US has no good options in Ukraine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since I follow sports, what has been impressive is the Ukrainian athletes with "something to lose" who have abandoned their endeavors and joined the fight. Thinking in particular of athletes like Lomachennko (top 10 p4p boxer), Usyk (heavyweight champ), Klitschko bros (though they are politicians now), Amosov (Bellator MMA welterweight champ). These guys should be training for bigtime fights and seemingly dropped everything to fight for their country, and not from afar. This has to be invigorating for the sense of common purpose and linked fate.

I have a hard time envisioning comparable American figures stepping up like this. Usually the fighting is left to the poor enlisted. But perhaps this wouldn't be needed due to the size of our military and our general military superiority. Also, as they say, necessity is the mother of virtue, so perhaps I should give the Americans more benefit of the doubt.

Pp, when was the last time the US had to fight on its own soil in mainland US? This makes a huge difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since I follow sports, what has been impressive is the Ukrainian athletes with "something to lose" who have abandoned their endeavors and joined the fight. Thinking in particular of athletes like Lomachennko (top 10 p4p boxer), Usyk (heavyweight champ), Klitschko bros (though they are politicians now), Amosov (Bellator MMA welterweight champ). These guys should be training for bigtime fights and seemingly dropped everything to fight for their country, and not from afar. This has to be invigorating for the sense of common purpose and linked fate.

I have a hard time envisioning comparable American figures stepping up like this. Usually the fighting is left to the poor enlisted. But perhaps this wouldn't be needed due to the size of our military and our general military superiority. Also, as they say, necessity is the mother of virtue, so perhaps I should give the Americans more benefit of the doubt.

Eh - those are not the Ukrainian athletes with most to lose. It’s combat pros that mostly went. None of the big footballers playing for clubs in Europe left.

I doubt any of those guys make as much as ruslan malinovsky, Andrei yarmelenko, Roman yaremchuk.

Especially ruslan — who is elite tier player. One of my favorite players to watch but no way is he gonna go to fight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since I follow sports, what has been impressive is the Ukrainian athletes with "something to lose" who have abandoned their endeavors and joined the fight. Thinking in particular of athletes like Lomachennko (top 10 p4p boxer), Usyk (heavyweight champ), Klitschko bros (though they are politicians now), Amosov (Bellator MMA welterweight champ). These guys should be training for bigtime fights and seemingly dropped everything to fight for their country, and not from afar. This has to be invigorating for the sense of common purpose and linked fate.

I have a hard time envisioning comparable American figures stepping up like this. Usually the fighting is left to the poor enlisted. But perhaps this wouldn't be needed due to the size of our military and our general military superiority. Also, as they say, necessity is the mother of virtue, so perhaps I should give the Americans more benefit of the doubt.

Pp, when was the last time the US had to fight on its own soil in mainland US? This makes a huge difference.

I posted on this earlier lots of pages ago. I’d be leaving not fighting next to my neighbors. Us is not a country like Ukraine. It’s a big stock market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since I follow sports, what has been impressive is the Ukrainian athletes with "something to lose" who have abandoned their endeavors and joined the fight. Thinking in particular of athletes like Lomachennko (top 10 p4p boxer), Usyk (heavyweight champ), Klitschko bros (though they are politicians now), Amosov (Bellator MMA welterweight champ). These guys should be training for bigtime fights and seemingly dropped everything to fight for their country, and not from afar. This has to be invigorating for the sense of common purpose and linked fate.

I have a hard time envisioning comparable American figures stepping up like this. Usually the fighting is left to the poor enlisted. But perhaps this wouldn't be needed due to the size of our military and our general military superiority. Also, as they say, necessity is the mother of virtue, so perhaps I should give the Americans more benefit of the doubt.

Pat Tillman is waving at you from Heaven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since I follow sports, what has been impressive is the Ukrainian athletes with "something to lose" who have abandoned their endeavors and joined the fight. Thinking in particular of athletes like Lomachennko (top 10 p4p boxer), Usyk (heavyweight champ), Klitschko bros (though they are politicians now), Amosov (Bellator MMA welterweight champ). These guys should be training for bigtime fights and seemingly dropped everything to fight for their country, and not from afar. This has to be invigorating for the sense of common purpose and linked fate.

I have a hard time envisioning comparable American figures stepping up like this. Usually the fighting is left to the poor enlisted. But perhaps this wouldn't be needed due to the size of our military and our general military superiority. Also, as they say, necessity is the mother of virtue, so perhaps I should give the Americans more benefit of the doubt.

Pat Tillman did that and look what happened to him.

