ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to confirm MLSN is switching to 8/1 starting next year. My son’s coach mentioned it to me and some other parents before the game. I don’t think the real academy will switch but he didn’t mention them. So I have no idea.

Can you find out if your team hates kids with August birthdays or if they are stupid instead?

Just confirmed they actually love Aug birth month kids as long as they are big, fast, and/or skilled. Same with a kid born in any month of the year.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

I’m the poster you quoted and I agree with you 100%.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

For youngers maybe

For olders probabaly not especially for a top team. The olders trapped players will have the option to do whatever they want. This is because clubs dont want to lose these players. Also because they might be working with college coaches and they dont want to start over with a new team. But littles parents and clubs that don't matter have no idea about any of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

For youngers maybe

For olders probabaly not especially for a top team. The olders trapped players will have the option to do whatever they want. This is because clubs dont want to lose these players. Also because they might be working with college coaches and they dont want to start over with a new team. But littles parents and clubs that don't matter have no idea about any of this.

College coaches don’t care about kids changing teams… at all. Happens all the time.

Top players who are misaligned probably will have an option to play with their correct grade sophomore/junior year. That will be a very small percentage of kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

For youngers maybe

For olders probabaly not especially for a top team. The olders trapped players will have the option to do whatever they want. This is because clubs dont want to lose these players. Also because they might be working with college coaches and they dont want to start over with a new team. But littles parents and clubs that don't matter have no idea about any of this.

College coaches don’t care about kids changing teams… at all. Happens all the time.

Top players who are misaligned probably will have an option to play with their correct grade sophomore/junior year. That will be a very small percentage of kids.

You have no idea what you're talking about. College coaches 100% care which team and level players are playing at. Also players dont want to risk losing out on a scholorship just because a club wants to win games that dont matter anymore.

You really have no clue how things work for olders or top teams. I feel sorry for anyone that listens to you.

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Anonymous wrote:This should be locked too. What could there possibly be left to say?

Seriously!!

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Anonymous wrote:This should be locked too. What could there possibly be left to say?

Seriously!!

I'm waiting to see when and how clubs implement this. Curious if tryouts are handled differently, earlier etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

For youngers maybe

For olders probabaly not especially for a top team. The olders trapped players will have the option to do whatever they want. This is because clubs dont want to lose these players. Also because they might be working with college coaches and they dont want to start over with a new team. But littles parents and clubs that don't matter have no idea about any of this.

College coaches don’t care about kids changing teams… at all. Happens all the time.

Top players who are misaligned probably will have an option to play with their correct grade sophomore/junior year. That will be a very small percentage of kids.

You have no idea what you're talking about. College coaches 100% care which team and level players are playing at. Also players dont want to risk losing out on a scholorship just because a club wants to win games that dont matter anymore.

You really have no clue how things work for olders or top teams. I feel sorry for anyone that listens to you.

I didn’t say they don’t care if kids change levels. I said they don’t care if kids change teams. And they don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

For youngers maybe

For olders probabaly not especially for a top team. The olders trapped players will have the option to do whatever they want. This is because clubs dont want to lose these players. Also because they might be working with college coaches and they dont want to start over with a new team. But littles parents and clubs that don't matter have no idea about any of this.

College coaches don’t care about kids changing teams… at all. Happens all the time.

Top players who are misaligned probably will have an option to play with their correct grade sophomore/junior year. That will be a very small percentage of kids.

You have no idea what you're talking about. College coaches 100% care which team and level players are playing at. Also players dont want to risk losing out on a scholorship just because a club wants to win games that dont matter anymore.

You really have no clue how things work for olders or top teams. I feel sorry for anyone that listens to you.

I didn’t say they don’t care if kids change levels. I said they don’t care if kids change teams. And they don’t.

You are ridiculious.

How exactly would you change teams without changing levels?

I'll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry all- I’m still not seeing a concrete response here, I apologize if this has been settled. Are boys moving to the SY cutoff next year too? ECNL yes? Maybe? MLSNEXT yes/no/undecided?
Does anyone actually know or is it still just speculation?
Thanks

ALL GIRLS soccer leagues and organizations have confirmed moving to SY (USYS, USCS, GA, DPL, ECNL, AYSO, NAL, NPL …)

Regarding BOYS also ALL soccer and leagues organizations have announced moving to SY with the exception of MLS NEXT.

