Boundary Review Meetings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

The Sangster neighborhood is over 4 miles from WSHS and over 5 miles to Lake Braddock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

The clisest Sangster neighborhoods are 4 miles from WSHS.

Most of Sangster is 5-7+ miles from WSHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

Stop transfers in, include Sangster in WSHS, adjust Lake braddock, send Daventry back to Lewis....

Sangster is farther from WSHS than Daventry.

Sangster is 4 to 7 miles from WSHS.

Most of the other WSHS neighborhoods are 2.5 miles or less to WSHS,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

Stop transfers in, include Sangster in WSHS, adjust Lake braddock, send Daventry back to Lewis....

Sangster is farther from WSHS than Daventry.

Sangster is 4 to 7 miles from WSHS.

Most of the other WSHS neighborhoods are 2.5 miles or less to WSHS,

There are a couple pockets of sangster that this affects. One pocket has less than 4 miles from WSHS. It would be the only street off of huntsman blvd to be sent to LBSS. The easiest route via Google Maps/traffic patterns takes this neighborhood past WSHS to get to LBSS.

[Anonymous]

Sangster should stop fighting rezoning and just focus on guaranteeing garndfathering for current Irving enrolled students to continue to WSHS.

6th and younger from that neighborhood should just attend LB with all of their friends and classmates from Sangster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

No, it isn't a half hour from that Sangster neighborhood to Lake Braddock.

Lake Braddock busses already pick up lots of students from that Sangster neighborhood,

And the Lake Braddock bus does not drive past West Springfield on its way to school from the Sangster neighborhood.

It will take the direct route, which goes from either Old Keene Mill to Shiplett to Burke Lake, or Lee Chapel to Burke Lake, coming from the opposite direction, not from West Springfield. The Sangster neighborhood will never need to pass WSHS on its way to Lake Braddock. That would be the most convoluted route possible.

Sangster to West Springfield High School is 4.2 miles, and is a heavier trafficked route, down the main commuting thoroughfare of Keene Mill Rd.

Sangster to Lake Braddock is 5.5 miles, along a less trafficked path.

The difference is negligible.

When you attempt to use the bus ride and distance as your argument against getting rezoned from WSHS to Lake Braddock, you are not helping your cause. You might actually be hurting your cause.

You are ignoring the fact that FCPS already has busses travelling through that Sangster neighborhood, picking up lots of kids from your neighborhood and taking them to Lake Braddock. FCPS has years of bus data from that Sangster neighborhood to Lake Braddock, so FCPS knows exactly how long both the Lake Braddock and WSHS busses take to get from the Sangster neighborhood to both LBSS and WSHS. They also know how much money the district will save each year by cutting the bus routes from that neighborhood in half, only sending one bus to LBSS instead of 2 busses to LB and WS.

The Sangster neighborhood has one or two reasonable arguments against getting rezoned.

The bus and commute time arguments are not one of them.

FCPS has too much transportation data from that neighborhood to both WSHS and Lake Braddock, years worth, for your arguments to have any credibility.

West Springfield and Irving buses also already go through that neighborhood on Cottontail. As for proximity, Irving and WS are physically closer. It is a fact that transportation times will increase. Just saying ..

[Anonymous]

You fight for what’s important to you. And I’ll fight what’s important to me and my family. If you don’t live in the neighborhood in question, respectfully stay in your lane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

No, it isn't a half hour from that Sangster neighborhood to Lake Braddock.

Lake Braddock busses already pick up lots of students from that Sangster neighborhood,

And the Lake Braddock bus does not drive past West Springfield on its way to school from the Sangster neighborhood.

It will take the direct route, which goes from either Old Keene Mill to Shiplett to Burke Lake, or Lee Chapel to Burke Lake, coming from the opposite direction, not from West Springfield. The Sangster neighborhood will never need to pass WSHS on its way to Lake Braddock. That would be the most convoluted route possible.

Sangster to West Springfield High School is 4.2 miles, and is a heavier trafficked route, down the main commuting thoroughfare of Keene Mill Rd.

Sangster to Lake Braddock is 5.5 miles, along a less trafficked path.

The difference is negligible.

When you attempt to use the bus ride and distance as your argument against getting rezoned from WSHS to Lake Braddock, you are not helping your cause. You might actually be hurting your cause.

You are ignoring the fact that FCPS already has busses travelling through that Sangster neighborhood, picking up lots of kids from your neighborhood and taking them to Lake Braddock. FCPS has years of bus data from that Sangster neighborhood to Lake Braddock, so FCPS knows exactly how long both the Lake Braddock and WSHS busses take to get from the Sangster neighborhood to both LBSS and WSHS. They also know how much money the district will save each year by cutting the bus routes from that neighborhood in half, only sending one bus to LBSS instead of 2 busses to LB and WS.