[Anonymous]

And here is the reason for attacking Ukraine from the horse’s mouthpiece

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since I follow sports, what has been impressive is the Ukrainian athletes with "something to lose" who have abandoned their endeavors and joined the fight. Thinking in particular of athletes like Lomachennko (top 10 p4p boxer), Usyk (heavyweight champ), Klitschko bros (though they are politicians now), Amosov (Bellator MMA welterweight champ). These guys should be training for bigtime fights and seemingly dropped everything to fight for their country, and not from afar. This has to be invigorating for the sense of common purpose and linked fate.

I have a hard time envisioning comparable American figures stepping up like this. Usually the fighting is left to the poor enlisted. But perhaps this wouldn't be needed due to the size of our military and our general military superiority. Also, as they say, necessity is the mother of virtue, so perhaps I should give the Americans more benefit of the doubt.

Eh - those are not the Ukrainian athletes with most to lose. It’s combat pros that mostly went. None of the big footballers playing for clubs in Europe left.

I doubt any of those guys make as much as ruslan malinovsky, Andrei yarmelenko, Roman yaremchuk.

Especially ruslan — who is elite tier player. One of my favorite players to watch but no way is he gonna go to fight

No, I take your point. Pep has already said Zinchenko, who got a lot of coverage vs. Everton this weekend, will be playing in the FA Cup match for Manchester City this week as well. Still, my point really wasn't that they have the most to lose, but they do have something to lose. They have options.

Could you see Deontay Wilder, Terence Crawford, Errol Spence doing this? Idk...

[Anonymous]

^^chilling

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since I follow sports, what has been impressive is the Ukrainian athletes with "something to lose" who have abandoned their endeavors and joined the fight. Thinking in particular of athletes like Lomachennko (top 10 p4p boxer), Usyk (heavyweight champ), Klitschko bros (though they are politicians now), Amosov (Bellator MMA welterweight champ). These guys should be training for bigtime fights and seemingly dropped everything to fight for their country, and not from afar. This has to be invigorating for the sense of common purpose and linked fate.

I have a hard time envisioning comparable American figures stepping up like this. Usually the fighting is left to the poor enlisted. But perhaps this wouldn't be needed due to the size of our military and our general military superiority. Also, as they say, necessity is the mother of virtue, so perhaps I should give the Americans more benefit of the doubt.

Pat Tillman is waving at you from Heaven.

Pat fought in an unjust war for an unjust cause

[Anonymous]

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Speaking of DWTS I’ve been following Maksim Chmerkovskly’s Instagram account since Thursday and IMO it’s pretty incredible. He’s stuck in central Kyiv at a hotel and I believe was supposed to fly out Thursday but then the war started. He posts regularly.

The importance of social media from him and from anyone else in Ukraine has never been seen before during a war conflict. The entire world can see, every person with a phone becomes a journalist.

Why isn’t he fighting for his country?

He’s got a US passport, and hopped a train to Poland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since I follow sports, what has been impressive is the Ukrainian athletes with "something to lose" who have abandoned their endeavors and joined the fight. Thinking in particular of athletes like Lomachennko (top 10 p4p boxer), Usyk (heavyweight champ), Klitschko bros (though they are politicians now), Amosov (Bellator MMA welterweight champ). These guys should be training for bigtime fights and seemingly dropped everything to fight for their country, and not from afar. This has to be invigorating for the sense of common purpose and linked fate.

I have a hard time envisioning comparable American figures stepping up like this. Usually the fighting is left to the poor enlisted. But perhaps this wouldn't be needed due to the size of our military and our general military superiority. Also, as they say, necessity is the mother of virtue, so perhaps I should give the Americans more benefit of the doubt.

Pat Tillman is waving at you from Heaven.

I said "comparable".

Pat Tillman is great, and a hero and I will leave it at that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And here is the reason for attacking Ukraine from the horse’s mouthpiece

Proof that MoscowMonster has truly lost it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russian soldiers admitting war crimes to their mamas back home. Ooops, he wasn't supposed to have his phone!

These young men - and they are barely men - don't want to be there.
It is so sad. They were lied to.

Putin needs to be wiped from the face of the earth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here is the reason for attacking Ukraine from the horse’s mouthpiece

Proof that MoscowMonster has truly lost it.

and not only him… RT and Sputnik should be blocked in US like they are in Europe. This is not thinking of just 1 person but huge propaganda resources have been devoted to this for some time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And here is the reason for attacking Ukraine from the horse’s mouthpiece

Proof that MoscowMonster has truly lost it.

and not only him… RT and Sputnik should be blocked in US like they are in Europe. This is not thinking of just 1 person but huge propaganda resources have been devoted to this for some time.

Fox will just take up the slack.