Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

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Anonymous wrote:In a new poll from The Economist and YouGov,

- 62% of Americans say it is inappropriate for the President to threaten withholding foreign aid to a country if they refuse to take an action which personally benefits the President
- Including 38% of Trump voters

That question is pretty open-ended and I'd like to see what Trump voters would think if "personally benefits" is replaced by "politically benefits."

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He's gone. The transcript proves that he made U.S. policy toward Ukraine contingent on an investigation of Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:He's gone. The transcript proves that he made U.S. policy toward Ukraine contingent on an investigation of Biden.

So this is Pence's doing? Great, we get Pence for Pres!

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Election interference and violation of campaign finance law, from the WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/transcript-of-trumps-call-with-ukrainian-president-shows-him-offering-us-assistance-for-biden-investigation/2019/09/25/16aa36ca-df0f-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

"President Trump told his Ukrainian counterpart to work with the U.S. attorney general to investigate the conduct of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and offered to meet with the foreign leader at the White House after he promised to conduct such an inquiry, according to a newly-released transcript of the call.

Those statements and others in a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky were so concerning that the intelligence community inspector general thought them a possible violation of campaign finance law. In late August, intelligence officials referred the matter to the Justice Department as a possible crime, but prosecutors concluded last week that the conduct was not criminal, according to senior Justice Department officials."

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Anonymous wrote:He's gone. The transcript proves that he made U.S. policy toward Ukraine contingent on an investigation of Biden.

So this is Pence's doing? Great, we get Pence for Pres!

Not for long, but actually he's the kind to follow the law... I'm getting nostalgic about people who do that...

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds to me that this is not going to go well for the Democrats.

They are going with the "Ready, fire, aim" strategy. They get the American people all worked up for something that turns out to be nothing.
And, if this is the case, I hope this "whistleblower" is held accountable. And, Pelosi and Schumer when it comes to the 2020 election.

You’re despicable. The criminals in the GOP should be held accountable for what they’ve done. Do you really think a whistleblower is just making this all up? For spite or partisanship? JFC, the projection among conservatives is out of control. Just because you guys spent billions attacking the Clintons and Obama just cause doesn’t mean we’re doing the same thing.

Yeah, I really do - based on what I have heard.

A "whistleblower" who did not have first hand knowledge of what he/she is complaining about AND happens to have political motivations?
Where have we heard this before????

The allegation of lack of firsthand knowledge is spin and anonymously sourced.

More important, however, is that the President and Rudy Guliani have already admitted what they have done. In fact, Trump's story has changed three times in three days. He asked Pelosi to cut a deal. Who cares what the whistleblower has at this point? The culprits have already admitted to the crimes.

We also don’t know what is meant by first hand knowledge. Dan Coats or John Bolton could be the whistle blower and one could argue that neither technically had first hand knowledge because they wouldn’t have been on the call— the people who report to them would have been. It is likely that the whistle blower is further up the chain of command. That is the nature of the role of DNI and NSA.

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Anonymous wrote:He's gone. The transcript proves that he made U.S. policy toward Ukraine contingent on an investigation of Biden.

No, it didn't.

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Anonymous wrote:He's gone. The transcript proves that he made U.S. policy toward Ukraine contingent on an investigation of Biden.

So this is Pence's doing? Great, we get Pence for Pres!

Trump will fight it, which is fine because it will ensure that the evidence of his other crimes and of the criminal actions of the other criminals in his Administration will be exposed.

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According to the NYT, "Intelligence Officials Referred Activity to Justice Dept., Which Declined to Investigate":
Heads at DOJ are going to roll. Barr first.

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

The Democrats have egg on their faces, again.

No quid pro quo.
Trump references the European lack of help.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

The Democrats have egg on their faces, again.

No quid pro quo.
Trump references the European lack of help.

"Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me."

BTW, the Ukrainian President doesn't come out looking good, which is why he publicly asked that the call shouldn't be released.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the NYT, "Intelligence Officials Referred Activity to Justice Dept., Which Declined to Investigate":
Heads at DOJ are going to roll. Barr first.

Talk about "deep state," everything conservatives accuse others of is exactly what they are doing themselves. This situation is completely disturbing.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

The whole call was Trump demanding actions from Ukraine based on his campaign agenda, not the interests of the United States. What a corrupt idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

The Democrats have egg on their faces, again.

No quid pro quo.
Trump references the European lack of help.

"Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me."

BTW, the Ukrainian President doesn't come out looking good, which is why he publicly asked that the call shouldn't be released.

The quote above is Trump speaking, of course.