Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:If saving money on bus transportation is a BRAC goal. Why are you adding a new bus route down huntsman and through Orange hunt when there is already an me that goes there? These students will be the only ones in the neighborhood going to LBSS in their community

This is especially true for the people on Dorothy. Since one side of Dorothy already goes to WS and isn’t getting changed. That neighborhood is the only one on all of huntsman not going to WS

Lake Braddock busses already travel through that neighborhood to pick up AAP kids.

In addition, the streets in that neighborhood behind the Sangster playground are already zoned to Lake Braddock and are picked up by Lake Braddock busses.

Moving all of Sangster to Lake Bradfock will eliminate 2 entire busses from tgat Sangster neighborhood, the Irving and WSHS busses.

There will only need to be one bus in that neighborhood, Lake Braddock, instead of the current 3 busses that pick up on those streets.

Rezoning that entire neighborhood to Lake Braddock is a cost saving measure.

Busses and commute are not the best argument for the Sangster families to use to stay at WSHS.

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Anonymous wrote:Now all the arguments are getting conflated. I was saying ALL ongoing Sangster should be moved TO WSHS, and it should be closed to transfers.

ALL of Sangster should not be moved to WSHS.

The 400-500 Sangster students attending LB should not be moved to WSHS.

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Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

Stop transfers in, include Sangster in WSHS, adjust Lake braddock, send Daventry back to Lewis....

Sangster is farther from WSHS than Daventry.

Sangster is 4 to 7 miles from WSHS.

Most of the other WSHS neighborhoods are 2.5 miles or less to WSHS,

Ok, now calculate how far Sangster is fm Braddock.

5.5 miles from LB

4.2 miles from WS

Less than a 1.5 mile difference.

Alright. So as I said, WS is closer to Sangster.

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Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

Stop transfers in, include Sangster in WSHS, adjust Lake braddock, send Daventry back to Lewis....

Sangster is farther from WSHS than Daventry.

Sangster is 4 to 7 miles from WSHS.

Most of the other WSHS neighborhoods are 2.5 miles or less to WSHS,

Ok, now calculate how far Sangster is fm Braddock.

5.5 miles from LB

4.2 miles from WS

Less than a 1.5 mile difference.

Alright. So as I said, WS is closer to Sangster.

It all depends what freaking address you use. That area in quite long. Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:If saving money on bus transportation is a BRAC goal. Why are you adding a new bus route down huntsman and through Orange hunt when there is already an me that goes there? These students will be the only ones in the neighborhood going to LBSS in their community

This is especially true for the people on Dorothy. Since one side of Dorothy already goes to WS and isn’t getting changed. That neighborhood is the only one on all of huntsman not going to WS

Lake Braddock busses already travel through that neighborhood to pick up AAP kids.

In addition, the streets in that neighborhood behind the Sangster playground are already zoned to Lake Braddock and are picked up by Lake Braddock busses.

Moving all of Sangster to Lake Bradfock will eliminate 2 entire busses from tgat Sangster neighborhood, the Irving and WSHS busses.

There will only need to be one bus in that neighborhood, Lake Braddock, instead of the current 3 busses that pick up on those streets.

Rezoning that entire neighborhood to Lake Braddock is a cost saving measure.

Busses and commute are not the best argument for the Sangster families to use to stay at WSHS.

Busses all ready go through that neighborhood through Cottontail. They are saving zero dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:If saving money on bus transportation is a BRAC goal. Why are you adding a new bus route down huntsman and through Orange hunt when there is already an me that goes there? These students will be the only ones in the neighborhood going to LBSS in their community

This is especially true for the people on Dorothy. Since one side of Dorothy already goes to WS and isn’t getting changed. That neighborhood is the only one on all of huntsman not going to WS

Lake Braddock busses already travel through that neighborhood to pick up AAP kids.

In addition, the streets in that neighborhood behind the Sangster playground are already zoned to Lake Braddock and are picked up by Lake Braddock busses.

Moving all of Sangster to Lake Bradfock will eliminate 2 entire busses from tgat Sangster neighborhood, the Irving and WSHS busses.

There will only need to be one bus in that neighborhood, Lake Braddock, instead of the current 3 busses that pick up on those streets.

Rezoning that entire neighborhood to Lake Braddock is a cost saving measure.

Busses and commute are not the best argument for the Sangster families to use to stay at WSHS.

Busses all ready go through that neighborhood through Cottontail. They are saving zero dollars.

Those Irving and WSHS busses will no longer need to go through the Sangster neighborhood if they don't need to pick up Sangster kids ,(Gamelord through Reservation)

That neighborhood will only have Lake Braddock busses.

