Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reminder Blake, Ryan, and Taylor all have zero higher education. They really are this stupid. What we’ve been sold about their abilities and intellect is fake marketing. There is no there there. There dullard schemers with arrested development.

And where are Justin's and Jamey's college degree from, pray tell.

[Anonymous]

I bet Ryan is having a nervous breakdown over this recent leak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the giant document dump is confusing people. People are reading things that Blake, Justin, and others said in texts and emails that are coming out now in the unsealing, and conflating that with arguments being made in court. They are the same thing.

Blake told friends in private texts/emails that she "basically" had to direct the movie because she felt Justin was so incompetent. But that is not the argument she's making in legal filings. At no point in any of her filings is she contending that, actually, she directed the movie. It's just something she said to friends. Now, depending on whose side you're on here, you might view those claims as either (1) evidence that Blake had a lot of power on the movie and therefore was not an employee and also could not have been harassed, OR (2) evidence that Justin was so incompetent that Blake felt she had no choice but to take over.

But it's actually not good evidence of either. People say all kinds of stuff in communications with friends. None of these were formal work communications. I tend to think the texts with Taylor and Matt Damon, the email to Affleck, etc., as fun as they are to discuss, will have little to no bearing on the case. Most likely won't even be brought in at trial, and those that are will mostly be brought just to show something like "state of mind" not to establish Blake's employment status.

The PGA letter is obviously different, that's actual evidence of Blake's position within the film. But that one actually makes me laugh because it puts both sides in a bind.

The pro-Lively folks want to argue that (1) Justin was incompetent and Blake had no choice but to take over the movie, making the PGA letter truthful and her PGA credit merited, AND (2) that Blake was just an employee of the movie and Justin/Jamey were very powerful and harassed her. See how that's hard to argue?

But the pro-Baldoni folks wind up in a similar bind because they want the opposite. They want to argue that (1) Blake didn't deserve he PGA credit and didn't actually do the stuff she claims to have done in the PGA letter and was not as instrumental in the making of the movie as she claims, AND (2) that she was too powerful and had too much control over the set to have been harassed by Justin and Jamey.

It's just funny. Everyone sucks here, and everyone is a hypocrite!

PGA letter is puffery, just like all of Jed and TAG's references to a team who can boost algorithmically placed whatevers, when no team exists, and they have no idea how to do that or what it means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reminder Blake, Ryan, and Taylor all have zero higher education. They really are this stupid. What we’ve been sold about their abilities and intellect is fake marketing. There is no there there. There dullard schemers with arrested development.

And where are Justin's and Jamey's college degree from, pray tell.

Both went to college. Justin didn’t finish. Dropped out for acting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few pages back someone was claiming that Colleen Hoover never wanted Justin Baldoni to play Ryle and that it was a decision that was sprung on her. Huh?

This is an email she sent Justin in 2019:

"Have you given any thought to whether you would want an acting role in this? Say, maybe, Ryle? I could see it."

Oh, don’t get me started on the rewriting history with Colleen on this thread. People are painting it as if 2019 Colleen Hoover was a nobody self publisher, even though she’d sold millions and millions of books, more than 99% of writers ever will. She didn’t sell to Justin on a whim. They had lengthy discussions and yes, she asked him to play Ryle and he was hesitant with directing and acting.

She had been a self published author and had done fine, but not great. I think S&S might have picked her up, but still just did fine. BookTok made her explode, then she had an entire backlist of books that then also started selling like crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reminder Blake, Ryan, and Taylor all have zero higher education. They really are this stupid. What we’ve been sold about their abilities and intellect is fake marketing. There is no there there. They are dullard schemers with arrested development.

And where are Justin's and Jamey's college degree from, pray tell.

Pray tell what deranged conspiracy Baldoni cooked up. Justin's communications reveal he's arguably cringy but authentic. The persons busted being immature psychopathic scam artists are Lying Lively and Scamming Swift.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the giant document dump is confusing people. People are reading things that Blake, Justin, and others said in texts and emails that are coming out now in the unsealing, and conflating that with arguments being made in court. They are the same thing.

Blake told friends in private texts/emails that she "basically" had to direct the movie because she felt Justin was so incompetent. But that is not the argument she's making in legal filings. At no point in any of her filings is she contending that, actually, she directed the movie. It's just something she said to friends. Now, depending on whose side you're on here, you might view those claims as either (1) evidence that Blake had a lot of power on the movie and therefore was not an employee and also could not have been harassed, OR (2) evidence that Justin was so incompetent that Blake felt she had no choice but to take over.

But it's actually not good evidence of either. People say all kinds of stuff in communications with friends. None of these were formal work communications. I tend to think the texts with Taylor and Matt Damon, the email to Affleck, etc., as fun as they are to discuss, will have little to no bearing on the case. Most likely won't even be brought in at trial, and those that are will mostly be brought just to show something like "state of mind" not to establish Blake's employment status.

