What is your take on the Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt divorce saga? What happened on the plane?

[Anonymous]

While I think they both deserve each other, is it possible Brad hasn’t really presses for a divorce because she does have something on him? It’s ridiculous it’s gone on this long. I would think at some point me point the court would say enough, final judgement.

[Anonymous]

I think they had fundamentally different views on family lifestyle and child rearing, which they didn’t discuss before having a bunch of kids in a short amount of time. Two spoiled egotistical people in a relationship that became increasingly toxic over time. The divorce reflects the fights they’d been having all along, and neither wants to compromise. He was probably the worse parent, compounded by substance abuse issues, while they were together. But he seems like he’s gotten his ish together and she’s furious he has the power to derail the life she’s always wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they had fundamentally different views on family lifestyle and child rearing, which they didn’t discuss before having a bunch of kids in a short amount of time. Two spoiled egotistical people in a relationship that became increasingly toxic over time. The divorce reflects the fights they’d been having all along, and neither wants to compromise. He was probably the worse parent, compounded by substance abuse issues, while they were together. But he seems like he’s gotten his ish together and she’s furious he has the power to derail the life she’s always wanted.

^^i can understand her feeling this is unfair when it seems she’s always been the “primary” but I also think she’s not considering their best interests in wanting to continue to drag them around the world to suit her desires. They’re settled going to school and presumably have friends now. Let them be, and let them have a healthy relationship with their father since no one really believes he’s unfit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they had fundamentally different views on family lifestyle and child rearing, which they didn’t discuss before having a bunch of kids in a short amount of time. Two spoiled egotistical people in a relationship that became increasingly toxic over time. The divorce reflects the fights they’d been having all along, and neither wants to compromise. He was probably the worse parent, compounded by substance abuse issues, while they were together. But he seems like he’s gotten his ish together and she’s furious he has the power to derail the life she’s always wanted.

They are both two fools.

Brad wanted kids so he made a beeline for the crazy hot chick who was a single mom.
Angelina wanted more fame and what better way than to hook up with the Golden Boy.

It was a trainwreck before it started, while it was happening, and before it ended. Who adopts a child with someone they dated while he was married to another woman. She then immediately gets pregnant after his divorce is finalized. Her fans don't want to accept the poor decisions she made in choosing him as her children's father in the first place. Brad Pitt has been a stoner since college.

[Anonymous]

She has chronic depression (possibly bipolar disorder) and disordered eating.

He has substance abuse issues, and probably also depression. He seems to have worked on himself and gotten help.

She doesn't work on her issues, and instead uses him as a scapegoat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I think they both deserve each other, is it possible Brad hasn’t really presses for a divorce because she does have something on him? It’s ridiculous it’s gone on this long. I would think at some point me point the court would say enough, final judgement.

This is not really accurate. Angelina has dragged this out because she wants sole custody and to move the minor children to the UK where they have no personal or familial ties. They are divorced and have agreed to maintain the French property for their children to inherit. Custody is the sticking point.

The plane incident isn't new and he's already been cleared by the FBI and DCFS. I think this is a tactic to get Brad 'publicly canceled' in this Me Too era but it just doesn't seem to be working and she and her fans are pissed.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if it's possible that moving the kids out of the US might really be in their best interests, given how the US treats celebrity kids. On the other hand, if that was her concern, it seems like the UK with its tabloids might be the one place on earth that is worse so *shrug*?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if it's possible that moving the kids out of the US might really be in their best interests, given how the US treats celebrity kids. On the other hand, if that was her concern, it seems like the UK with its tabloids might be the one place on earth that is worse so *shrug*?

Doubtful that moving them away from their father, their school, and their friends is in their best interests, and California has passed some legislation to protect celebrity kids (am sure it doesn't go far enough but it's something).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they had fundamentally different views on family lifestyle and child rearing, which they didn’t discuss before having a bunch of kids in a short amount of time. Two spoiled egotistical people in a relationship that became increasingly toxic over time. The divorce reflects the fights they’d been having all along, and neither wants to compromise. He was probably the worse parent, compounded by substance abuse issues, while they were together. But he seems like he’s gotten his ish together and she’s furious he has the power to derail the life she’s always wanted.

