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[Anonymous]

Clearly there is disparity within the organization. Continue to complain here or fill out the Valor survey.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

[Anonymous]

You probably would only think of it as bait and switch if your child got moved down. If your child got moved up you would think it was the coach recognizing their potential and the club was doing the right thing..

Most clubs have language saying that there can be movement between teams during the year in the initial offer. People say they want team placement to be performance based until it negatively impacts your child

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Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

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Anonymous wrote:You probably would only think of it as bait and switch if your child got moved down. If your child got moved up you would think it was the coach recognizing their potential and the club was doing the right thing..

Most clubs have language saying that there can be movement between teams during the year in the initial offer. People say they want team placement to be performance based until it negatively impacts your child

Yeah.. Sounds like this person was really upset that their child was moved from PURPLE to pink. Not sure how I would cope with it. Hope they found some peace and a better club for their needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

If you cannot keep up, you are demoted, simple as that. There is no contract about team placement. You are only accepted to the club.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

If you cannot keep up, you are demoted, simple as that. There is no contract about team placement. You are only accepted to the club.

it simply doesnt happen. If a kid moved down its by parent choice.. mid season. Trust me it happened you would have a ton of complaints. Was the age group doing an academy style?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

If you cannot keep up, you are demoted, simple as that. There is no contract about team placement. You are only accepted to the club.

it simply doesnt happen. If a kid moved down its by parent choice.. mid season. Trust me it happened you would have a ton of complaints. Was the age group doing an academy style?

You sure are confident for someone who is so wrong. It is not the parents that chose for their kids to move down. And no the age group was not doing full academy style, the age group all practiced at the same time but there were teams each with their own rosters. It was made clear from the get go that kids can be moved up or down and that coaches of the different teams communicate with one another about this on a regular basis. There is more evaluating going on than the coaches necessarily communicate. Moving kids down can make their parents upset, but not moving anyone down can upset an even bigger number of parents -- the ones of the kids on that higher team AND the ones of the kids on the lower team who clearly need to move up.

Maybe you are delusional about your child's ability, but I think most parents know deep down if their kid doesn't belong on a team. It's not fair to all the other kids to keep kids on teams where they don't belong. Wouldn't you as a parent want your kid to be on a team where they are valued? Some people have left at the end of the season after their kid was moved down, but a few did not. Maybe those parents just take it for what it is and don't get all psycho about kid soccer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

If you cannot keep up, you are demoted, simple as that. There is no contract about team placement. You are only accepted to the club.

it simply doesnt happen. If a kid moved down its by parent choice.. mid season. Trust me it happened you would have a ton of complaints. Was the age group doing an academy style?

You sure are confident for someone who is so wrong. It is not the parents that chose for their kids to move down. And no the age group was not doing full academy style, the age group all practiced at the same time but there were teams each with their own rosters. It was made clear from the get go that kids can be moved up or down and that coaches of the different teams communicate with one another about this on a regular basis. There is more evaluating going on than the coaches necessarily communicate. Moving kids down can make their parents upset, but not moving anyone down can upset an even bigger number of parents -- the ones of the kids on that higher team AND the ones of the kids on the lower team who clearly need to move up.

Maybe you are delusional about your child's ability, but I think most parents know deep down if their kid doesn't belong on a team. It's not fair to all the other kids to keep kids on teams where they don't belong. Wouldn't you as a parent want your kid to be on a team where they are valued? Some people have left at the end of the season after their kid was moved down, but a few did not. Maybe those parents just take it for what it is and don't get all psycho about kid soccer.

My kid tried out for Valor, they sent an email saying specifically my child was invited to join the "Valor White" team. Now I accept that and pay my $3000. We have a contract for the Valor WHITE team. If they move my kid down to the purple team or whatever, they have broken the contract.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

If you cannot keep up, you are demoted, simple as that. There is no contract about team placement. You are only accepted to the club.

it simply doesnt happen. If a kid moved down its by parent choice.. mid season. Trust me it happened you would have a ton of complaints. Was the age group doing an academy style?