The PGA letter is obviously different, that's actual evidence of Blake's position within the film. But that one actually makes me laugh because it puts both sides in a bind.

The pro-Lively folks want to argue that (1) Justin was incompetent and Blake had no choice but to take over the movie, making the PGA letter truthful and her PGA credit merited, AND (2) that Blake was just an employee of the movie and Justin/Jamey were very powerful and harassed her. See how that's hard to argue?

But the pro-Baldoni folks wind up in a similar bind because they want the opposite. They want to argue that (1) Blake didn't deserve he PGA credit and didn't actually do the stuff she claims to have done in the PGA letter and was not as instrumental in the making of the movie as she claims, AND (2) that she was too powerful and had too much control over the set to have been harassed by Justin and Jamey.

It's just funny. Everyone sucks here, and everyone is a hypocrite!

Read her PGA letter and get back to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the giant document dump is confusing people. People are reading things that Blake, Justin, and others said in texts and emails that are coming out now in the unsealing, and conflating that with arguments being made in court. They are the same thing.

Blake told friends in private texts/emails that she "basically" had to direct the movie because she felt Justin was so incompetent. But that is not the argument she's making in legal filings. At no point in any of her filings is she contending that, actually, she directed the movie. It's just something she said to friends. Now, depending on whose side you're on here, you might view those claims as either (1) evidence that Blake had a lot of power on the movie and therefore was not an employee and also could not have been harassed, OR (2) evidence that Justin was so incompetent that Blake felt she had no choice but to take over.

But it's actually not good evidence of either. People say all kinds of stuff in communications with friends. None of these were formal work communications. I tend to think the texts with Taylor and Matt Damon, the email to Affleck, etc., as fun as they are to discuss, will have little to no bearing on the case. Most likely won't even be brought in at trial, and those that are will mostly be brought just to show something like "state of mind" not to establish Blake's employment status.

The PGA letter is obviously different, that's actual evidence of Blake's position within the film. But that one actually makes me laugh because it puts both sides in a bind.

The pro-Lively folks want to argue that (1) Justin was incompetent and Blake had no choice but to take over the movie, making the PGA letter truthful and her PGA credit merited, AND (2) that Blake was just an employee of the movie and Justin/Jamey were very powerful and harassed her. See how that's hard to argue?

But the pro-Baldoni folks wind up in a similar bind because they want the opposite. They want to argue that (1) Blake didn't deserve he PGA credit and didn't actually do the stuff she claims to have done in the PGA letter and was not as instrumental in the making of the movie as she claims, AND (2) that she was too powerful and had too much control over the set to have been harassed by Justin and Jamey.

It's just funny. Everyone sucks here, and everyone is a hypocrite!

You are way over simplifying here. The people on Baldoni side are arguing that she used her power to take credit for the movie. She clearly did not do any work on the movie before production, which is a huge lift, she came onto the set and and her every demand was met, but that didn’t mean that she did any work. She didn’t want to go to a wardrobe fitting so she had them come to the house. She didn’t want to film in Boston so she made them move it to New Jersey closer to where she lives. She couldn’t be bothered with going to producer meetings so she invited Heath and her trailer while she was breast-feeding.

She had ultimate power on the set of the movie, but no one was saying she did any work. She just had people bend to her will and now she’s trying to take credit for it. There’s no contradiction there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few pages back someone was claiming that Colleen Hoover never wanted Justin Baldoni to play Ryle and that it was a decision that was sprung on her. Huh?

This is an email she sent Justin in 2019:

"Have you given any thought to whether you would want an acting role in this? Say, maybe, Ryle? I could see it."

Good point. Always call that poster on her bs because there is a lot of it in her five paragraph posts.

I'm sure that poster will try to rationalize what Colleen said in court by saying something like, "Oh, Justin twisted Colleen's light suggestion, when Colleen was just being polite, and made it seem like she fought for him." But I read what he said about her in interviews, and he describes the email truthfully. Like he literally quotes it.

On the acting side, as I was optioning the book, there was this part of me that really wanted to, but I was almost afraid to say it out loud. Then, before we had officially closed our deal, Colleen casually emailed me, saying, "Have you given any thought to whether you would want an acting role in this? Say, maybe, Ryle? I could see it." The fact that after reading the book I felt drawn to playing Ryle, and then getting this email from Colleen…it just felt like confirmation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the giant document dump is confusing people. People are reading things that Blake, Justin, and others said in texts and emails that are coming out now in the unsealing, and conflating that with arguments being made in court. They are the same thing.

