UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't think anyone is going to turn this guy in.

They need to up the reward to 1 million.

Who would put up that kind of money?

UHC? Yeah, that'll look great for them.

NYPD? Also an awful look, compared to other rewards for other unsolved crimes.

No one wins by catching this guy or offering up a hefty reward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't think anyone is going to turn this guy in.

They need to up the reward to 1 million.

Who would put up that kind of money?

UHC? Yeah, that'll look great for them.

NYPD? Also an awful look, compared to other rewards for other unsolved crimes.

No one wins by catching this guy or offering up a hefty reward.

It's a bad look to not catch this guy. At best, this was vigilante justice, which doesn't fit with doesn't fit with the rule of law.

[Anonymous]

FBI rewards go up to $250k. I'm sure they'll increase it to that amount if this goes on much longer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't think anyone is going to turn this guy in.

They need to up the reward to 1 million.

Who would put up that kind of money?

UHC? Yeah, that'll look great for them.

NYPD? Also an awful look, compared to other rewards for other unsolved crimes.

No one wins by catching this guy or offering up a hefty reward.

BT’s family? It sounds like they have that kind of money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't think anyone is going to turn this guy in.

They need to up the reward to 1 million.

Who would put up that kind of money?

UHC? Yeah, that'll look great for them.

NYPD? Also an awful look, compared to other rewards for other unsolved crimes.

No one wins by catching this guy or offering up a hefty reward.

It's a bad look to not catch this guy. At best, this was vigilante justice, which doesn't fit with doesn't fit with the rule of law.

Well there’s no rule of law for certain people at the top, so that’s ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ben Shapiro trying and failing to put a lid on this resentment.

He’s getting roasted. It’s not left vs right and the usual “oh the leftists are the baddies” narrative isn’t working. If only the rest of the MAGAs could have the same “wait they are just turning us against each other” aha moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't think anyone is going to turn this guy in.

They need to up the reward to 1 million.

Who would put up that kind of money?

UHC? Yeah, that'll look great for them.

NYPD? Also an awful look, compared to other rewards for other unsolved crimes.

No one wins by catching this guy or offering up a hefty reward.

BT’s family? It sounds like they have that kind of money.

PPs said he and his wife were separated. If that’s true, the wife has a lot on her plate, emotionally, logistically, and financially. Putting up a big reward may not be at the top of the list.

[Anonymous]

Speaking of money. . . the backpack had Monopoly money in it.

I thought the guy was sloppy because of the water bottle and stuff. Seems not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't think anyone is going to turn this guy in.

They need to up the reward to 1 million.

Who would put up that kind of money?

UHC? Yeah, that'll look great for them.

NYPD? Also an awful look, compared to other rewards for other unsolved crimes.

No one wins by catching this guy or offering up a hefty reward.

BT’s family? It sounds like they have that kind of money.

PPs said he and his wife were separated. If that’s true, the wife has a lot on her plate, emotionally, logistically, and financially. Putting up a big reward may not be at the top of the list.

I would feel unsafe on a personal level if my spouses killer was on the loose.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't think anyone is going to turn this guy in.

They need to up the reward to 1 million.

Who would put up that kind of money?

UHC? Yeah, that'll look great for them.

NYPD? Also an awful look, compared to other rewards for other unsolved crimes.

No one wins by catching this guy or offering up a hefty reward.

BT’s family? It sounds like they have that kind of money.

PPs said he and his wife were separated. If that’s true, the wife has a lot on her plate, emotionally, logistically, and financially. Putting up a big reward may not be at the top of the list.

I would feel unsafe on a personal level if my spouses killer was on the loose.

They were separated and living separate lives. I'd rather be the wife than a colleague.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

That could be plausible, except for the problems with the gun. Because he was clearly expecting the gun to function again after firing the first shot. Except it didn’t. He tried to fire, realized it hadn’t cycled the action, and then had to cycle it manually to get it to fire again. Then he had to repeat that process several more times. That means he hasn’t previously tested this gun and suppressor combination before. That’s something that a professional would never do - go into a job with untested gear.


Other than that, your theory is plausible.

maybe or he saw it coming.

Looks like a polymer 80 Glock 19 frame with a homemade suppressor that lacked a neilsen device or a lightweight guide rod spring causing the gun to short stroke. That would explain the slide popping out live rounds.

