Warren now the most likely nominee according to some betting markets

[Anonymous]

Well, of course. She's the only one remotely knowledgeable on the issues, and with the intelligence to find workable solutions.

My concern is that the people are too ignorant to recognize that, sadly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like Warren- I think she’s incredibly smart and capable. Her proposals reflect the ideas she has supported for years. She is who she is, and I respect that.

However, someone this smart should be reading the tea leaves better. For example, I feel like pushing for universal health care right now is lose-lose- the votes aren't there, and the prospect of losing their private insurance will scare a high percentage of voters. The public option would be a more realistic goal that could serve as a stepping stone to universal health care.

And sure she has plans to pay for everything NOW, but what about down the road? How will forgiving everyone’s student debt further drive college costs up?

I want her to answer some of these questions. If she’s the nominee, I’ll vote for her. But I’m not the type of voter that needs convincing.

I say without joking that she probably has a plan for long term effects. She’s crafted these plans with input from experts in the relevant fields.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Warren- I think she’s incredibly smart and capable. Her proposals reflect the ideas she has supported for years. She is who she is, and I respect that.

However, someone this smart should be reading the tea leaves better. For example, I feel like pushing for universal health care right now is lose-lose- the votes aren't there, and the prospect of losing their private insurance will scare a high percentage of voters. The public option would be a more realistic goal that could serve as a stepping stone to universal health care.

And sure she has plans to pay for everything NOW, but what about down the road? How will forgiving everyone’s student debt further drive college costs up?

I want her to answer some of these questions. If she’s the nominee, I’ll vote for her. But I’m not the type of voter that needs convincing.

I say without joking that she probably has a plan for long term effects. She’s crafted these plans with input from experts in the relevant fields.

DP. Has she shared them? And what’s her plan for getting republican votes?

The problem with some of these liberal candidates is they’re from liberal states where they’ve never had to make compromises to get elected. But they’re not running for MA, VT, CA anymore. Well I guess in the primary they sort of are, but to think all of these swing midwestern states are going to buy in in the general election is a stretch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Warren- I think she’s incredibly smart and capable. Her proposals reflect the ideas she has supported for years. She is who she is, and I respect that.

However, someone this smart should be reading the tea leaves better. For example, I feel like pushing for universal health care right now is lose-lose- the votes aren't there, and the prospect of losing their private insurance will scare a high percentage of voters. The public option would be a more realistic goal that could serve as a stepping stone to universal health care.

And sure she has plans to pay for everything NOW, but what about down the road? How will forgiving everyone’s student debt further drive college costs up?

I want her to answer some of these questions. If she’s the nominee, I’ll vote for her. But I’m not the type of voter that needs convincing.

I say without joking that she probably has a plan for long term effects. She’s crafted these plans with input from experts in the relevant fields.

DP. Has she shared them? And what’s her plan for getting republican votes?

The problem with some of these liberal candidates is they’re from liberal states where they’ve never had to make compromises to get elected. But they’re not running for MA, VT, CA anymore. Well I guess in the primary they sort of are, but to think all of these swing midwestern states are going to buy in in the general election is a stretch.

Check out her issues page. I’m not reading all of them - they’re long, detailed and available on a variety of subjects and I don’t know which one is the most important issue to you.

I mean it’s funny - people excoriate her for having been a Republicans and excoriate her for being too pure of a liberal. She’s thoughtful and connects with people, she’s intelligent and educated, and she seems like she’ll fire up the Democrats. She’s not some shrieking freak liberal who’s promising the moon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Warren- I think she’s incredibly smart and capable. Her proposals reflect the ideas she has supported for years. She is who she is, and I respect that.

However, someone this smart should be reading the tea leaves better. For example, I feel like pushing for universal health care right now is lose-lose- the votes aren't there, and the prospect of losing their private insurance will scare a high percentage of voters. The public option would be a more realistic goal that could serve as a stepping stone to universal health care.