You sure are confident for someone who is so wrong. It is not the parents that chose for their kids to move down. And no the age group was not doing full academy style, the age group all practiced at the same time but there were teams each with their own rosters. It was made clear from the get go that kids can be moved up or down and that coaches of the different teams communicate with one another about this on a regular basis. There is more evaluating going on than the coaches necessarily communicate. Moving kids down can make their parents upset, but not moving anyone down can upset an even bigger number of parents -- the ones of the kids on that higher team AND the ones of the kids on the lower team who clearly need to move up.

Maybe you are delusional about your child's ability, but I think most parents know deep down if their kid doesn't belong on a team. It's not fair to all the other kids to keep kids on teams where they don't belong. Wouldn't you as a parent want your kid to be on a team where they are valued? Some people have left at the end of the season after their kid was moved down, but a few did not. Maybe those parents just take it for what it is and don't get all psycho about kid soccer.

An age group so young that all the teams were practicing at the same time? That's academy style.
The youngest age group at Valor were sent "you made Valor team" emails without a team designation, then they sorted through them in August and assigned them teams. In that situation, I can see them moving kids around

They are loathe to demote kids in the older ages who were selected for speciific reasons b/c it means losing paying customers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

If you cannot keep up, you are demoted, simple as that. There is no contract about team placement. You are only accepted to the club.

it simply doesnt happen. If a kid moved down its by parent choice.. mid season. Trust me it happened you would have a ton of complaints. Was the age group doing an academy style?

You sure are confident for someone who is so wrong. It is not the parents that chose for their kids to move down. And no the age group was not doing full academy style, the age group all practiced at the same time but there were teams each with their own rosters. It was made clear from the get go that kids can be moved up or down and that coaches of the different teams communicate with one another about this on a regular basis. There is more evaluating going on than the coaches necessarily communicate. Moving kids down can make their parents upset, but not moving anyone down can upset an even bigger number of parents -- the ones of the kids on that higher team AND the ones of the kids on the lower team who clearly need to move up.

Maybe you are delusional about your child's ability, but I think most parents know deep down if their kid doesn't belong on a team. It's not fair to all the other kids to keep kids on teams where they don't belong. Wouldn't you as a parent want your kid to be on a team where they are valued? Some people have left at the end of the season after their kid was moved down, but a few did not. Maybe those parents just take it for what it is and don't get all psycho about kid soccer.

My kid tried out for Valor, they sent an email saying specifically my child was invited to join the "Valor White" team. Now I accept that and pay my $3000. We have a contract for the Valor WHITE team. If they move my kid down to the purple team or whatever, they have broken the contract.

Go back and look at the thing you actually signed. I saved a copy to my computer (I wanted access to the wording in case we wanted to leave before the season was over, as I had reservations about signing on again). It says nothing about a specific team name. Just the club. And the very first bullet point under the parent agreement part is that you will accept your child's team placement. Clicking the "accept" button on an email that contains an offer with a team name is not the same as signing a contract, and I am sure the club leans on that fact if parents complain.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

If you cannot keep up, you are demoted, simple as that. There is no contract about team placement. You are only accepted to the club.

it simply doesnt happen. If a kid moved down its by parent choice.. mid season. Trust me it happened you would have a ton of complaints. Was the age group doing an academy style?

You sure are confident for someone who is so wrong. It is not the parents that chose for their kids to move down. And no the age group was not doing full academy style, the age group all practiced at the same time but there were teams each with their own rosters. It was made clear from the get go that kids can be moved up or down and that coaches of the different teams communicate with one another about this on a regular basis. There is more evaluating going on than the coaches necessarily communicate. Moving kids down can make their parents upset, but not moving anyone down can upset an even bigger number of parents -- the ones of the kids on that higher team AND the ones of the kids on the lower team who clearly need to move up.

Maybe you are delusional about your child's ability, but I think most parents know deep down if their kid doesn't belong on a team. It's not fair to all the other kids to keep kids on teams where they don't belong. Wouldn't you as a parent want your kid to be on a team where they are valued? Some people have left at the end of the season after their kid was moved down, but a few did not. Maybe those parents just take it for what it is and don't get all psycho about kid soccer.

