Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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If these are the same flowers used to obscure his face, it would seem he didn’t come back out the front door given the pieces of flower right on the doors edge. As if no one had gone in or out of the door after the flowers dropped.


Disagree because the blood was out front. The flowers are off to the side.


Look at the ledge just under the door there’s flower remnants on that that would have been kicked off as the door opened and closed or as foot brushed them.

Go to your front porch open the door it knocks off anything on that type of ledge.


Then why would Nancy’s blood be there unless staged?
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to take a closer look at the kidnapper's coat. It's very unusual. Where did he get it? US brand? Mexican? Some specialty tactical gear?

The seam across the chest, sealed zippers, the thickness of the material (you can see this in the sleeves)....

I challenge any of you to find that coat online. (And no, it's not Nike, which is what everyone is saying.).


It looks like a FedEx jacket


It's not. Don't be sloppy.

Yes, Fedex has a stripe across the front, but it's wider than this one. They don't have sealed seams. They are not lined with fleece in the sleeve.


I wish I took a screenshot of it, but somebody identified the jacket in a comment on one of those Twitter threads. If I find it, I will come back and post the link. It was identical and it was not a brand that I know.


Here is a direct link to the windbreaker

https://us.2xu.com/products/aero-hex-windbreaker-mr7358a-weathervaneblack-reflective?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17609298422&gbraid=0AAAAADvpZLhNqATevB7f4NguRB4qAFoGJ&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn7eH2_DRkgMVnWFHAR1DpibOEAAYASAAEgLlkfD_BwE

https://x.com/klutzycutie/status/2021361250752659513?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA



This is not remotely the jacket. Look at the location of the stripe. Look at the wrist band construction. Look at the fleece material on the close-up in the photo and the nylon-like fabric of the link. People. Stick to your strengths. This is not f*#&ing Blues Clues.


LOL agree! Seriously, people. You're overthinking it. He's wearing like an Old Navy fleece. His jacket has lighter colored hems around the wrists. And the jacket does not have a stripe! It's the backpack strap!


It DOES have a stripe/seam. Not the backpack strap. There's a photo of him without the backpack and you can clearly see the stripe.

Also if you're certain it's an Old Navy fleece post it. (But you can't. Because it isn't).


I stand corrected about the backpack strap.
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I despise bitcoin and everyone associated with even more after this story. In my mind bitcoin = criminals = too dumb to realize it’s a Ponzi scheme in free fall.
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Anonymous wrote:Why did they wait so long to release these images??


You again? Please read the thread. Answered many times.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:



If these are the same flowers used to obscure his face, it would seem he didn’t come back out the front door given the pieces of flower right on the doors edge. As if no one had gone in or out of the door after the flowers dropped.


Disagree because the blood was out front. The flowers are off to the side.


Look at the ledge just under the door there’s flower remnants on that that would have been kicked off as the door opened and closed or as foot brushed them.

Go to your front porch open the door it knocks off anything on that type of ledge.


I don't think this information is of probative value. No doubt they are looking for other retrievable video from the "back end" at Google, regardless of the absence or presence of some dead flowers.
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Anonymous wrote:I despise bitcoin and everyone associated with even more after this story. In my mind bitcoin = criminals = too dumb to realize it’s a Ponzi scheme in free fall.


Epstein is one of the founding fathers of Bitcoin. Just want to put that out there because there is a theory that Savannah is a target because she was the first journalist to interview Epstein victims
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Anonymous wrote:
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If these are the same flowers used to obscure his face, it would seem he didn’t come back out the front door given the pieces of flower right on the doors edge. As if no one had gone in or out of the door after the flowers dropped.


Disagree because the blood was out front. The flowers are off to the side.


Look at the ledge just under the door there’s flower remnants on that that would have been kicked off as the door opened and closed or as foot brushed them.

Go to your front porch open the door it knocks off anything on that type of ledge.


When were these photos taken? I would imagine the door had been opened several times by the family or law enforcement by the time these were taken.
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The front door was not broken. Why did Nancy open the door for a masked man? The only answer that makes sense is the masked man after dumping the doorbell camera , removed his mask then rang the doorbell and Nancy recognized/knows the man well and trusts him.
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Her blood was found on the front porch which means she was removed from The front after she opened the door. She would not open the door for a masked man.

She knew the kidnapper very well
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Anonymous wrote:The front door was not broken. Why did Nancy open the door for a masked man? The only answer that makes sense is the masked man after dumping the doorbell camera , removed his mask then rang the doorbell and Nancy recognized/knows the man well and trusts him.


Hmm never thought of this.
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If these are the same flowers used to obscure his face, it would seem he didn’t come back out the front door given the pieces of flower right on the doors edge. As if no one had gone in or out of the door after the flowers dropped.


Disagree because the blood was out front. The flowers are off to the side.


Look at the ledge just under the door there’s flower remnants on that that would have been kicked off as the door opened and closed or as foot brushed them.

Go to your front porch open the door it knocks off anything on that type of ledge.


I don't think this information is of probative value. No doubt they are looking for other retrievable video from the "back end" at Google, regardless of the absence or presence of some dead flowers.


But it can prove that the front door was not opened or used as an exit. Undisturbed flowers that lingered on the ledge not the actual flowers laid on the porch floor lean toward that door never actually being swung open. It appears to open outward.

It asked the question - Was the blood staged?
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Anonymous wrote:The front door was not broken. Why did Nancy open the door for a masked man? The only answer that makes sense is the masked man after dumping the doorbell camera , removed his mask then rang the doorbell and Nancy recognized/knows the man well and trusts him.


Hmm never thought of this.


That door would’ve knocked those flower bits off if it opened from the inside out. I don’t believe the front door was ever actually opened.
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Anonymous wrote:Her blood was found on the front porch which means she was removed from The front after she opened the door. She would not open the door for a masked man.

She knew the kidnapper very well

I thought it had been reported that the back door was left open. The person could have disabled the front door camera, knowing that’s how he was going to come out with Nancy and didn’t want any footage of that, and gained entry to the house through the back.
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No woman opens her front door at 1:45 am. No matter who’s knocking
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Anonymous wrote:Respectfully the perp doesn’t look like someone who could lift 175/185 woman alone.


Mexican men under 5’5 can pull heavier loads during construction. You guys are acting like the mom is 500 pounds


The person could barely bend to lift the flowers from what we saw.
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