Any other families finally had enough of DC?

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High crime rates, means the grocery stores have to be more locked down, less items close to the doors or even outside.

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Anonymous wrote:Almost all homicides in DC are among persons known to each other. In other words, if you don't hang out with criminals and drug dealers, you don't have to worry about being murdered. A typical UMC white woman is at a greater risk of being murdered by the man sleeping in her bed than a stranger on the streets of DC.

This trope response has started to really bother and puzzle me. I think you misunderstand that concern about crime doesn’t JUST mean fear for ones self. Now we can’t be upset about actual murder- just because we don’t know the perpetrators or victims? I’m very much against violent crime and murder of anyone- not just those I hang out with. Two drug deal related shootings happened outside my house off Georgia Ave years ago. But according to this logic I shouldn’t have been bothered since hey, I didn’t hang out with them.

+1. Yeah it’s a terribly misguided coping mechanism. Innocent people and even innocent children are being murdered by stray gunfire in DC, but I guess that’s supposed to be not so bad since I don’t know the kids and they don’t live in my neighborhood??

23:52 here. I hadn’t made it through the entire thread before I posted. PPs, you said it much better than I did.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff should change the name of this website to Hysterical DC Urban Moms Who Should Be Clutching Their Pearls in the Suburbs.

DCUM: Where we take pride in our crime rates!

Right? The “if you don’t like crime, then you belong in the suburbs” mentality is so trite and played out.

The premise of this thread is literally "any other families finally had enough of DC?". It's hardly a stretch to infer that some of you would be happier in the suburbs. Was that not OP's point? DP.

Deciding where to live a complex, multifaceted, and interesting topic. Empty “if you don’t like crime, move to the suburbs” comments are just goofy and don’t contribute anything meaningful. I suspect they’re mostly made by naive city dwellers without children and people who just generally have low standards in life.

This, maybe? I was born in DC (not the Upper Caucasia part) and I sometimes wonder if these posters really hear what they’re saying. I get that they’re trying to be cool urbanites showing off their street cred, but taking any issue with crime rates=take to the Beltway?

Alrighty.

And it’s insulting to all the community leaders who worked so hard, particularly through the 60s-90s, to fight for change in DC. Imagine if they had taken on the same attitude.

Seriously, people. Try harder. It’s easy to be like “oh big deal” until it’s your kid shot in a botched robbery, or you’re pistol-whipped for your bag.

Do better, expect better.

Move to Arlington?

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Anonymous wrote:For years I used to drive to DC to play league tennis at several different locations. Now, I’m honestly too scared to even drive into some of those areas. I cannot imagine living there and raising a family. OP needs to drive out to the suburbs and see the difference in lifestyle. Not perfect, but a completely different world. Your family’s safety should be top priority, IMO.

DCUM is just so disappointing these days. Like seriously we have to wade around in this sort of BS all of the time. So tiring. I wish you all would go off to Fairfax Underground or something.

Seriously. These are Tea Party era R's whinging, pay no heed. They hate Bowser--they've clearly never lived in a city in their lives if they think DC gov't is mismanaged. Try living in Philly or DC or Boston! I've lived in all three--and DC is no worse than the others--actually, better in some respects. Off to the 'burbs with the whingers!

CYA

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I don’t get it OP. DC is so safe relative to its recent history. When did you move here??

Why is everyone assuming this is a good faith question?

I am voting for conservative troll who lives in Tennessee.

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Anonymous wrote:For years I used to drive to DC to play league tennis at several different locations. Now, I’m honestly too scared to even drive into some of those areas. I cannot imagine living there and raising a family. OP needs to drive out to the suburbs and see the difference in lifestyle. Not perfect, but a completely different world. Your family’s safety should be top priority, IMO.

DCUM is just so disappointing these days. Like seriously we have to wade around in this sort of BS all of the time. So tiring. I wish you all would go off to Fairfax Underground or something.

Seriously. These are Tea Party era R's whinging, pay no heed. They hate Bowser--they've clearly never lived in a city in their lives if they think DC gov't is mismanaged. Try living in Philly or DC or Boston! I've lived in all three--and DC is no worse than the others--actually, better in some respects. Off to the 'burbs with the whingers!

CYA

I don’t care where you lived. It’s not an interesting challenge to me. But I do think you’re a bad person if you’re not bothered by violent crimes and murders in your community.

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I'm over DC for the general rudeness of people to one another.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm over DC for the general rudeness of people to one another.

Agree. It’s not a very warm and friendly place. It’s full of greedy, cynical, grievance-oriented people.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm over DC for the general rudeness of people to one another.

Especially on the message boards.

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Anonymous wrote:For years I used to drive to DC to play league tennis at several different locations. Now, I’m honestly too scared to even drive into some of those areas. I cannot imagine living there and raising a family. OP needs to drive out to the suburbs and see the difference in lifestyle. Not perfect, but a completely different world. Your family’s safety should be top priority, IMO.

