ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Playing for more than 12 months range is playing down. It is a 12-month age group regardless of your grade.

Playing down is for losers. Everyone should play in their correct age group. When you cannot, you are a loser in most players' opinions.

Playing down is for losers. Unfortunately theres a keyboard warrior defending it. It wont matter, clubs wont let crazy parents embarrass their B team kid by letting them play down a grade on the lower level A team.


What do you mean by playing down?
Explain who’s playing down next year if Aug 2011 to July 2012 is new age group?
MLSN is the only league that allows playing “down” because of biobanding.

Under SY the eligibility window is from 8/1-7/31. If your school district starts 9/1 this means Aug birthday players can play with their grade in school or they can play on a team a grade down.

Most normal people would put their kid on a team with players their grade. Losers that found a loophole will play their kid on the team thats a grade younger. This is called playing down for wins.

The problem with doing this is if you ever want recruiters to take your kid seriously they'll need to play on a team with players their grade when they get older. So why waste everyone's time playing down.

If your Aug birthday kid isn't good enough to play on the A team with players their grade. Have some decency and play on the B team with players their age. Don't steal minutes from some other kid thats a grade below yours.
Players getting to choose to play up is very rare. Name an instance where a club forced a player to play up above their age group or stop complaining. Teams put players on clubs.

Top 20 nationally team.

Our club will let currently trapped players do whatever they want. Maybe they'll choose for the youngers but not the olders.


Just going to give you the facts ECNL has already had a meeting about this and unless a kid is exceptional they want all kids moved into their new age groups to help get this process started
Starting Fall 26.

They will allow kids to play up however they do not want clubs doing what you’re saying. And keeping large groups up and keeping Birth year teams together.

Your club is just keeping face for now so parents think they have nothing to worry about.

You’ll see what I’m talking about after the tryout window is over and you see a bunch of new faces on the team.



Yeah it would look pretty bad for ECNL if they lobbied for SY to make it easier for college coaches and recruiting and then all their top clubs ignore SY and try to keep teams together by BY. It is never going to happen. They will all reform teams based around the SY brackets. To think otherwise is wishful thinking.

But its SCHOOL YEAR and therefore grade in school doesnt matter right....

Using this logic the Aug birthdays playing down will be no big deal. Even though recruiters will ignore the trojan horses when they get older.

Quit talking out of both sides of your mouth. If leaguea changed from BY to SY to get rid of trapped players playing up to make things easier for recruiters. Why would they allow Aug birthdays to play down causing the same issue but in a worse way.
No, it’s seasonal year.

Oh yes Seasonal Year like that matters. its the same situation we're changing from BY to SY to get rid of trapped players. playing up. But in doing so now we're going to allow Aug birthdays to play down. Which is the same thing (players playing on the wrong grade team) Don't you see how this wont work long term?

There wont be any Aug birthdays playing down for wins once players are u14 or higher because college coaches wont take them seriously. That or parents will hold their Aug birthday kid back which is exactly what everyone is trying to avoid.
Worked fine before in SY. U14 has 12 year olds in 7th grade, bit early to be picking colleges.
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I understand the logic and response to playing down a school grade because it falls in the new calendar year. I also don’t view it as cheating. College recruiting, playing with younger kids, and misalignment are some big issues and I am curious as to what the positive benefits would be for encouraging your kid to play on a team with kids a school year younger than them? Honest question.
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The guy that keeps saying Aug kids are cheaters for “playing down” is a full blown idiot. But it’s keeping the thread alive.
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Anonymous wrote:Playing for more than 12 months range is playing down. It is a 12-month age group regardless of your grade.

Playing down is for losers. Everyone should play in their correct age group. When you cannot, you are a loser in most players' opinions.

Playing down is for losers. Unfortunately theres a keyboard warrior defending it. It wont matter, clubs wont let crazy parents embarrass their B team kid by letting them play down a grade on the lower level A team.


What do you mean by playing down?
Explain who’s playing down next year if Aug 2011 to July 2012 is new age group?
MLSN is the only league that allows playing “down” because of biobanding.

Under SY the eligibility window is from 8/1-7/31. If your school district starts 9/1 this means Aug birthday players can play with their grade in school or they can play on a team a grade down.

Most normal people would put their kid on a team with players their grade. Losers that found a loophole will play their kid on the team thats a grade younger. This is called playing down for wins.

The problem with doing this is if you ever want recruiters to take your kid seriously they'll need to play on a team with players their grade when they get older. So why waste everyone's time playing down.

If your Aug birthday kid isn't good enough to play on the A team with players their grade. Have some decency and play on the B team with players their age. Don't steal minutes from some other kid thats a grade below yours.
Players getting to choose to play up is very rare. Name an instance where a club forced a player to play up above their age group or stop complaining. Teams put players on clubs.

Top 20 nationally team.

Our club will let currently trapped players do whatever they want. Maybe they'll choose for the youngers but not the olders.


Just going to give you the facts ECNL has already had a meeting about this and unless a kid is exceptional they want all kids moved into their new age groups to help get this process started
Starting Fall 26.

They will allow kids to play up however they do not want clubs doing what you’re saying. And keeping large groups up and keeping Birth year teams together.