And sure she has plans to pay for everything NOW, but what about down the road? How will forgiving everyone’s student debt further drive college costs up?

I want her to answer some of these questions. If she’s the nominee, I’ll vote for her. But I’m not the type of voter that needs convincing.

I say without joking that she probably has a plan for long term effects. She’s crafted these plans with input from experts in the relevant fields.

DP. Has she shared them? And what’s her plan for getting republican votes?

The problem with some of these liberal candidates is they’re from liberal states where they’ve never had to make compromises to get elected. But they’re not running for MA, VT, CA anymore. Well I guess in the primary they sort of are, but to think all of these swing midwestern states are going to buy in in the general election is a stretch.

Check out her issues page. I’m not reading all of them - they’re long, detailed and available on a variety of subjects and I don’t know which one is the most important issue to you.

I mean it’s funny - people excoriate her for having been a Republicans and excoriate her for being too pure of a liberal. She’s thoughtful and connects with people, she’s intelligent and educated, and she seems like she’ll fire up the Democrats. She’s not some shrieking freak liberal who’s promising the moon.

I agree. It’s sad to see people get distracted by red herrings.

Or perhaps they just have a bias against women...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Warren- I think she’s incredibly smart and capable. Her proposals reflect the ideas she has supported for years. She is who she is, and I respect that.

However, someone this smart should be reading the tea leaves better. For example, I feel like pushing for universal health care right now is lose-lose- the votes aren't there, and the prospect of losing their private insurance will scare a high percentage of voters. The public option would be a more realistic goal that could serve as a stepping stone to universal health care.

And sure she has plans to pay for everything NOW, but what about down the road? How will forgiving everyone’s student debt further drive college costs up?

I want her to answer some of these questions. If she’s the nominee, I’ll vote for her. But I’m not the type of voter that needs convincing.

I say without joking that she probably has a plan for long term effects. She’s crafted these plans with input from experts in the relevant fields.

DP. Has she shared them? And what’s her plan for getting republican votes?

The problem with some of these liberal candidates is they’re from liberal states where they’ve never had to make compromises to get elected. But they’re not running for MA, VT, CA anymore. Well I guess in the primary they sort of are, but to think all of these swing midwestern states are going to buy in in the general election is a stretch.

Check out her issues page. I’m not reading all of them - they’re long, detailed and available on a variety of subjects and I don’t know which one is the most important issue to you.

I mean it’s funny - people excoriate her for having been a Republicans and excoriate her for being too pure of a liberal. She’s thoughtful and connects with people, she’s intelligent and educated, and she seems like she’ll fire up the Democrats. She’s not some shrieking freak liberal who’s promising the moon.

I agree. It’s sad to see people get distracted by red herrings.

Or perhaps they just have a bias against women...

Huh. So being concerned about losing your current health plan is a “red herring”? You folks need to check yourself. So clueless and out of touch, and that’s why you’ll lose again. Suckers!

[Anonymous]

The problem with liberal elites I'm talknig Vox, Center for American Progress is that you think you are actually morally and intellectually superior to people on the right and you also think all of us are racist or worse

There are moral and intellectual issues/problems with all the solutions being proposed but yall are too blind to admit/acknowledge it

I know we have issues on the right but the echo chamber on the left is astounding from an outsider looking in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Warren- I think she’s incredibly smart and capable. Her proposals reflect the ideas she has supported for years. She is who she is, and I respect that.

However, someone this smart should be reading the tea leaves better. For example, I feel like pushing for universal health care right now is lose-lose- the votes aren't there, and the prospect of losing their private insurance will scare a high percentage of voters. The public option would be a more realistic goal that could serve as a stepping stone to universal health care.

And sure she has plans to pay for everything NOW, but what about down the road? How will forgiving everyone’s student debt further drive college costs up?

I want her to answer some of these questions. If she’s the nominee, I’ll vote for her. But I’m not the type of voter that needs convincing.

I say without joking that she probably has a plan for long term effects. She’s crafted these plans with input from experts in the relevant fields.

