FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

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Anonymous wrote:Seema's neighborhood is actually in Sandy's district. Interesting. No wonder Westfield is getting treated so poorly, there are zero SB reps interested in their area.

I think you are mistaken. It is in Sully. Maybe part of her neighborhood?

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Anonymous wrote:Seema's neighborhood is actually in Sandy's district. Interesting. No wonder Westfield is getting treated so poorly, there are zero SB reps interested in their area.

This is incorrect. Sandy represents Union Mill ES and parts of Centreville ES and Powell ES. For Chantilly she represents Greenbriar East and parts of Greenbriar West.

All of Bull Run is within Sully and all of the areas recommended to move to Westfield are in Sully. Westfield is losing representation from Drainesville and Hunter Mill and will solely be represented by Sully moving forward.

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Anonymous wrote:Seema's neighborhood is actually in Sandy's district. Interesting. No wonder Westfield is getting treated so poorly, there are zero SB reps interested in their area.

I don’t think you can be a magisterial district representative on the School Board or Board of Supervisors and live in another district. Common sense, please.

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Anonymous wrote:Its hard to be sympathetic to the people who bought into neighborhoods zoned to Oakton, but wanted to be switched to Skyview, but ended up still at Oakton. You can choose to pupil place into Skyview at any time. Of all the families involved in this s-show, your plight is the least sympathetic.

Why don't you say the same thing about. Fox Mill Mommies?? They bought homes knowing full well they'd be zoned to South Lakes which has been an IB school for a very long time. Why did they move there if they hate IB so much???

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Anonymous wrote:Its hard to be sympathetic to the people who bought into neighborhoods zoned to Oakton, but wanted to be switched to Skyview, but ended up still at Oakton. You can choose to pupil place into Skyview at any time. Of all the families involved in this s-show, your plight is the least sympathetic.

Why don't you say the same thing about. Fox Mill Mommies?? They bought homes knowing full well they'd be zoned to South Lakes which has been an IB school for a very long time. Why did they move there if they hate IB so much???

Aren't they getting moved to Skyview, which is what their area wants? Why would anyone feel sympathetic about that?

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Anonymous wrote:Its hard to be sympathetic to the people who bought into neighborhoods zoned to Oakton, but wanted to be switched to Skyview, but ended up still at Oakton. You can choose to pupil place into Skyview at any time. Of all the families involved in this s-show, your plight is the least sympathetic.

Why don't you say the same thing about. Fox Mill Mommies?? They bought homes knowing full well they'd be zoned to South Lakes which has been an IB school for a very long time. Why did they move there if they hate IB so much???

Aren't they getting moved to Skyview, which is what their area wants? Why would anyone feel sympathetic about that?

Could have prcased when it was zon3d to Oakton. Less than 20 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Its hard to be sympathetic to the people who bought into neighborhoods zoned to Oakton, but wanted to be switched to Skyview, but ended up still at Oakton. You can choose to pupil place into Skyview at any time. Of all the families involved in this s-show, your plight is the least sympathetic.

Why don't you say the same thing about. Fox Mill Mommies?? They bought homes knowing full well they'd be zoned to South Lakes which has been an IB school for a very long time. Why did they move there if they hate IB so much???

Aren't they getting moved to Skyview, which is what their area wants? Why would anyone feel sympathetic about that?

Could have prcased when it was zon3d to Oakton. Less than 20 years ago.

dp. AP is a factor but I think Carson provides an even bigger motivation. If Fox Mill stays at South Lakes, they would be the only school at Carson that does not feed to Skyview. While there may not be room at Hughes now, there could be in the future. People are happy at Carson, and it's much closer for some. Like RIO, people like to preserve the status quo.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

You're right that the projection has Westfield at 2083, not 2150. That's still higher than nine other high schools based on all the boundary adjustments adopted and proposed: Herndon, Marshall, South County, Falls Church, Annandale, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Skyview, and Lewis.

Interesting that this list of smallest schools also includes all the academic have-not schools people are desperate to avoid in FCPS and that FCPS ignores and refuses to improve. They are deliberately moving Westfield from a regular middle of the pack school down to the bottom tier of Avoid at All Cost schools.

If the only thing keeping Westfield in the middle of the pack was all those kids north of 50, then this was inevitable.

Not sure what your point is? Moving over a thousand kids out of any school with balanced demographics but only moving back in 200 or so mostly low income kids destabilizes any school community. Those areas have been zoned to Westfield for at least 25 years.

The current proposal is to move 386 kids into Westfield - 309 from Chantilly and 77 from Centreville. Not "200 or so."

It's still a sizable loss of students for Westfield, but Westfield would have more kids than nine other high schools in the county, including Skyview.

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I'm not disappointed at South Lakes being smaller. There will be plenty of classes available for kids to get what they need to go to college. It's not bad for a school to have a little breathing room. Maybe I won't have to hear my younger DS complain about clogs in the hallways and they can get through the metal detectors faster.

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Anonymous wrote:Its hard to be sympathetic to the people who bought into neighborhoods zoned to Oakton, but wanted to be switched to Skyview, but ended up still at Oakton. You can choose to pupil place into Skyview at any time. Of all the families involved in this s-show, your plight is the least sympathetic.

