Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:A poll in a New York Post article showed that 60 percent of their readers side with Justin Baldoni..I am really sorry for the Blake Lively fan club that the relentless arguing with those who do not like Blake has not resulted in a more positive image for her.

Actually the point repeatedly being obscured is that whether she is likeable is irrelevant.

Her legit RETALIATION claim and evidence of that is and will be absolutely relevant, legally speaking

But people judge the demeanor of witnesses in court and it does matter if people like them. They are less likely to believe people they do not like.

Facts of the case matter most. Keep trying though.

Dp, but those don’t appear to be in her favor either.

We'll see. Gwyneth Paltrow is not a fan favorite here either but she won her case. Don't hold your breath PP.

GP was the defendant. She didnt have the burden of proof

But we're not talking about proof. Remember likability is all that matters according to some. It matters if people like them and I distinctly recall people didn't like Gwyneth or her demeanor in court but the facts win in the end, don't they?

Blake is not liked and her behavior with respect to the movie is also being viewed unfavorably and we haven’t even seen his counterclaim or all the texts. I don’t think this will go to trial, Blake and Ryan will want to avoid discovery. At this point, they will want to try to save Ryan’s career, if they can. Hers is likely over, at least with respect to independent productions.

She's the one who filed the suit so she's not the one who's going to try to avoid discovery.

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Anonymous wrote:A poll in a New York Post article showed that 60 percent of their readers side with Justin Baldoni..I am really sorry for the Blake Lively fan club that the relentless arguing with those who do not like Blake has not resulted in a more positive image for her.

Actually the point repeatedly being obscured is that whether she is likeable is irrelevant.

Her legit RETALIATION claim and evidence of that is and will be absolutely relevant, legally speaking

But people judge the demeanor of witnesses in court and it does matter if people like them. They are less likely to believe people they do not like.

Facts of the case matter most. Keep trying though.

Dp, but those don’t appear to be in her favor either.

We'll see. Gwyneth Paltrow is not a fan favorite here either but she won her case. Don't hold your breath PP.

GP was the defendant. She didnt have the burden of proof

But we're not talking about proof. Remember likability is all that matters according to some. It matters if people like them and I distinctly recall people didn't like Gwyneth or her demeanor in court but the facts win in the end, don't they?

I propose that whenever a woman claims sexual harassment, the trial should establish how likeable she is and go over her entire sexual history to establish whether she is a slut.

That should not happen, but because Blake and Ryan are well known it will be very hard to find jurors who do not already have an opinion of them. If I were her attorney I would try to stack the jury with senior citizens who have no clue about their films and shows. It would be the equivalent of me being asked about Zendaya. I've never seen any movie or TV show from her or her boyfriend and have no opinion except that she's pretty.

You are sorely mistaken. Not many people over 50 have a clue who they are much less of an opinion. They don't watch their movies and they are on TikTok reading about them. This is mainly occupying bored millennial women.

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Anonymous wrote:A poll in a New York Post article showed that 60 percent of their readers side with Justin Baldoni..I am really sorry for the Blake Lively fan club that the relentless arguing with those who do not like Blake has not resulted in a more positive image for her.

Actually the point repeatedly being obscured is that whether she is likeable is irrelevant.

Her legit RETALIATION claim and evidence of that is and will be absolutely relevant, legally speaking

But people judge the demeanor of witnesses in court and it does matter if people like them. They are less likely to believe people they do not like.

Facts of the case matter most. Keep trying though.

Dp, but those don’t appear to be in her favor either.

We'll see. Gwyneth Paltrow is not a fan favorite here either but she won her case. Don't hold your breath PP.

GP was the defendant. She didnt have the burden of proof

But we're not talking about proof. Remember likability is all that matters according to some. It matters if people like them and I distinctly recall people didn't like Gwyneth or her demeanor in court but the facts win in the end, don't they?

I propose that whenever a woman claims sexual harassment, the trial should establish how likeable she is and go over her entire sexual history to establish whether she is a slut.

That should not happen, but because Blake and Ryan are well known it will be very hard to find jurors who do not already have an opinion of them. If I were her attorney I would try to stack the jury with senior citizens who have no clue about their films and shows. It would be the equivalent of me being asked about Zendaya. I've never seen any movie or TV show from her or her boyfriend and have no opinion except that she's pretty.

You are sorely mistaken. Not many people over 50 have a clue who they are much less of an opinion. They don't watch their movies and they are on TikTok reading about them. This is mainly occupying bored millennial women.

You anre wrong. I’m over 50 and am well aware of who they are. Ryan is basically 50.

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Anonymous wrote:A poll in a New York Post article showed that 60 percent of their readers side with Justin Baldoni..I am really sorry for the Blake Lively fan club that the relentless arguing with those who do not like Blake has not resulted in a more positive image for her.

Actually the point repeatedly being obscured is that whether she is likeable is irrelevant.

Her legit RETALIATION claim and evidence of that is and will be absolutely relevant, legally speaking

But people judge the demeanor of witnesses in court and it does matter if people like them. They are less likely to believe people they do not like.

Facts of the case matter most. Keep trying though.