Your club is just keeping face for now so parents think they have nothing to worry about.

You’ll see what I’m talking about after the tryout window is over and you see a bunch of new faces on the team.


No this will not be the case with olders.
No grandfathering. And with all the Aug-Dec players going back a year there will be big changes at the older levels also. Make sure you have a backup team for your HS age kid. Getting cut in May is too late to find a new team that fits.
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Anonymous wrote:Playing for more than 12 months range is playing down. It is a 12-month age group regardless of your grade.

Playing down is for losers. Everyone should play in their correct age group. When you cannot, you are a loser in most players' opinions.

Playing down is for losers. Unfortunately theres a keyboard warrior defending it. It wont matter, clubs wont let crazy parents embarrass their B team kid by letting them play down a grade on the lower level A team.


What do you mean by playing down?
Explain who’s playing down next year if Aug 2011 to July 2012 is new age group?
MLSN is the only league that allows playing “down” because of biobanding.

Under SY the eligibility window is from 8/1-7/31. If your school district starts 9/1 this means Aug birthday players can play with their grade in school or they can play on a team a grade down.

Most normal people would put their kid on a team with players their grade. Losers that found a loophole will play their kid on the team thats a grade younger. This is called playing down for wins.

The problem with doing this is if you ever want recruiters to take your kid seriously they'll need to play on a team with players their grade when they get older. So why waste everyone's time playing down.

If your Aug birthday kid isn't good enough to play on the A team with players their grade. Have some decency and play on the B team with players their age. Don't steal minutes from some other kid thats a grade below yours.
Players getting to choose to play up is very rare. Name an instance where a club forced a player to play up above their age group or stop complaining. Teams put players on clubs.

Top 20 nationally team.

Our club will let currently trapped players do whatever they want. Maybe they'll choose for the youngers but not the olders.


Just going to give you the facts ECNL has already had a meeting about this and unless a kid is exceptional they want all kids moved into their new age groups to help get this process started
Starting Fall 26.

They will allow kids to play up however they do not want clubs doing what you’re saying. And keeping large groups up and keeping Birth year teams together.

Your club is just keeping face for now so parents think they have nothing to worry about.

You’ll see what I’m talking about after the tryout window is over and you see a bunch of new faces on the team.


No this will not be the case with olders.


You’re living in a fantasy the most recruited age group is u17 so all the kids who are currently U17 but will also be eligible next year to play u17 again will want that string recruitment year again and attend better national events they will not go up to U19 which is the year where everyone puts it in cruise control.

Just this alone will have a domino effect that will push everyone else down so kids can stay on top teams.
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Is consensus opinion now that MLSN Homegrown and Academy will both go SY?
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Anonymous wrote:The guy that keeps saying Aug kids are cheaters for “playing down” is a full blown idiot. But it’s keeping the thread alive.


They are doing it just a troll. There’s no way they actually believe Aug kids are cheaters and absolutely coaches will take a stud Aug kid on their team they could care less about the kids grade.

This is the only year I’ve ever seen coaches pay attention to birth months.
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Anonymous wrote:I understand the logic and response to playing down a school grade because it falls in the new calendar year. I also don’t view it as cheating. College recruiting, playing with younger kids, and misalignment are some big issues and I am curious as to what the positive benefits would be for encouraging your kid to play on a team with kids a school year younger than them? Honest question.
It's all the RAE research findings. And so few go to play high level college where playing outweighs academics that there is no long run. "In the long run we are all dead", Keynes
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Aug guy competing with +30 guy for most trolling posts
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Anonymous wrote:Playing for more than 12 months range is playing down. It is a 12-month age group regardless of your grade.

Playing down is for losers. Everyone should play in their correct age group. When you cannot, you are a loser in most players' opinions.

Playing down is for losers. Unfortunately theres a keyboard warrior defending it. It wont matter, clubs wont let crazy parents embarrass their B team kid by letting them play down a grade on the lower level A team.


What do you mean by playing down?
Explain who’s playing down next year if Aug 2011 to July 2012 is new age group?
MLSN is the only league that allows playing “down” because of biobanding.

Under SY the eligibility window is from 8/1-7/31. If your school district starts 9/1 this means Aug birthday players can play with their grade in school or they can play on a team a grade down.

Most normal people would put their kid on a team with players their grade. Losers that found a loophole will play their kid on the team thats a grade younger. This is called playing down for wins.

The problem with doing this is if you ever want recruiters to take your kid seriously they'll need to play on a team with players their grade when they get older. So why waste everyone's time playing down.

If your Aug birthday kid isn't good enough to play on the A team with players their grade. Have some decency and play on the B team with players their age. Don't steal minutes from some other kid thats a grade below yours.
Players getting to choose to play up is very rare. Name an instance where a club forced a player to play up above their age group or stop complaining. Teams put players on clubs.

Top 20 nationally team.

Our club will let currently trapped players do whatever they want. Maybe they'll choose for the youngers but not the olders.


Just going to give you the facts ECNL has already had a meeting about this and unless a kid is exceptional they want all kids moved into their new age groups to help get this process started
Starting Fall 26.