There is a lot of talk and gossip about MLS NEXT moving to SY but it is still unconfirmed.

MLS1 will switch to SY because they either host or play a lot of tournaments. It is a big business. Only MLSN Academy stay in BY. They have already played up this season and have been beaten badly.

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Anonymous wrote:Our team is playing the new MLS Next Academy U14 (2012).

Some of our rivals are using 2011 players (tall and big, so bio banding does not apply).

We know those players because they are of the same city area (Milwaukee, WI).

Is it allowed at MLS Next Academy to play down?

Yes. Biobanding is designed to be based on size compared to peers but it’s not enforced and teams bioband for whatever reason they want. In our experience the age ranges at mls academies are pretty fluid and kids will float back and forth. Most commonly up but can also bioband down. U14 doesn’t report wins/losses either.

We have 3 09 biobanding players. They are bigger and stronger than our average B10 players. They take 3 starter positions. Considering MLS Academy now plays up and gets beaten. Our team is aiming not only for the playoffs, but the final 8 or even the final 4. Think about the 3 B10 parents, whose sons' game time gets cut short.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

For youngers maybe

For olders probabaly not especially for a top team. The olders trapped players will have the option to do whatever they want. This is because clubs dont want to lose these players. Also because they might be working with college coaches and they dont want to start over with a new team. But littles parents and clubs that don't matter have no idea about any of this.

College coaches don’t care about kids changing teams… at all. Happens all the time.

Top players who are misaligned probably will have an option to play with their correct grade sophomore/junior year. That will be a very small percentage of kids.

You have no idea what you're talking about. College coaches 100% care which team and level players are playing at. Also players dont want to risk losing out on a scholorship just because a club wants to win games that dont matter anymore.

You really have no clue how things work for olders or top teams. I feel sorry for anyone that listens to you.

I didn’t say they don’t care if kids change levels. I said they don’t care if kids change teams. And they don’t.

You are ridiculious.

How exactly would you change teams without changing levels?

I'll wait.

We have quite a few ecnl clubs in our area. Our market is over saturated with mlsnext clubs. It’s fairly common to have kids move between clubs within the same league, it’s all about getting on the field to showcase yourself come recruiting years.

All the best in your crusade against August birthdays.

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

For youngers maybe

For olders probabaly not especially for a top team. The olders trapped players will have the option to do whatever they want. This is because clubs dont want to lose these players. Also because they might be working with college coaches and they dont want to start over with a new team. But littles parents and clubs that don't matter have no idea about any of this.

Trapped olders will definitely want to go down a year if they want to be recruited. Competitive areas will see real turnover on top teams, even before the ECNL push to put kids on age asap. And then those top trapped ECRL players on olders teams are going to be looking to move. No one is safe!

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Anonymous wrote:Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?

Yes, I believe so.

A better answer is no

MLS1 will go SY, but cheaters can still use biobanding to continue to play down to stay in MLS1.

When MLS Next teams use biobanding as a way to play down for wins then sure I agree its cheating.

But if you haven't noticed MLS N has tried hiding younger player scores in multiple ways. The reason they're doing this is because MLS N is setup for identifying and developing talent so they can play professionally. In this environment biobanding down isnt a good thing. Its a last resort for players about to be dropped.

Leagues like ECNL and GA and whatever are setup for getting players into college. In this environment playing down cant be accepted because recruiters are only looking at players for 1-2 years. Also when they're recruiting the first thing they want to know is which year will this player graduate. After this is established they'll look at other attributes and rank the player accordingly.

The person thats so passionate about playing down is likely a private school parent that bought into the nonsense that they can hold their kid back in school so they can be the biggest and oldest. Surpirse! Soccer doesnt work that way. Go find a different sport. Oh and btw private schools want you to regrade your kid because they make and extra year or two of tuition this way. Why find more students when you can just make the current students stay in school longer.

No one wants kids to be a reclass. We are just calling you out for thinking an Aug kid is playing down.