Dp, but those don’t appear to be in her favor either.

We'll see. Gwyneth Paltrow is not a fan favorite here either but she won her case. Don't hold your breath PP.

GP was the defendant. She didnt have the burden of proof

But we're not talking about proof. Remember likability is all that matters according to some. It matters if people like them and I distinctly recall people didn't like Gwyneth or her demeanor in court but the facts win in the end, don't they?

Blake is not liked and her behavior with respect to the movie is also being viewed unfavorably and we haven’t even seen his counterclaim or all the texts. I don’t think this will go to trial, Blake and Ryan will want to avoid discovery. At this point, they will want to try to save Ryan’s career, if they can. Hers is likely over, at least with respect to independent productions.

She's the one who filed the suit so she's not the one who's going to try to avoid discovery.

We’ll see. I think her suit will settle long before trial.

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Anonymous wrote:A poll in a New York Post article showed that 60 percent of their readers side with Justin Baldoni..I am really sorry for the Blake Lively fan club that the relentless arguing with those who do not like Blake has not resulted in a more positive image for her.

Actually the point repeatedly being obscured is that whether she is likeable is irrelevant.

Her legit RETALIATION claim and evidence of that is and will be absolutely relevant, legally speaking

But people judge the demeanor of witnesses in court and it does matter if people like them. They are less likely to believe people they do not like.

Facts of the case matter most. Keep trying though.

Dp, but those don’t appear to be in her favor either.

We'll see. Gwyneth Paltrow is not a fan favorite here either but she won her case. Don't hold your breath PP.

GP was the defendant. She didnt have the burden of proof

But we're not talking about proof. Remember likability is all that matters according to some. It matters if people like them and I distinctly recall people didn't like Gwyneth or her demeanor in court but the facts win in the end, don't they?

I propose that whenever a woman claims sexual harassment, the trial should establish how likeable she is and go over her entire sexual history to establish whether she is a slut.

That should not happen, but because Blake and Ryan are well known it will be very hard to find jurors who do not already have an opinion of them. If I were her attorney I would try to stack the jury with senior citizens who have no clue about their films and shows. It would be the equivalent of me being asked about Zendaya. I've never seen any movie or TV show from her or her boyfriend and have no opinion except that she's pretty.

You are sorely mistaken. Not many people over 50 have a clue who they are much less of an opinion. They don't watch their movies and they are on TikTok reading about them. This is mainly occupying bored millennial women.

I am 50, and I've known Ryan since he was on that pizza sitcom in the 1990's.

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Most ridiculous part of this was a male co-worker needing to show his female co-worker an explicit video of his wife giving childbirth to a mother of 4 with a new born so she could get how child birth should be protrayed in the movie - and this is all based on the facts shared by his side

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Anonymous wrote:A poll in a New York Post article showed that 60 percent of their readers side with Justin Baldoni..I am really sorry for the Blake Lively fan club that the relentless arguing with those who do not like Blake has not resulted in a more positive image for her.

Actually the point repeatedly being obscured is that whether she is likeable is irrelevant.

Her legit RETALIATION claim and evidence of that is and will be absolutely relevant, legally speaking

But people judge the demeanor of witnesses in court and it does matter if people like them. They are less likely to believe people they do not like.

Facts of the case matter most. Keep trying though.

Dp, but those don’t appear to be in her favor either.

We'll see. Gwyneth Paltrow is not a fan favorite here either but she won her case. Don't hold your breath PP.

GP was the defendant. She didnt have the burden of proof

But we're not talking about proof. Remember likability is all that matters according to some. It matters if people like them and I distinctly recall people didn't like Gwyneth or her demeanor in court but the facts win in the end, don't they?

I propose that whenever a woman claims sexual harassment, the trial should establish how likeable she is and go over her entire sexual history to establish whether she is a slut.

That should not happen, but because Blake and Ryan are well known it will be very hard to find jurors who do not already have an opinion of them. If I were her attorney I would try to stack the jury with senior citizens who have no clue about their films and shows. It would be the equivalent of me being asked about Zendaya. I've never seen any movie or TV show from her or her boyfriend and have no opinion except that she's pretty.

You are sorely mistaken. Not many people over 50 have a clue who they are much less of an opinion. They don't watch their movies and they are on TikTok reading about them. This is mainly occupying bored millennial women.

I am 50, and I've known Ryan since he was on that pizza sitcom in the 1990's.

Ask the men in your life if they know or care who Blake is. They probably know who Deadpool is if they are young. But guys aren’t like “gee there is something just so unlikable about Blake!”

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Anonymous wrote:Most ridiculous part of this was a male co-worker needing to show his female co-worker an explicit video of his wife giving childbirth to a mother of 4 with a new born so she could get how child birth should be protrayed in the movie - and this is all based on the facts shared by his side

Or perhaps more ridiculous to label such movie porn?

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Anonymous wrote:A poll in a New York Post article showed that 60 percent of their readers side with Justin Baldoni..I am really sorry for the Blake Lively fan club that the relentless arguing with those who do not like Blake has not resulted in a more positive image for her.

Actually the point repeatedly being obscured is that whether she is likeable is irrelevant.

