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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

What age group are you talking about?

I've mostly seen U9, but I understand it's true in other age groups, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

What age group are you talking about?

I've mostly seen U9, but I understand it's true in other age groups, too.

That's just flat-out wrong. The U9 boys are almost always smaller than their opponents and don't play rough at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

What age group are you talking about?

I've mostly seen U9, but I understand it's true in other age groups, too.

That's just flat-out wrong. The U9 boys are almost always smaller than their opponents and don't play rough at all.

Smaller, yes. And they're not injuring anybody. Just a lot of shoves in the back.

I'll grant that we may have had poor refs in the games I saw them play. Some refs in this area don't call squat at U9. They strut around the middle of the field, blow the whistle at the end of each half and take a nice paycheck. Most are better than that.

Speaking of FPYC -- what's up with Joga now? Are they no longer playing under the FPYC banner at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

What age group are you talking about?

I've mostly seen U9, but I understand it's true in other age groups, too.

That's just flat-out wrong. The U9 boys are almost always smaller than their opponents and don't play rough at all.

Smaller, yes. And they're not injuring anybody. Just a lot of shoves in the back.

I'll grant that we may have had poor refs in the games I saw them play. Some refs in this area don't call squat at U9. They strut around the middle of the field, blow the whistle at the end of each half and take a nice paycheck. Most are better than that.

Speaking of FPYC -- what's up with Joga now? Are they no longer playing under the FPYC banner at all?

That's correct. They no longer have a formal relationship with FPYC, though many FPYC players still do extra training there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

NVSC also does not seem to have any rules regarding parents coaching the kids from the sidelines during games. Several travel games I have witnessed parents constant yelling at the kids what to do with the ball and complaining about everything under the sun. Would think twice about sending kid to that club unless you enjoy chaos.

I regret to inform you of reality: this is at every club, every age group, every level, all to varying degrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

NVSC also does not seem to have any rules regarding parents coaching the kids from the sidelines during games. Several travel games I have witnessed parents constant yelling at the kids what to do with the ball and complaining about everything under the sun. Would think twice about sending kid to that club unless you enjoy chaos.

Furthermore, the younger and lower level the age group, the more obnoxious the parents (probably because they don't really know anything about soccer).



I regret to inform you of reality: this is at every club, every age group, every level, all to varying degrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

NVSC also does not seem to have any rules regarding parents coaching the kids from the sidelines during games. Several travel games I have witnessed parents constant yelling at the kids what to do with the ball and complaining about everything under the sun. Would think twice about sending kid to that club unless you enjoy chaos.

I regret to inform you of reality: this is at every club, every age group, every level, all to varying degrees.

Furthermore, the younger and lower level the age group, the more obnoxious the parents (probably because they don't really know anything about soccer).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

NVSC also does not seem to have any rules regarding parents coaching the kids from the sidelines during games. Several travel games I have witnessed parents constant yelling at the kids what to do with the ball and complaining about everything under the sun. Would think twice about sending kid to that club unless you enjoy chaos.

I regret to inform you of reality: this is at every club, every age group, every level, all to varying degrees.

Maybe so, but if I'm at a tournament one day in the future and someone starts throwing flares onto a U10 field, first thought through my mind will be... NVSC must be playing today.

[Anonymous]

Hahaa I get it about NVSC! You're saying that because they are mostly Hispanic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

NVSC also does not seem to have any rules regarding parents coaching the kids from the sidelines during games. Several travel games I have witnessed parents constant yelling at the kids what to do with the ball and complaining about everything under the sun. Would think twice about sending kid to that club unless you enjoy chaos.

I regret to inform you of reality: this is at every club, every age group, every level, all to varying degrees.

Furthermore, the younger and lower level the age group, the more obnoxious the parents (probably because they don't really know anything about soccer).

The higher up you go the bigger the assholes the parents are.

The D team sideline of my son's U10 has 3 D1 former male players, 1 D1 former female player and a former Professional.

The douchey ones with kids on the top team in our age group are very concerned at 8-10 about team placement. The ones that played know it's not important until older.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

NVSC also does not seem to have any rules regarding parents coaching the kids from the sidelines during games. Several travel games I have witnessed parents constant yelling at the kids what to do with the ball and complaining about everything under the sun. Would think twice about sending kid to that club unless you enjoy chaos.

I regret to inform you of reality: this is at every club, every age group, every level, all to varying degrees.

Furthermore, the younger and lower level the age group, the more obnoxious the parents (probably because they don't really know anything about soccer).

The higher up you go the bigger the assholes the parents are.

The D team sideline of my son's U10 has 3 D1 former male players, 1 D1 former female player and a former Professional.

The douchey ones with kids on the top team in our age group are very concerned at 8-10 about team placement. The ones that played know it's not important until older.