100% agree. Homemade ‘can with no booster. Amateur.

I know nothing about firearms, but a friend said it’s possible he used subsonic bullets to be quieter, which would mean he would have to cycle it manually.

I have several suppressors designed to function on various semiauto pistols (they all have pistons/recoil boosters) and they will all fire subsonic ammo without any problems at all. The most common pistol I shoot suppressed is a Glock 17 with 147 grain subsonic ammo, and the heavier than normal bullet (most 9mm is 115-124 grain) actually increases recoil slightly because it’s a larger mass being moved compared to the lighter supersonic bullets the pistol normally fires without a suppressor on it.

How did you end up with this level of depth and proficiency with firearms?

I first learned to shoot when I was maybe 6 or 7, courtesy of my grandfather, and then later in the Boy Scouts I began shooting small bore rifles competitively and teaching other Scouts how to earn their Marksmanship Merit Badge. I went on to shooting combat/defensive pistol matches on a team during high school, college and shortly after, until work life became more all-consuming. The team I was part of at one point was in the top ten such teams in the country. We were frequently booked as consultants/trainers for local police specialty teams (like SWAT/ERT).

I haven’t shot competitively or instructed since probably 2000. But I still try to shoot at least every week or two, at home on a backyard range. I use the suppressors most of the time so I’m not annoying my neighbors. You’re allowed to shoot on your own property here, but using a silencer is still good manners.

Are you from Michigan

No, Middle Peninsula of Virginia, a little area called Dutton. Not even a town.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does the Monopoly money mean?

It’s a term used when somebody has so much money that it’s meaningless at some point.

I’ll say something like oh so Joe bought his seventh house and third yachthe’s just playing with Monopoly money at this point.

Or could be a reference to the DOJ antitrust investigation - as someone else brought up. Antitrust laws prohibit conduct by a single firm that unreasonably restrains competition by creating or maintaining monopoly power.

It's MONOPOLY.
UHC is big into vertical and lateral integration. DOJ antitrust investigation.
Wikipedia:
UnitedHealth Group Incorporated is an American multinational health insurance and services company based in Minnetonka, Minnesota. Selling insurance products under UnitedHealthcare, and health care services under the Optum brand, it is the world's ninth-largest company by revenue and the largest health care company by revenue.
UHC has also been doing pharmacy benefit management services since the 80s. I always have to look up how this works because its a slick scheme, but it sort of amounts to legal kickbacks and increase Rx prices.
There's also a complicated trick where they can use their setup to actually exceed the 20% cap on insurance profits via transactions among different subsidiaries (profits will not appear to be more than the cap). I don't know to what extent UHC has been able to exploit this, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they find the guy it is going to be hard to find 12 people who are going to unanimously find him guilty.

I imagine one person goes with jury nullification and votes not guilty.

This is a horrific conclusion, which unfortunately, I believe may be true.

Jeff rightly blogged about how shocked he was at the number of DCUMAD posters who celebrated this cold-blooded murder, and some even encouraged more ruthless murders of CEOs who are simply doing their job.

Some of you are demonstrating true mental illness (dangerous, murderous), mental illness in this regard.

To those people: I pray you get the professional help you clearly need and turn away from supporting murder. Seriously.

Sorry, your claim has been denied. You are out of network.

It is impossible to find mental health care that takes insurance. Most people can't pay $200 and hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Speaking of money. . . the backpack had Monopoly money in it.

I thought the guy was sloppy because of the water bottle and stuff. Seems not.

I wonder if he left other clues on purpose and they haven’t found them yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Speaking of money. . . the backpack had Monopoly money in it.

I thought the guy was sloppy because of the water bottle and stuff. Seems not.

The engraved bullets, the staring straight into a camera in a cab, the monopoly money, evading capture as long as he has... Guy may not be a pro (I don't think he is and never have) but he's clearly pretty smart and playing games. Combined with public sentiment, I think he is on the run for awhile and people won't be eager to to turn him in. FBI and police are people too, who are probably aware pics of him in handcuffs won't exactly make them look like heroes so who knows how committed they remain, especially if it turns out he jumped on an international flight same day and things goes on for awhile.