Also you don’t know what you’re talking about my daughter goes to private school and not 1 girl she went to school with from kindergarten to now 9th grade is held back actually it’s much more common for girls to start school early. So they are young for their grade. Will be 16 to start their senior year.

Go outside and breath some fresh air. The grad year monster isn’t real. You’re going to be okay.

It's funny you write in such absolutes.

You think you know everything but whatever you write shows how close minded and incorrect you are.

Some people will just have to learn the hard way that theyre not wanted. For you it will happen at tryouts next season.

The grad monster is a figment of your imagination. Just like the villainous August girl that went to school on time is your bogeyman.

What you dont understand because you're a littles parent or playing on a team with no chance of being recruited to play in college is that playing down a grade is a trap. Choosing to play down for wins is not goid you think you're doing some great thing but you're not. Adversity and being challenged are what develops a player. The longer Aug birthdays play down the harder it will be to play on a team with players their age. Eventually you'll be forced to do something. Because you chose to play down what you'll do is hold your kid back in school. This is because its easier and it validates your stupid decisions. Leagues and clubs dont want to be the reason why children are held back in school this is why the top clubs wont let Aug players play down a grade. Since you are hard headed I'm sure you'll shop around and find some kind of land of misfit toys team to play on and they'll be terrible. Instead of wasting all your time trying to play down just play on the B team with players your kids grade. Then work your way to the A team. This is the correct pathway.

This is just nonsense word salad. Aug players will play their correct age group just like Jan players do now. It will be no different. It was not different before (pre 2016), why would it suddenly change now? Every top club will try and collect as many early fall birthdays as possible for each age group. No one is gonna give a shit about what you’re saying here.

When top clubs publish their age groupings for tryouts in the spring they will all be 8/1-7/31.

I know you can’t stop posting for some reason, and clearly you have some sort of internal issue going on, but take a break. Move on to a different argument or something. Find a different angle to cry about. This is getting old.

No, just like back in 2016 Aug birthdays will be told to play on a team with players their grade not on the team with players a grade below them.

For the exact reasons PP listed.

Dude, I know this is you. Just stop. Aug birthdays played in their SY grouping back then. I know because I was there and coached. No one, at any large club, cared what grade a player was in. They only cared if they were eligible for an age group. That’s it. We didn’t even collect what grade players were in!

Oh so now you're larping as a coach.

I was there as well and top teams would not let players play down a grade. This is because players and teams are an investment. It takes time to develop a winning club. Shortcuts like playing down dont work long term.

What club are you at the values long term investment? Clubs want to win now and value $$$. The only clubs making money by investing long term in players are mls academies.

All clubs will push the vast majority of kids to their new age groups because that’s what’s best for business.
A club who has a top ranked team nationally or locally won’t want to risk that by putting their noses up to Aug to Dec players if it means it will help their teams win which will help the bring in new players from outside clubs which will ultimately make them money so the cycle can continue.

For youngers maybe

For olders probabaly not especially for a top team. The olders trapped players will have the option to do whatever they want. This is because clubs dont want to lose these players. Also because they might be working with college coaches and they dont want to start over with a new team. But littles parents and clubs that don't matter have no idea about any of this.

College coaches don’t care about kids changing teams… at all. Happens all the time.

Top players who are misaligned probably will have an option to play with their correct grade sophomore/junior year. That will be a very small percentage of kids.

You have no idea what you're talking about. College coaches 100% care which team and level players are playing at. Also players dont want to risk losing out on a scholorship just because a club wants to win games that dont matter anymore.

You really have no clue how things work for olders or top teams. I feel sorry for anyone that listens to you.

I didn’t say they don’t care if kids change levels. I said they don’t care if kids change teams. And they don’t.

You are ridiculious.

How exactly would you change teams without changing levels?

I'll wait.

We have quite a few ecnl clubs in our area. Our market is over saturated with mlsnext clubs. It’s fairly common to have kids move between clubs within the same league, it’s all about getting on the field to showcase yourself come recruiting years.

All the best in your crusade against August birthdays.

Makes no sense. So now you're argueing that if players that are being recruited want to stay at the level they're playing to maintain currently defined expectations with college coaches that they change clubs? 🤔