes-culture-of-privilege-leading-to-sexual-assault/

Read the entire article - BETHESDA RESIDENT DESCRIBES “CULTURE OF PRIVILEGE” LEADING TO EXPLOITATION AND ABUSE

I grew up in a similar community, in another East Coast city, around the same time. This rings true and I am surprised more people on here haven't said similar things as the person in this article did, given some of you must have grown up in affluent MoCo towns/schools around this time. Not about BK per se, but about what it was like. I got here in the 90s and I remember hearing lots of Beach Week stories, for example.
Cmon homegrown 80s Red Line folks, spill the beans already.

Beach week was crazy and definitely sexy, but I never saw gangs of boys waiting their turn to rape a girl. That sounds so messed up and awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 4th woman who had an encounter with Brett Kavanaugh in the early 1980's - doesn't sound like anything physical, but it makes other stories more credible:

Elizabeth said she infrequently saw Brett Kavanaugh during this time – often at house parties. “He was cute. He was always nice,” she said. One night she ran across an apparently inebriated Brett Kavanaugh and things went differently then. Previously, he had always been nice to her. “ But not that night. He was drunk. He was obnoxious and crude. I had a friend with me and we left. His football buddies were laughing at us. Maybe they were laughing at him, but I didn’t take it that way and they didn’t do anything to keep him from being a jerk.”

From that point on Elizabeth said she steered clear of Kavanaugh and didn’t see any more sexually explicit behavior because, “I didn’t want to be around those guys.” She was not present at the party described by Ford – or doesn’t believe she was. She also said she never saw Kavanaugh assault anyone.

But, from her experience, she said she has no problem believing Dr. Ford’s allegations and said Ford should be heard without politics being involved. “I don’t think that’s possible today. I’m afraid for my daughter. How do we make this less politicized? People are criticizing her for coming forward, but she moved to California. He wasn’t in her life. Now he’s everywhere and could be part of the Supreme Court. It was just high school, but that kind of trauma lasts and no one should be judged for coming forward as she did. It took great courage. Maybe he genuinely doesn’t remember what happened because he blacked out. He deserves to be heard too. He shouldn’t be convicted without being heard either.”

https://mont.thesentinel.com/2018/09/26/bethesda-resident-describes-culture-of-privilege-leading-to-sexual-assault/

Read the entire article - BETHESDA RESIDENT DESCRIBES “CULTURE OF PRIVILEGE” LEADING TO EXPLOITATION AND ABUSE

I grew up in a similar community, in another East Coast city, around the same time. This rings true and I am surprised more people on here haven't said similar things as the person in this article did, given some of you must have grown up in affluent MoCo towns/schools around this time. Not about BK per se, but about what it was like. I got here in the 90s and I remember hearing lots of Beach Week stories, for example.
Cmon homegrown 80s Red Line folks, spill the beans already.

Plenty of us on this thread have talked about that, we keep getting shut down.

And, this is why you believe the allegations, even if they are false. Because YOU have experienced such things. Because it “rings true” to YOU.
Forget that there is no evidence of these allegations, since you can remember these “stories,” this one MUST be true.

[Anonymous]

Though I find Ford’s account credible (and don’t want Kavanaugh on SC), Swetnick is suspect. Makes no sense that she was at high school parties and beach week when she was in college. Plus, she knew drinks were being spiked and gang rapes going on but she went back to 10 parties? Swetnick owes MD Comptroller $62K, presumably in back taxes. I don’t understand how she has been able to keep her security clearance. Things aren’t making sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL they're saying Swetnick should have gone to police! In 1981? At G-Prep? The raft of lawyers and money those boys had at their disposal would scare away the most determined public school girl. Kavanaugh's mother was a judge! She's being derided now in 2018! In 1981 she would have blasted into the ground if she tried to report those rich boys.

If the things she said happened actually happened, SOMEBODY would have gone to the police.

Really? What happens at G-Prep, stays at G-Prep. These kinds of acts are exactly the sort of thing that they circle the wagons for. I went to a so-called top 3 in the late 70s early 80's. There were parties at HUGE homes in Potomac while parents were off globe trotting. There would be wings of the house that you would never see unless you went searching through a 5,000 sq ft house. A girl could be gang raped in one wing and believe me, only those involved would even know it happened. You have NO idea if you didn't live through those times as I did. It would have been intimidating as hell to be at those parties if you weren't at a similar socio-economic level.

[Anonymous]

In light of the newest story describing gang rapes, BK's high school buddies have got to be hoping the dude is derailed tomorrow because this tidal wave is going to just keep on picking up people. Thanks to BK offering up his hilarious 1982 calendar, we now have more names....names like Judge, Tom, PJ, Bernie and Squid. Wonder which ones were rapists and which ones weren't.