DCUM is just so disappointing these days. Like seriously we have to wade around in this sort of BS all of the time. So tiring. I wish you all would go off to Fairfax Underground or something.

Seriously. These are Tea Party era R's whinging, pay no heed. They hate Bowser--they've clearly never lived in a city in their lives if they think DC gov't is mismanaged. Try living in Philly or DC or Boston! I've lived in all three--and DC is no worse than the others--actually, better in some respects. Off to the 'burbs with the whingers!

CYA

I don’t care where you lived. It’s not an interesting challenge to me. But I do think you’re a bad person if you’re not bothered by violent crimes and murders in your community.

They don't care because they have options and are mostly insulated from it.

It's not street-cred, it's not some sort of cool metropolitan ennui -- it's classist and selfish.

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I got sick of all the posers from Ass F**k, Ohio.

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When the sister of my student was murdered last year (stil an unsolved homicide) and two of my neighbors were robbed at gunpoint in our supposedly "good" neighborhood, the violence did affect me even though I was not a target. I didn't want to move but had zero faith in elected officials to effectively deal with rising crime and actually care about crime victims.

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Or .... we could respect each other’s personal property I am not goi g to steal your car because it’s running and has the keys in it. But I was raised that way, wait a minute, no forget it.

+1. Right? I have so many family members who live in places where they don’t have to constantly keep track of whether they locked all the doors and did all of the other things to fortify the home for another day.

The Montgomery County police keep reminding people to not leave their cars parked with the keys inside. In case you're thinking that this is a purely DC issue.

Also, speaking of fortifying the home - I lived in DC when everyone who could, put bars on all of their windows. I'm not seeing that now.

Me, too. But I believe the point of the thread is that some people are starting to feel like those days are returning.

Windows are all double paned now with super thick glass. Much more secure than in the past. Hard to break. Not a major reason to use bars for security anymore.

Also, more people now use ADT or other security, where in the past bars on windows and calling 911 was your home security system.

These are very different times.

There are still bars on windows on upper 16th Street, in the area near Children’s. And did Georgetowners really remove them from their basement apartments?

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff should change the name of this website to Hysterical DC Urban Moms Who Should Be Clutching Their Pearls in the Suburbs.

DCUM: Where we take pride in our crime rates!

Right? The “if you don’t like crime, then you belong in the suburbs” mentality is so trite and played out.

The premise of this thread is literally "any other families finally had enough of DC?". It's hardly a stretch to infer that some of you would be happier in the suburbs. Was that not OP's point? DP.

Deciding where to live a complex, multifaceted, and interesting topic. Empty “if you don’t like crime, move to the suburbs” comments are just goofy and don’t contribute anything meaningful. I suspect they’re mostly made by naive city dwellers without children and people who just generally have low standards in life.

This, maybe? I was born in DC (not the Upper Caucasia part) and I sometimes wonder if these posters really hear what they’re saying. I get that they’re trying to be cool urbanites showing off their street cred, but taking any issue with crime rates=take to the Beltway?

Alrighty.

And it’s insulting to all the community leaders who worked so hard, particularly through the 60s-90s, to fight for change in DC. Imagine if they had taken on the same attitude.

Seriously, people. Try harder. It’s easy to be like “oh big deal” until it’s your kid shot in a botched robbery, or you’re pistol-whipped for your bag.

Do better, expect better.

+1. Such a good point. I suspect a lot of these commenters actually grew up in and probably still live in safe neighborhoods. And they somehow think they are fighting for social justice by acting like crime in other families’ neighborhoods isn’t a big deal.

My suspicion is that they grew up in UMC and mostly white suburbs somewhere else and are here for their “urban experience” before they settle down and move back to where they came from or similar. No skin in the game.

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Anonymous wrote:For years I used to drive to DC to play league tennis at several different locations. Now, I’m honestly too scared to even drive into some of those areas. I cannot imagine living there and raising a family. OP needs to drive out to the suburbs and see the difference in lifestyle. Not perfect, but a completely different world. Your family’s safety should be top priority, IMO.

DCUM is just so disappointing these days. Like seriously we have to wade around in this sort of BS all of the time. So tiring. I wish you all would go off to Fairfax Underground or something.

Seriously. These are Tea Party era R's whinging, pay no heed. They hate Bowser--they've clearly never lived in a city in their lives if they think DC gov't is mismanaged. Try living in Philly or DC or Boston! I've lived in all three--and DC is no worse than the others--actually, better in some respects. Off to the 'burbs with the whingers!

CYA

I don’t care where you lived. It’s not an interesting challenge to me. But I do think you’re a bad person if you’re not bothered by violent crimes and murders in your community.

They don't care because they have options and are mostly insulated from it.

It's not street-cred, it's not some sort of cool metropolitan ennui -- it's classist and selfish.

I'm 10:12 and you put it better than I did.