ACPS- Changing from Hybrid to DL?

[Anonymous]

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Yes - teacher here considering if I should ask my admin if I can take my kids outside for lunch. I feel like they are so overwhelmed now - they will say no right away because too much to organize, but I would really prefer it and will be nicer for the kids too. Annoyed by the window thing, but there's not a window that opens in the classroom I'm in anyway.

You sound very caring. At least at GWMS, if the teachers can get the kids back in time for their next class, they can take them to eat lunch outside. That may be a big if, but it is theoretically an option.

You do sound like a very caring teacher. It makes me sad to know that if you are a teacher at my child's school, you'd be told that it isn't equitable to the kids who are home. A teacher has already said that the kids in hybrid won't be allowed to use the books in the classroom because it isn't equitable to the kids at home.

I hope you have a better admin than we do and that this is successful.

Mediocrity for all!

Mediocrity for all = “equity”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You want teachers to do things that are inequitable? And you're casting shade on the principal who is trying to ensure that everything is equitable? Really?

That's disgusting and completely shameful.

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[Anonymous]

Every time I think the Open people have hit the bottom they surprise me by sinking even lower.

[Anonymous]

You want teachers to do things that are inequitable? And you're casting shade on the principal who is trying to ensure that everything is equitable? Really?

That's disgusting and completely shameful.


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I think it depends. My child has the right to hard copy textbooks under his 504 plan. The school did not provide them to him (due to COVID), and so I purchased them with my own money. But now, I am being told that he cannot use them when he goes back either, due to equity. That may be fine for other kids, but my child has a right to them that other kids don't have because he has a disability. I am livid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You want teachers to do things that are inequitable? And you're casting shade on the principal who is trying to ensure that everything is equitable? Really?

That's disgusting and completely shameful.


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I think it depends. My child has the right to hard copy textbooks under his 504 plan. The school did not provide them to him (due to COVID), and so I purchased them with my own money. But now, I am being told that he cannot use them when he goes back either, due to equity. That may be fine for other kids, but my child has a right to them that other kids don't have because he has a disability. I am livid.

Wouldn't it be equitable for him to have the books? And isn't it legally required by either state or federal law that he have them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You want teachers to do things that are inequitable? And you're casting shade on the principal who is trying to ensure that everything is equitable? Really?

That's disgusting and completely shameful.


+1

I think it depends. My child has the right to hard copy textbooks under his 504 plan. The school did not provide them to him (due to COVID), and so I purchased them with my own money. But now, I am being told that he cannot use them when he goes back either, due to equity. That may be fine for other kids, but my child has a right to them that other kids don't have because he has a disability. I am livid.

I am livid for you. Who leaves behind students with disabilities in the name of equity for all? I am truly sorry and hope your child will get the services and supports to which they are legally entitled. This is horrifying to hear about.

[Anonymous]

You want teachers to do things that are inequitable? And you're casting shade on the principal who is trying to ensure that everything is equitable? Really?

That's disgusting and completely shameful.


+1


I think it depends. My child has the right to hard copy textbooks under his 504 plan. The school did not provide them to him (due to COVID), and so I purchased them with my own money. But now, I am being told that he cannot use them when he goes back either, due to equity. That may be fine for other kids, but my child has a right to them that other kids don't have because he has a disability. I am livid.


I am livid for you. Who leaves behind students with disabilities in the name of equity for all? I am truly sorry and hope your child will get the services and supports to which they are legally entitled. This is horrifying to hear about.

Thank you. I am elevating the issue and hopeful that it will be resolved appropriately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You want teachers to do things that are inequitable? And you're casting shade on the principal who is trying to ensure that everything is equitable? Really?

That's disgusting and completely shameful.


+1


I think it depends. My child has the right to hard copy textbooks under his 504 plan. The school did not provide them to him (due to COVID), and so I purchased them with my own money. But now, I am being told that he cannot use them when he goes back either, due to equity. That may be fine for other kids, but my child has a right to them that other kids don't have because he has a disability. I am livid.


I am livid for you. Who leaves behind students with disabilities in the name of equity for all? I am truly sorry and hope your child will get the services and supports to which they are legally entitled. This is horrifying to hear about.

Thank you. I am elevating the issue and hopeful that it will be resolved appropriately.

None of this makes sense. Dr. Hutchings said hard copy text books can be provided to virtual student upon request (school board member Dr. Rief confirmed that). We were able to get a social studies text book for a virtual student. I would escalate this issue until your child can use a textbook.