An age group so young that all the teams were practicing at the same time? That's academy style.
The youngest age group at Valor were sent "you made Valor team" emails without a team designation, then they sorted through them in August and assigned them teams. In that situation, I can see them moving kids around

They are loathe to demote kids in the older ages who were selected for speciific reasons b/c it means losing paying customers.

Multiple posters said movements happened in their kids' age groups under U13. No one was talking about older than that... but not necessarily just U9 either.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there more people leaving from lower or higher tiered teams? Is moving up truly a rare occasion at valor? If it happens, when does it happen the most (mid season, during winter break, during summer break)? Is another kid getting moved down or is a vacant spot being filled?

Your child will only be moved up after tryouts in spring for the next season. IF there is an open spot on the next higher up team. If there are players on the next higher up team who are weaker than your player, your kid will not bump them for their spot as they are paying customers and Valor values that far more than accurate team placement.

This is simply not accurate as a blanket statement. Multiple kids in my child’s age group have been moved up midseason in previous years. Including from second team to top team. Other kids have been moved down to make room for the ones who got moved up. We have even seen a bit of movement in the middle of a season but that’s more rare. I suspect midseason changes are coming again based on things the coach has said.

I don’t know what happens in other age groups, but PP should not speak as though they know what’s happening across the whole club. Valor definitely has issues but it’s just not true that changes are only made after spring tryouts. Sounds like PP’s experience was a problem with a specific coach being too chicken to piss off certain parents. I have been surprised at how many kids who have been moved down (or not moved
up) actually stay. Some have left, but most have stayed. I think some of them know they’d be on an even lower team elsewhere.

This sounds like bait and switch to me. A parent accepted a spot on VALOR PURPLE for the entire year. How can they take their $3000 and then midway thru the season, move them down to the Valor Pink team? They aren't getting what they paid for, a spot on the Valor Purple team.

I cannot imagine trying to use that argument to fight my child being moved down. How embarrassing! If a coach clearly thinks your kid isn’t good enough for their team why would you insist they stay on that team. That sounds like it would be very awkward for everyone.

If the club lets them out of their contract or gives them a refund for the remainder of the season, its reasonable. But people contracted for the Purple team, not just any team.

If you cannot keep up, you are demoted, simple as that. There is no contract about team placement. You are only accepted to the club.

it simply doesnt happen. If a kid moved down its by parent choice.. mid season. Trust me it happened you would have a ton of complaints. Was the age group doing an academy style?

You sure are confident for someone who is so wrong. It is not the parents that chose for their kids to move down. And no the age group was not doing full academy style, the age group all practiced at the same time but there were teams each with their own rosters. It was made clear from the get go that kids can be moved up or down and that coaches of the different teams communicate with one another about this on a regular basis. There is more evaluating going on than the coaches necessarily communicate. Moving kids down can make their parents upset, but not moving anyone down can upset an even bigger number of parents -- the ones of the kids on that higher team AND the ones of the kids on the lower team who clearly need to move up.

Maybe you are delusional about your child's ability, but I think most parents know deep down if their kid doesn't belong on a team. It's not fair to all the other kids to keep kids on teams where they don't belong. Wouldn't you as a parent want your kid to be on a team where they are valued? Some people have left at the end of the season after their kid was moved down, but a few did not. Maybe those parents just take it for what it is and don't get all psycho about kid soccer.

My kid tried out for Valor, they sent an email saying specifically my child was invited to join the "Valor White" team. Now I accept that and pay my $3000. We have a contract for the Valor WHITE team. If they move my kid down to the purple team or whatever, they have broken the contract.

Go back and look at the thing you actually signed. I saved a copy to my computer (I wanted access to the wording in case we wanted to leave before the season was over, as I had reservations about signing on again). It says nothing about a specific team name. Just the club. And the very first bullet point under the parent agreement part is that you will accept your child's team placement. Clicking the "accept" button on an email that contains an offer with a team name is not the same as signing a contract, and I am sure the club leans on that fact if parents complain.

Does the agreement say you agree they can change your childs team at any time

[Anonymous]

Player and Parent Commitment agreement states “Accept the team placement of my player”.