Her legit RETALIATION claim and evidence of that is and will be absolutely relevant, legally speaking

But people judge the demeanor of witnesses in court and it does matter if people like them. They are less likely to believe people they do not like.

Facts of the case matter most. Keep trying though.

Dp, but those don’t appear to be in her favor either.

We'll see. Gwyneth Paltrow is not a fan favorite here either but she won her case. Don't hold your breath PP.

GP was the defendant. She didnt have the burden of proof

But we're not talking about proof. Remember likability is all that matters according to some. It matters if people like them and I distinctly recall people didn't like Gwyneth or her demeanor in court but the facts win in the end, don't they?

I propose that whenever a woman claims sexual harassment, the trial should establish how likeable she is and go over her entire sexual history to establish whether she is a slut.

That should not happen, but because Blake and Ryan are well known it will be very hard to find jurors who do not already have an opinion of them. If I were her attorney I would try to stack the jury with senior citizens who have no clue about their films and shows. It would be the equivalent of me being asked about Zendaya. I've never seen any movie or TV show from her or her boyfriend and have no opinion except that she's pretty.

You are sorely mistaken. Not many people over 50 have a clue who they are much less of an opinion. They don't watch their movies and they are on TikTok reading about them. This is mainly occupying bored millennial women.

I am 50, and I've known Ryan since he was on that pizza sitcom in the 1990's.

Ask the men in your life if they know or care who Blake is. They probably know who Deadpool is if they are young. But guys aren’t like “gee there is something just so unlikable about Blake!”

They may not “care,” but I think she is pretty well known from Gossip Girl among both men and women, and I am Gen X.

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Anonymous wrote:Most ridiculous part of this was a male co-worker needing to show his female co-worker an explicit video of his wife giving childbirth to a mother of 4 with a new born so she could get how child birth should be protrayed in the movie - and this is all based on the facts shared by his side

Or perhaps more ridiculous to label such movie porn?

What would a better name be for unwanted nudity thrust upon you?

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Anonymous wrote:Most ridiculous part of this was a male co-worker needing to show his female co-worker an explicit video of his wife giving childbirth to a mother of 4 with a new born so she could get how child birth should be protrayed in the movie - and this is all based on the facts shared by his side

Or perhaps more ridiculous to label such movie porn?

What would a better name be for unwanted nudity thrust upon you?

And this is when you lose all credibility.

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the porn complaints were different than the birthing videos at least according to the NYTimes

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Anonymous wrote:Most ridiculous part of this was a male co-worker needing to show his female co-worker an explicit video of his wife giving childbirth to a mother of 4 with a new born so she could get how child birth should be protrayed in the movie - and this is all based on the facts shared by his side

Or perhaps more ridiculous to label such movie porn?

Did the complaint call the video porn? it's a graphic video. It is not appropriate to show someone you work with graphic content without their permission (or in most cases at all, but you could argue this was related to their work -- however you still need consent).

I think you are confusing this with the separate allegation that on multiple occasions Baldoni and his production partner discussed their prior port addictions with Lively. According to her complaint, Baldoni asked her about porn and she stated she'd never watched it, and he responded to this by bringing it up with a larger group of cast and crew, sharing with them that Lively said she'd never seen porn.

I can't imagine defending this kind of behavior. I mean Lively will have to prove it happened, but some of these details aren't even disputed by Baldoni or Wayfarer and others have multiple witnesses. None of this is borderline behavior IMO -- this is pretty textbook hostile work environment stuff. She has a very strong case.

I actually think Baldoni & Co are going to wind up settling this case for a lot of money. When you add in the online smear campaign and the fact that Lively can claim this had a negative impact on her overall reputation but also specifically the sales of her product lines, I think think it's going to be a huge settlement. If it goes to trial it could be worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Most ridiculous part of this was a male co-worker needing to show his female co-worker an explicit video of his wife giving childbirth to a mother of 4 with a new born so she could get how child birth should be protrayed in the movie - and this is all based on the facts shared by his side

Or perhaps more ridiculous to label such movie porn?

Agree. Most reasonable people would call it mansplaining and incredibly obnoxious, but I’m not sure it constitutes being shown p$rn at work.

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Anonymous wrote:the porn complaints were different than the birthing videos at least according to the NYTimes

From Blake’s complaint, : “To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth.”

and “Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied ‘She isn’t weird about this stuff,’ as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video.”

And his response.

The Times compounded its journalistic failures by uncritically advancing Lively’s unsubstantiated claims of sexual harassment against Heath and Baldoni. For example, the Article, based on Lively’s [complaint], sensationally alleges that ‘Mr. Heath had shown [Lively] a video of his naked wife,’ with Lively’s [complaint] even labeling the footage as pornography.’ This claim is patently absurd. The video in question was a (non-pornographic) recording of Heath’s wife and baby during a home birth—a deeply personal one with no sexual overtone.”

“The video was shown to Lively as part of a creative discussion in preparation for a birthing scene in the Film. Heath informed Lively that his wife condoned his displaying the video. Any suggestion that Heath engaged in the exhibition of pornography or inappropriate content is false.”