DP. Has she shared them? And what’s her plan for getting republican votes?

The problem with some of these liberal candidates is they’re from liberal states where they’ve never had to make compromises to get elected. But they’re not running for MA, VT, CA anymore. Well I guess in the primary they sort of are, but to think all of these swing midwestern states are going to buy in in the general election is a stretch.

Check out her issues page. I’m not reading all of them - they’re long, detailed and available on a variety of subjects and I don’t know which one is the most important issue to you.

I mean it’s funny - people excoriate her for having been a Republicans and excoriate her for being too pure of a liberal. She’s thoughtful and connects with people, she’s intelligent and educated, and she seems like she’ll fire up the Democrats. She’s not some shrieking freak liberal who’s promising the moon.

I agree. It’s sad to see people get distracted by red herrings.

Or perhaps they just have a bias against women...

Huh. So being concerned about losing your current health plan is a “red herring”? You folks need to check yourself. So clueless and out of touch, and that’s why you’ll lose again. Suckers!

Health insurance is not health care. It’s a business to take health care dollars away from actual health care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem with liberal elites I'm talknig Vox, Center for American Progress is that you think you are actually morally and intellectually superior to people on the right we are. and you also think all of us are racist or worse you either are or you’ve proven that supporting racism doesn’t bother you.

There are moral and intellectual issues/problems with all the solutions being proposed but yall are too blind to admit/acknowledge it Like what, for instance? What are the moral/intellectual issues with addressing global warming? Trying to get better health care/control prices so people don’t have to avoid medical treatment or risk losing al of their assets?

I know we have issues on the right This is an understatement. but the echo chamber on the left is astounding from an outsider looking in. You ought to see how insane and closed the RW echo chamber looks to the rest of the world. Truly astonishing - and the President* seems to take policy notes from your echo chamber. I mean, that’s a closed loop.

Im really curious what you find morally or intellectually wrong with addressing problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with liberal elites I'm talknig Vox, Center for American Progress is that you think you are actually morally and intellectually superior to people on the right we are. and you also think all of us are racist or worse you either are or you’ve proven that supporting racism doesn’t bother you.

There are moral and intellectual issues/problems with all the solutions being proposed but yall are too blind to admit/acknowledge it Like what, for instance? What are the moral/intellectual issues with addressing global warming? Trying to get better health care/control prices so people don’t have to avoid medical treatment or risk losing al of their assets?

I know we have issues on the right This is an understatement. but the echo chamber on the left is astounding from an outsider looking in. You ought to see how insane and closed the RW echo chamber looks to the rest of the world. Truly astonishing - and the President* seems to take policy notes from your echo chamber. I mean, that’s a closed loop.

Im really curious what you find morally or intellectually wrong with addressing problems.

lol you expect me to engage now

Thanks for proving my original point

At a high level 2 major issues. One not all of these are problems/issues that need to be addressed and 2 more importantly in my view there are multiple ways to address issues, in some cases the D/Warren approach to the issue would actually make the underlying issue worse.

In all seriousness I hope you can see those 2 points

[Anonymous]

PP you’re going to need to elaborate if you want to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous]

Now a 7 cent spread between Warren (32) and Biden (25)

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/3633/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-presidential-nomination

[Anonymous]

Warren is the ultimate populist.

She is promising free everything for everyone, supposedly to be paid by a magical tax on just a few thousand families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Warren is the ultimate populist.

She is promising free everything for everyone, supposedly to be paid by a magical tax on just a few thousand families.

Please keep proving that repo rank and file have no frigging clue how much money the 1% has. It’s so sad.

[Anonymous]

Fun anecdote from the Minnesota State Fair today: the DFL is conducting a “soybean poll” with all however many candidates there are, plus a generic “Democrat” (which, in a DFL booth.... duh). You can request a soybean and drop it into a tall glass cylinder. Elizabeth Warren is far and away the winner in this soybean poll.