U14 and above, in the higher-level teams, the parents are mostly well-behaved and knowledgeable about the sport, and/or at least travel soccer.
Younger and lower-level teams, parents are obnoxious, rude, and even vulgar, and the worst sideline coaches! I am only saying this as a seasoned veteran soccer parent of both travel and REC soccer. parent after years of observation in many locations . Whether at U15 or U5, do you REALLY need to tell your kid to "kick the ball?" Has a ref ever changed a call because the parents disagreed with it? Does a mom really need to run onto a field in the middle of a game with her camera to show the ref the "foul" she took a picture of? This season in particular, I have seen the worst behavior from parents I have ever seen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The opposing coach shoved our coach. A dad was sent to his car by the ref.

Which club was this?

NVSC just seems to have a clubwide love of "physical" play. When a ref actually started calling their U9s (not top team) on it, the coach started yelling, "Call it both ways, ref!" If wasn't GOING both ways, jerk.

I've even seen at rec level. They had an All-Star team that did it all -- forearm shivers to the back of the head included. On the rare cases the ref blew the whistle, the kid kicked the ball away.

Granted -- this is also the ref's fault. I once had a ref tell me he would never give a yellow card at U9. Some coaches and players will take perverse advantage of that stance.

FPYC also loves to rough it up. Calverton, too, but they mostly stick with legal shoulder charges.

NVSC also does not seem to have any rules regarding parents coaching the kids from the sidelines during games. Several travel games I have witnessed parents constant yelling at the kids what to do with the ball and complaining about everything under the sun. Would think twice about sending kid to that club unless you enjoy chaos.

I regret to inform you of reality: this is at every club, every age group, every level, all to varying degrees.

Furthermore, the younger and lower level the age group, the more obnoxious the parents (probably because they don't really know anything about soccer).

The higher up you go the bigger the assholes the parents are.

The D team sideline of my son's U10 has 3 D1 former male players, 1 D1 former female player and a former Professional.

The douchey ones with kids on the top team in our age group are very concerned at 8-10 about team placement. The ones that played know it's not important until older.

U14 and above, in the higher-level teams, the parents are mostly well-behaved and knowledgeable about the sport, and/or at least travel soccer.
Younger and lower-level teams, parents are obnoxious, rude, and even vulgar, and the worst sideline coaches! I am only saying this as a seasoned veteran soccer parent of both travel and REC soccer. parent after years of observation in many locations . Whether at U15 or U5, do you REALLY need to tell your kid to "kick the ball?" Has a ref ever changed a call because the parents disagreed with it? Does a mom really need to run onto a field in the middle of a game with her camera to show the ref the "foul" she took a picture of? This season in particular, I have seen the worst behavior from parents I have ever seen.

You have got to be kidding me. Please tell me you made that up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question raised in the VYS thread that's better-suited for this one:

How much do travel coaches make?

It would depend on the coach, position, team, and club. For a single team at a centrally located large club, probably 8-12k/yr for a small sides team, up to 16 (possibly as high as 20k) for a full sided team. DA/ECNL may be higher. TD likely makes 80-100k at a larger club. It depends on the club and how they structure compensation for teams, winters, camps, club training, etc, and how many other mouths feed off of it (assistant coaches, TD, asst TD, etc). It's a lucrative side gig, but a hard life for those that do it full time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

U14 and above, in the higher-level teams, the parents are mostly well-behaved and knowledgeable about the sport, and/or at least travel soccer.
Younger and lower-level teams, parents are obnoxious, rude, and even vulgar, and the worst sideline coaches! I am only saying this as a seasoned veteran soccer parent of both travel and REC soccer. parent after years of observation in many locations . Whether at U15 or U5, do you REALLY need to tell your kid to "kick the ball?" Has a ref ever changed a call because the parents disagreed with it? Does a mom really need to run onto a field in the middle of a game with her camera to show the ref the "foul" she took a picture of? This season in particular, I have seen the worst behavior from parents I have ever seen.

You have got to be kidding me. Please tell me you made that up.



Don't I wish. Nope, it really happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

U14 and above, in the higher-level teams, the parents are mostly well-behaved and knowledgeable about the sport, and/or at least travel soccer.
Younger and lower-level teams, parents are obnoxious, rude, and even vulgar, and the worst sideline coaches! I am only saying this as a seasoned veteran soccer parent of both travel and REC soccer. parent after years of observation in many locations . Whether at U15 or U5, do you REALLY need to tell your kid to "kick the ball?" Has a ref ever changed a call because the parents disagreed with it? Does a mom really need to run onto a field in the middle of a game with her camera to show the ref the "foul" she took a picture of? This season in particular, I have seen the worst behavior from parents I have ever seen.

You have got to be kidding me. Please tell me you made that up.

Don't I wish. Nope, it really happened.

Please tell us more about this. What was the reaction from the ref, kids, coaches, and other parents? Was her husband there? What did her child do? That's among the most humiliating things I've heard of a parent doing. Sounds like a scene from the Diary of a Wimpy Kid movies.