The busses from the WSHS neighborhoods surrounding Orange Hunt down to the Methodist church are always very crowded, 3 to a seat.

If the busses no longer have to pick ip the Gamelord and Reservation neighborhoods, the Irving and WSHS busses end up with 2 teenagers to a seat instead of 3 teenagers to a seat, and a shorter bus ride since they aren't driving through the Sangster neighborhoods

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Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

Stop transfers in, include Sangster in WSHS, adjust Lake braddock, send Daventry back to Lewis....

Sangster is farther from WSHS than Daventry.

Sangster is 4 to 7 miles from WSHS.

Most of the other WSHS neighborhoods are 2.5 miles or less to WSHS,

Ok, now calculate how far Sangster is fm Braddock.

5.5 miles from LB

4.2 miles from WS

Less than a 1.5 mile difference.

Alright. So as I said, WS is closer to Sangster.

It all depends what freaking address you use. That area in quite long. Just stop.

There are only around 3 Sangster streets that are closer to WSHS than LBSS.

I don't understand how the Sangster families can't see that trying to use transportation as their main argument is a losing argument. All the facts work against them.

They have one or two better arguments than transportation and distance.

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We actually agree. And have tried to use other logical arguments and our BRAC reps told us FCPS only cares about transportation costs etc. so focus on those. We have written several comments on the maps with other arguments on how and why to keep our neighborhood together

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Anonymous wrote:We actually agree. And have tried to use other logical arguments and our BRAC reps told us FCPS only cares about transportation costs etc. so focus on those. We have written several comments on the maps with other arguments on how and why to keep our neighborhood together

There is a very good chance that the school board views your "neighborhood" as the hundreds of your Sangster friends, neighbors and classmates that you would transition to Lake Braddock with, and not the Irving and West Springfield kids that you don't even meet until 7th grade at Irving when you change pyramids to Irving in 7th grade with a couple dozen other Sangster students.

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Did anyone go to the meeting at Sandburg MS this morning (Sat, 10/25)? Anything to report?

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Anonymous wrote:We actually agree. And have tried to use other logical arguments and our BRAC reps told us FCPS only cares about transportation costs etc. so focus on those. We have written several comments on the maps with other arguments on how and why to keep our neighborhood together

There is a very good chance that the school board views your "neighborhood" as the hundreds of your Sangster friends, neighbors and classmates that you would transition to Lake Braddock with, and not the Irving and West Springfield kids that you don't even meet until 7th grade at Irving when you change pyramids to Irving in 7th grade with a couple dozen other Sangster students.

Except due to AAP, Sangster sends more than just this in boundary pocket to Irving. They know way more than a dozen students, due to the many AAP who come to sangster from HVES and OHES.

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Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

Stop transfers in, include Sangster in WSHS, adjust Lake braddock, send Daventry back to Lewis....

Sangster is farther from WSHS than Daventry.

Sangster is 4 to 7 miles from WSHS.

Most of the other WSHS neighborhoods are 2.5 miles or less to WSHS,

Ok, now calculate how far Sangster is fm Braddock.

5.5 miles from LB

4.2 miles from WS

Less than a 1.5 mile difference.

Alright. So as I said, WS is closer to Sangster.

It all depends what freaking address you use. That area in quite long. Just stop.

There are only around 3 Sangster streets that are closer to WSHS than LBSS.

I don't understand how the Sangster families can't see that trying to use transportation as their main argument is a losing argument. All the facts work against them.

They have one or two better arguments than transportation and distance.

Which 3 streets are you referring to?

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FairFacts posted the draft KAA maps to their FB group.

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Anonymous wrote:Sangster should stop fighting rezoning and just focus on guaranteeing garndfathering for current Irving enrolled students to continue to WSHS.

6th and younger from that neighborhood should just attend LB with all of their friends and classmates from Sangster.

Agreed. Other WSHS neighborhoods are looking at moving to lower performing schools. These are champagne problems for Sangster neighborhoods who could move from one great HS to another great HS. They’d be wise to focus on grandfathering.

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Anonymous wrote:We actually agree. And have tried to use other logical arguments and our BRAC reps told us FCPS only cares about transportation costs etc. so focus on those. We have written several comments on the maps with other arguments on how and why to keep our neighborhood together

There is a very good chance that the school board views your "neighborhood" as the hundreds of your Sangster friends, neighbors and classmates that you would transition to Lake Braddock with, and not the Irving and West Springfield kids that you don't even meet until 7th grade at Irving when you change pyramids to Irving in 7th grade with a couple dozen other Sangster students.

This makes so much sense for me.
I can't imagine why people would be fighting this (barring grandfathering issues)