Why don't you say the same thing about. Fox Mill Mommies?? They bought homes knowing full well they'd be zoned to South Lakes which has been an IB school for a very long time. Why did they move there if they hate IB so much???

Aren't they getting moved to Skyview, which is what their area wants? Why would anyone feel sympathetic about that?

Could have prcased when it was zon3d to Oakton. Less than 20 years ago.

dp. AP is a factor but I think Carson provides an even bigger motivation. If Fox Mill stays at South Lakes, they would be the only school at Carson that does not feed to Skyview. While there may not be room at Hughes now, there could be in the future. People are happy at Carson, and it's much closer for some. Like RIO, people like to preserve the status quo.

When will Hughes start to send AAP students back to their base school.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not disappointed at South Lakes being smaller. There will be plenty of classes available for kids to get what they need to go to college. It's not bad for a school to have a little breathing room. Maybe I won't have to hear my younger DS complain about clogs in the hallways and they can get through the metal detectors faster.

My two kids who graduated from Chantilly have also said it is way too crowded. They liked it there and thrived, but said there were way too many kids. Crowded hallways, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

You're right that the projection has Westfield at 2083, not 2150. That's still higher than nine other high schools based on all the boundary adjustments adopted and proposed: Herndon, Marshall, South County, Falls Church, Annandale, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Skyview, and Lewis.

Interesting that this list of smallest schools also includes all the academic have-not schools people are desperate to avoid in FCPS and that FCPS ignores and refuses to improve. They are deliberately moving Westfield from a regular middle of the pack school down to the bottom tier of Avoid at All Cost schools.

If the only thing keeping Westfield in the middle of the pack was all those kids north of 50, then this was inevitable.

Not sure what your point is? Moving over a thousand kids out of any school with balanced demographics but only moving back in 200 or so mostly low income kids destabilizes any school community. Those areas have been zoned to Westfield for at least 25 years.

The current proposal is to move 386 kids into Westfield - 309 from Chantilly and 77 from Centreville. Not "200 or so."

It's still a sizable loss of students for Westfield, but Westfield would have more kids than nine other high schools in the county, including Skyview.

10th smallest school by population with the largest HS building capacity in the county. Make it make sense…. There is no reason Westfield doesn’t have a top 5 population. It’s because the county caved to the wealthy and connected at Chantilly and Centreville. Case closed

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Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

You're right that the projection has Westfield at 2083, not 2150. That's still higher than nine other high schools based on all the boundary adjustments adopted and proposed: Herndon, Marshall, South County, Falls Church, Annandale, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Skyview, and Lewis.

Interesting that this list of smallest schools also includes all the academic have-not schools people are desperate to avoid in FCPS and that FCPS ignores and refuses to improve. They are deliberately moving Westfield from a regular middle of the pack school down to the bottom tier of Avoid at All Cost schools.

If the only thing keeping Westfield in the middle of the pack was all those kids north of 50, then this was inevitable.

Not sure what your point is? Moving over a thousand kids out of any school with balanced demographics but only moving back in 200 or so mostly low income kids destabilizes any school community. Those areas have been zoned to Westfield for at least 25 years.

The current proposal is to move 386 kids into Westfield - 309 from Chantilly and 77 from Centreville. Not "200 or so."

It's still a sizable loss of students for Westfield, but Westfield would have more kids than nine other high schools in the county, including Skyview.

10th smallest school by population with the largest HS building capacity in the county. Make it make sense…. There is no reason Westfield doesn’t have a top 5 population. It’s because the county caved to the wealthy and connected at Chantilly and Centreville. Case closed

Westfield does not have the largest HS building capacity in FCPS. Lake Braddock and West Potomac both have more 9-12 capacity.

Westfield is still expected to have more kids than nine other high schools, including Skyview, once these changes are fully implemented.

It’s likely Westfield will stop winning state championships with a smaller student enrollment but FCPS implicitly decided smaller schools were better when it decided to buy KAA.

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It’s likely Westfield will stop winning state championships with a smaller student enrollment but FCPS implicitly decided smaller schools were better when it decided to buy KAA.

Actually, they had a policy that said 2000 was optimum. It was renewed in 2008 with the South Lakes Boundary Study. They took kids out of Chantilly and Westfield at that time. But, kids in this area should never have been at Westfield to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:Its hard to be sympathetic to the people who bought into neighborhoods zoned to Oakton, but wanted to be switched to Skyview, but ended up still at Oakton. You can choose to pupil place into Skyview at any time. Of all the families involved in this s-show, your plight is the least sympathetic.

Why don't you say the same thing about. Fox Mill Mommies?? They bought homes knowing full well they'd be zoned to South Lakes which has been an IB school for a very long time. Why did they move there if they hate IB so much???

Aren't they getting moved to Skyview, which is what their area wants? Why would anyone feel sympathetic about that?

Could have prcased when it was zon3d to Oakton. Less than 20 years ago.

dp. AP is a factor but I think Carson provides an even bigger motivation. If Fox Mill stays at South Lakes, they would be the only school at Carson that does not feed to Skyview. While there may not be room at Hughes now, there could be in the future. People are happy at Carson, and it's much closer for some. Like RIO, people like to preserve the status quo.

When will Hughes start to send AAP students back to their base school.

i believe herndon is in the last group to get AAP. same year as franklin. either 29-30 or 30-31. i can’t remember which.