They will allow kids to play up however they do not want clubs doing what you’re saying. And keeping large groups up and keeping Birth year teams together.

Your club is just keeping face for now so parents think they have nothing to worry about.

You’ll see what I’m talking about after the tryout window is over and you see a bunch of new faces on the team.


No this will not be the case with olders.


You’re living in a fantasy the most recruited age group is u17 so all the kids who are currently U17 but will also be eligible next year to play u17 again will want that string recruitment year again and attend better national events they will not go up to U19 which is the year where everyone puts it in cruise control.

Just this alone will have a domino effect that will push everyone else down so kids can stay on top teams.

Recruiting at u17 started with initial correspondence at u14.

Players dont want to change teams because this might affect anything they have in process with college coaches.

But you know everything.
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Anonymous wrote:Aug guy competing with +30 guy for most trolling posts

Excited to cheat by playing down guy never left.
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Anonymous wrote:Roster 30 and have a multi month tryout. That will be great for team chemistry.

F me…


30+ players practicing together for the next several months will bring a lot of drama. I'm not sure how the coach can handle that to ensure an effective training session.

Hahahaha....

And you think coaches on top teams are going to roster aug birthdays that are a grade older in school. Nope, theyve got 30 options that arent playing down.
Never met a coach that asked kids their birthday month or cared. Not including trying to figure out new teams for next year. Coaches have no idea who is the youngest or oldest of the team. They only know who is eligible for what team.

Except now tryouts are going to be announced by Grade instead of year.

So yes they will care. Nice try though sneaky pete.
Tryouts are, 8/1-7/31. Your Sept kid will have to fight against that one Aug girl you hate that is taking her position, minutes and lunch money. Don't Jeff Gillooly the girl, seek mental help instead.

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Anonymous wrote:Playing for more than 12 months range is playing down. It is a 12-month age group regardless of your grade.

Playing down is for losers. Everyone should play in their correct age group. When you cannot, you are a loser in most players' opinions.

Playing down is for losers. Unfortunately theres a keyboard warrior defending it. It wont matter, clubs wont let crazy parents embarrass their B team kid by letting them play down a grade on the lower level A team.


What do you mean by playing down?
Explain who’s playing down next year if Aug 2011 to July 2012 is new age group?
MLSN is the only league that allows playing “down” because of biobanding.

Under SY the eligibility window is from 8/1-7/31. If your school district starts 9/1 this means Aug birthday players can play with their grade in school or they can play on a team a grade down.

Most normal people would put their kid on a team with players their grade. Losers that found a loophole will play their kid on the team thats a grade younger. This is called playing down for wins.

The problem with doing this is if you ever want recruiters to take your kid seriously they'll need to play on a team with players their grade when they get older. So why waste everyone's time playing down.

If your Aug birthday kid isn't good enough to play on the A team with players their grade. Have some decency and play on the B team with players their age. Don't steal minutes from some other kid thats a grade below yours.
Players getting to choose to play up is very rare. Name an instance where a club forced a player to play up above their age group or stop complaining. Teams put players on clubs.

Top 20 nationally team.

Our club will let currently trapped players do whatever they want. Maybe they'll choose for the youngers but not the olders.


Just going to give you the facts ECNL has already had a meeting about this and unless a kid is exceptional they want all kids moved into their new age groups to help get this process started
Starting Fall 26.

They will allow kids to play up however they do not want clubs doing what you’re saying. And keeping large groups up and keeping Birth year teams together.

Your club is just keeping face for now so parents think they have nothing to worry about.

You’ll see what I’m talking about after the tryout window is over and you see a bunch of new faces on the team.


No this will not be the case with olders.


You’re living in a fantasy the most recruited age group is u17 so all the kids who are currently U17 but will also be eligible next year to play u17 again will want that string recruitment year again and attend better national events they will not go up to U19 which is the year where everyone puts it in cruise control.

Just this alone will have a domino effect that will push everyone else down so kids can stay on top teams.

Recruiting at u17 started with initial correspondence at u14.

Players dont want to change teams because this might affect anything they have in process with college coaches.

But you know everything.
Change can be scary. Read the cheese movers to calm your nerves. Players don't want to get cut either but it happens every year
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Anonymous wrote:Roster 30 and have a multi month tryout. That will be great for team chemistry.

F me…


30+ players practicing together for the next several months will bring a lot of drama. I'm not sure how the coach can handle that to ensure an effective training session.

Hahahaha....

And you think coaches on top teams are going to roster aug birthdays that are a grade older in school. Nope, theyve got 30 options that arent playing down.
Never met a coach that asked kids their birthday month or cared. Not including trying to figure out new teams for next year. Coaches have no idea who is the youngest or oldest of the team. They only know who is eligible for what team.

Except now tryouts are going to be announced by Grade instead of year.

So yes they will care. Nice try though sneaky pete.


Good to see you are back, delusional and drunk as ever. I also like how you were replying to yourself now. Not even trying to hide it.
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Anonymous wrote:Aug guy competing with +30 guy for most trolling posts

Excited to cheat by playing down guy never left.


Oh he is back! The multiple replies to himself and the outright delusion is hilarious.
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