They are both two fools.

Brad wanted kids so he made a beeline for the crazy hot chick who was a single mom.
Angelina wanted more fame and what better way than to hook up with the Golden Boy.

It was a trainwreck before it started, while it was happening, and before it ended. Who adopts a child with someone they dated while he was married to another woman. She then immediately gets pregnant after his divorce is finalized. Her fans don't want to accept the poor decisions she made in choosing him as her children's father in the first place. Brad Pitt has been a stoner since college.

Completely agree. People are so quick to point out how crazy she is - and SHE IS - but let's talk about how he was attracted to that crazy, rushed headfirst while still married, immediately adopted 2 kids, got her pregnant pretty quick, then adopted another, then had more bio kids. He should have seen some of this coming.

If he's in therapy, he's doing some work on why he ignored the many, many red flags.

[Anonymous]

Here's my take on my own parenting experiences.

Some people are really good at parenting babies and young kids. It's challenging, but it's a fun challenge (especially if you have nannies or cooks/housekeepers to help).

Parenting teens is 100% different. I think have strong willed teenagers, especially boys who are adopted, is difficult. Many teenage boys like to step up to dad at some point. I did not come from an abusive household, nor am I in one now, but both my brothers stepped up to my dad, and my teen boys stepped up to my husband. It's a testosterone, turning into a man thing. Angelina chose her son(s) over Brad. She should have diffused the situation, and regrouped with a clear head. Even if Brad was in the wrong, teens need to know their limit.

With that said, I do not condone abuse (yes, repeating myself). But the fight should have been broken up before there was abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She has chronic depression (possibly bipolar disorder) and disordered eating.

He has substance abuse issues, and probably also depression. He seems to have worked on himself and gotten help.

She doesn't work on her issues, and instead uses him as a scapegoat.

This is my armchair diagnosis as well. I do think a fundamental problem is her never seeming to own her side of the street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's my take on my own parenting experiences.

Some people are really good at parenting babies and young kids. It's challenging, but it's a fun challenge (especially if you have nannies or cooks/housekeepers to help).

Parenting teens is 100% different. I think have strong willed teenagers, especially boys who are adopted, is difficult. Many teenage boys like to step up to dad at some point. I did not come from an abusive household, nor am I in one now, but both my brothers stepped up to my dad, and my teen boys stepped up to my husband. It's a testosterone, turning into a man thing. Angelina chose her son(s) over Brad. She should have diffused the situation, and regrouped with a clear head. Even if Brad was in the wrong, teens need to know their limit.

With that said, I do not condone abuse (yes, repeating myself). But the fight should have been broken up before there was abuse.

This is very accurate based on their own words. Angelina said she wasn’t into babies and Brad has always melted at little girls and loved playing with his young sons. As they became teenagers they swung hard toward their mother, combine that with his substance abuse and now you have a perfect scenario of him having a not so great relationship with his teenage children.

Hopefully they all will come back to him if he maintains his sobriety.

[Anonymous]

Even crummy parents get shared custody and visitation.

I think they had a low moment that was caught on tape, and she’s used it as leverage to retain control. I think she’s evil for damaging the kids’ relationship with their father. She’s using them to punish him. When the kids are older, they’ll realize she’s bananas and abandon her for him. He’s A list and well connected. He’s also well loved by family and friends. She’s a lone wolf weirdo.

[Anonymous]

Is he well loved by family and friends? Or just appreciated for his power? I though he lacked empathy, according to Jen -- or was that the effect of the drugs and alcohol?

Not on Jolie's side here; think she's worse. But not sure he's a big prize, either.

[Anonymous]

Seriously world, stay away from the family. Let them sort their things. You are NOT helping. There are children involved let those people be.