The Sangster neighborhood has one or two reasonable arguments against getting rezoned.

The bus and commute time arguments are not one of them.

FCPS has too much transportation data from that neighborhood to both WSHS and Lake Braddock, years worth, for your arguments to have any credibility.

Oh look, it's Daventry mom. I thought for a hot sec she retreated back into her hole. Even if they moved Sangster kids, it will not alleviate long term overcrowding, and it does zero to help underpopulated Lewis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You fight for what’s important to you. And I’ll fight what’s important to me and my family. If you don’t live in the neighborhood in question, respectfully stay in your lane.

+1

People do understand that just sending 6th graders to a new school doesn’t solve the fact that families will be split between High schools for years to come. Not everyone fighting this has tiny kids. Some people have kids in multiple age groups and don’t want to be bounced to another HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

Stop transfers in, include Sangster in WSHS, adjust Lake braddock, send Daventry back to Lewis....

Sangster is farther from WSHS than Daventry.

Sangster is 4 to 7 miles from WSHS.

Most of the other WSHS neighborhoods are 2.5 miles or less to WSHS,

Ok, now calculate how far Sangster is fm Braddock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

No, it isn't a half hour from that Sangster neighborhood to Lake Braddock.

Lake Braddock busses already pick up lots of students from that Sangster neighborhood,

And the Lake Braddock bus does not drive past West Springfield on its way to school from the Sangster neighborhood.

It will take the direct route, which goes from either Old Keene Mill to Shiplett to Burke Lake, or Lee Chapel to Burke Lake, coming from the opposite direction, not from West Springfield. The Sangster neighborhood will never need to pass WSHS on its way to Lake Braddock. That would be the most convoluted route possible.

Sangster to West Springfield High School is 4.2 miles, and is a heavier trafficked route, down the main commuting thoroughfare of Keene Mill Rd.

Sangster to Lake Braddock is 5.5 miles, along a less trafficked path.

The difference is negligible.

When you attempt to use the bus ride and distance as your argument against getting rezoned from WSHS to Lake Braddock, you are not helping your cause. You might actually be hurting your cause.

You are ignoring the fact that FCPS already has busses travelling through that Sangster neighborhood, picking up lots of kids from your neighborhood and taking them to Lake Braddock. FCPS has years of bus data from that Sangster neighborhood to Lake Braddock, so FCPS knows exactly how long both the Lake Braddock and WSHS busses take to get from the Sangster neighborhood to both LBSS and WSHS. They also know how much money the district will save each year by cutting the bus routes from that neighborhood in half, only sending one bus to LBSS instead of 2 busses to LB and WS.

The Sangster neighborhood has one or two reasonable arguments against getting rezoned.

The bus and commute time arguments are not one of them.

FCPS has too much transportation data from that neighborhood to both WSHS and Lake Braddock, years worth, for your arguments to have any credibility.

Oh look, it's Daventry mom. I thought for a hot sec she retreated back into her hole. Even if they moved Sangster kids, it will not alleviate long term overcrowding, and it does zero to help underpopulated Lewis.

And as Lewis parents pointed out last night, moving Daventry solves both those issues, while moving Sangster puts Lake Braddock over capacity. I know this is passion charged, but it would have been the logical and best outcome choice for FCPS.

[Anonymous]

If saving money on bus transportation is a BRAC goal. Why are you adding a new bus route down huntsman and through Orange hunt when there is already an me that goes there? These students will be the only ones in the neighborhood going to LBSS in their community

This is especially true for the people on Dorothy. Since one side of Dorothy already goes to WS and isn’t getting changed. That neighborhood is the only one on all of huntsman not going to WS

[Anonymous]

Now all the arguments are getting conflated. I was saying ALL ongoing Sangster should be moved TO WSHS, and it should be closed to transfers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now all the arguments are getting conflated. I was saying ALL ongoing Sangster should be moved TO WSHS, and it should be closed to transfers.

My bad! I was responding to an earlier post...clearly you are not Daventry mom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they were going to redo boundaries, they should have started from scratch. Example - given travel distance, ALL of Sangster should go to WSHS, instead of the small attendance island being shifted to Braddock.
Sangster kids are traveling up to half hour to get to Braddock, whereas WSHS is much closer.

At whose expense? Almost ALL of WSHS's boundary is within a 2 mile radius of the school. That's why no one feels they should be the ones to go.

Stop transfers in, include Sangster in WSHS, adjust Lake braddock, send Daventry back to Lewis....

Sangster is farther from WSHS than Daventry.

Sangster is 4 to 7 miles from WSHS.

Most of the other WSHS neighborhoods are 2.5 miles or less to WSHS,

Ok, now calculate how far Sangster is fm Braddock.

5.5 miles from LB

4.2 miles from WS

Less than a 1.5 mile difference.