Blake told friends in private texts/emails that she "basically" had to direct the movie because she felt Justin was so incompetent. But that is not the argument she's making in legal filings. At no point in any of her filings is she contending that, actually, she directed the movie. It's just something she said to friends. Now, depending on whose side you're on here, you might view those claims as either (1) evidence that Blake had a lot of power on the movie and therefore was not an employee and also could not have been harassed, OR (2) evidence that Justin was so incompetent that Blake felt she had no choice but to take over.

But it's actually not good evidence of either. People say all kinds of stuff in communications with friends. None of these were formal work communications. I tend to think the texts with Taylor and Matt Damon, the email to Affleck, etc., as fun as they are to discuss, will have little to no bearing on the case. Most likely won't even be brought in at trial, and those that are will mostly be brought just to show something like "state of mind" not to establish Blake's employment status.

The PGA letter is obviously different, that's actual evidence of Blake's position within the film. But that one actually makes me laugh because it puts both sides in a bind.

The pro-Lively folks want to argue that (1) Justin was incompetent and Blake had no choice but to take over the movie, making the PGA letter truthful and her PGA credit merited, AND (2) that Blake was just an employee of the movie and Justin/Jamey were very powerful and harassed her. See how that's hard to argue?

But the pro-Baldoni folks wind up in a similar bind because they want the opposite. They want to argue that (1) Blake didn't deserve he PGA credit and didn't actually do the stuff she claims to have done in the PGA letter and was not as instrumental in the making of the movie as she claims, AND (2) that she was too powerful and had too much control over the set to have been harassed by Justin and Jamey.

It's just funny. Everyone sucks here, and everyone is a hypocrite!

You are way over simplifying here. The people on Baldoni side are arguing that she used her power to take credit for the movie. She clearly did not do any work on the movie before production, which is a huge lift, she came onto the set and and her every demand was met, but that didn’t mean that she did any work. She didn’t want to go to a wardrobe fitting so she had them come to the house. She didn’t want to film in Boston so she made them move it to New Jersey closer to where she lives. She couldn’t be bothered with going to producer meetings so she invited Heath and her trailer while she was breast-feeding.

She had ultimate power on the set of the movie, but no one was saying she did any work. She just had people bend to her will and now she’s trying to take credit for it. There’s no contradiction there.

Dp, and she had her directors come to her house to be berated by her husband and friends. What employee can do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few pages back someone was claiming that Colleen Hoover never wanted Justin Baldoni to play Ryle and that it was a decision that was sprung on her. Huh?

This is an email she sent Justin in 2019:

"Have you given any thought to whether you would want an acting role in this? Say, maybe, Ryle? I could see it."

Oh, don’t get me started on the rewriting history with Colleen on this thread. People are painting it as if 2019 Colleen Hoover was a nobody self publisher, even though she’d sold millions and millions of books, more than 99% of writers ever will. She didn’t sell to Justin on a whim. They had lengthy discussions and yes, she asked him to play Ryle and he was hesitant with directing and acting.

She had been a self published author and had done fine, but not great. I think S&S might have picked her up, but still just did fine. BookTok made her explode, then she had an entire backlist of books that then also started selling like crazy.

So Justin deserves even more credit for knowing this book should be adapted.

You want it both ways. If Colleen was a nobody then she was lucky to get an offer and can’t really be picky about who is directing it can she? Most Hollywood directors are men. Sony might not have backed a female director. They got behind Justin and wayfarer. Not Christy and whatever producers might have backed her (I have not heard of a bidding war or a fight about the rights?)

Is there any documentation she was banned from the set? Because to me seems like she was happy to cash the check and continue with her other projects.

And didn’t Blake have creative control of the film? According to her PGA letter she masterminded every bit of it so why did she shut Colleen out?

[Anonymous]

NY Post calls Blake and Taylor pathological lying middle aged mean girls. Ouch.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/22/opinion/blake-lively-never-graduated-from-being-a-middle-school-mean-girl/

[Anonymous]

Time for Taylor to get knocked up by the CTE bozo to change the narrative…

[Anonymous]

The Taylor fan in me wants to believe that she was clearly good friends with Blake and just believed her. Should she have done that, no, but I understand believing your good friend and wanting to help.

They were clearly in alignment through the New York Times article. The last text exchange that I’ve seen is from the night the article got published and they were thrilled. I believe that text was between Taylor and Ryan, I’m not sure but either way Taylor was like biggest reverse canceling ever and they were so happy.

Of course we know that 10 days later that narrative started to shift when Justin launched that big website and then the dance video came out. That’s when the tide started to turn and of course we haven’t seen Taylor and Blake together since then, and nor has she put out any statements.

So it’s possible she realized she got played and Blake wasn’t telling her the full story.

[Anonymous]

Ryan doesn't sound like a loving husband, he sounds like a hyper emotional catty gay friend.