[Anonymous]

A 504 plan is completely different than an IEP. A 504 means that nothing was found in a Child Study and the child was not determined to have a learning disability; however, the parents are insisting that something needs to be done so we'll set up a 504 to placate them. I am fine with the school system telling you that your child cannot bring a book to school to use even though it is outlined in a 504. You do have a choice here, you realize that, don't you? Your choice is use the book and stay at home OR don't use the book and go to school. It is up to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A 504 plan is completely different than an IEP. A 504 means that nothing was found in a Child Study and the child was not determined to have a learning disability; however, the parents are insisting that something needs to be done so we'll set up a 504 to placate them. I am fine with the school system telling you that your child cannot bring a book to school to use even though it is outlined in a 504. You do have a choice here, you realize that, don't you? Your choice is use the book and stay at home OR don't use the book and go to school. It is up to you.

This is utterly false.

"STUDENTS PROTECTED UNDER SECTION 504

Section 504 covers qualified students with disabilities who attend schools receiving Federal financial assistance. To be protected under Section 504, a student must be determined to: (1) have a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities; or (2) have a record of such an impairment; or (3) be regarded as having such an impairment. Section 504 requires that school districts provide a free appropriate public education (FAPE) to qualified students in their jurisdictions who have a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities."

https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/504faq.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You want teachers to do things that are inequitable? And you're casting shade on the principal who is trying to ensure that everything is equitable? Really?

That's disgusting and completely shameful.


+1

I think it depends. My child has the right to hard copy textbooks under his 504 plan. The school did not provide them to him (due to COVID), and so I purchased them with my own money. But now, I am being told that he cannot use them when he goes back either, due to equity. That may be fine for other kids, but my child has a right to them that other kids don't have because he has a disability. I am livid.

I am livid for you. Who leaves behind students with disabilities in the name of equity for all? I am truly sorry and hope your child will get the services and supports to which they are legally entitled. This is horrifying to hear about.

I also am upset for you. My friend had something similar happen with regard to her daughter last fall, so this is not the first time I have heard this. The reality is that students with diabilities have indeed been left behind in all this. Based on my own experiences in the system, I'm not shocked.

[Anonymous]

update we are able to go outside for lunch. It was a little cold but should be warmer the rest of the week!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:update we are able to go outside for lunch. It was a little cold but should be warmer the rest of the week!

That's great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 504 plan is completely different than an IEP. A 504 means that nothing was found in a Child Study and the child was not determined to have a learning disability; however, the parents are insisting that something needs to be done so we'll set up a 504 to placate them. I am fine with the school system telling you that your child cannot bring a book to school to use even though it is outlined in a 504. You do have a choice here, you realize that, don't you? Your choice is use the book and stay at home OR don't use the book and go to school. It is up to you.

This is utterly false.

"STUDENTS PROTECTED UNDER SECTION 504

Section 504 covers qualified students with disabilities who attend schools receiving Federal financial assistance. To be protected under Section 504, a student must be determined to: (1) have a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities; or (2) have a record of such an impairment; or (3) be regarded as having such an impairment. Section 504 requires that school districts provide a free appropriate public education (FAPE) to qualified students in their jurisdictions who have a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities."

https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/504faq.html

RIF. None of those are learning disabilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 504 plan is completely different than an IEP. A 504 means that nothing was found in a Child Study and the child was not determined to have a learning disability; however, the parents are insisting that something needs to be done so we'll set up a 504 to placate them. I am fine with the school system telling you that your child cannot bring a book to school to use even though it is outlined in a 504. You do have a choice here, you realize that, don't you? Your choice is use the book and stay at home OR don't use the book and go to school. It is up to you.

This is utterly false.

"STUDENTS PROTECTED UNDER SECTION 504

Section 504 covers qualified students with disabilities who attend schools receiving Federal financial assistance. To be protected under Section 504, a student must be determined to: (1) have a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities; or (2) have a record of such an impairment; or (3) be regarded as having such an impairment. Section 504 requires that school districts provide a free appropriate public education (FAPE) to qualified students in their jurisdictions who have a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities."

https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/504faq.html

RIF. None of those are learning disabilities.

Are you saying that physical or mental impairments do not affect a child's learning needs? The poster said 504s are written to "placate" parents. That's ridiculous.