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Anonymous wrote:14:31 -- Are you my long-lost sister?

Last time I visited Mom, her fridge contained the following:

- 1 small container of blueberries (to top her morning bowl of Special K)

- 10 "Balanced Bites" (little plastic containers with a few cubes of cheese, a couple of almonds and some dark chocolate) -- these are lunch and dinner for the next 5 days

- 1 large box of wine

I offered to go to the grocery store and she said "Oh I don't need anything. I just went shopping."

LOL, no we don't do balanced bites, or Special K. We do Activia Yogurt on the non banana days.

Also, only one box of wine? Are you sure there isn't a cupboard somewhere?

Maybe they're twins separated at birth?

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Anonymous wrote:I was newly pregnant one year during Thanksgiving. We were staying with MIL, but she was not hosting the family feast; nearby SIL was. MIL had no food, no snacks in her house. She normally eats like a bird anyway. We brought a huge pot of soup, so that's all we ate for breakfast and lunch before the evening family gathering. I've never known hunger like that before or since, being in first tri. H and SFIL took the car for most of the day and I was shut up in the house with MIL and no food. MIL eats very little, so she wouldn't understand that a pregnant woman needs a lot more than she does.

Please have mercy on your guests, people you presume to like since you're hosting, and recognize that what fills you does not provide enough nourishment for them.

I'm sorry your MIL is a horrible host...but, what? Being pregnant rendered you incapable of ordering Pizza Hut or taking an Uber to the grocery store or CVS?

People, grown-ass adults are responsible for feeding themselves. "Brad, before you and Jane take the car and leave me here, you need to go to the grocery store and get me some food. This is ridiculous."

It's not that easy. When you're out of your element, you don't have the foresight to predict how long DH and FSIL will be gone with the car, how hungry you'll actually get, when the next meal might come. I've been in the exact situation, and I've waited awkwardly (so as not to offend anyone) thinking "well maybe they'll be home soon" or "oh looks like we'll be eating shortly". By the time you realize those things are gonna happen, you're starved!! After that first trip/experience, you gotta wisen up and make your own meal plans. I will either go out and pick up food or I'll call DH to bring food home.

Domino's delivers.

I'm the poster with the mom and the brother. I am laughing my head off imagining my mother's reaction if he ordered a Domino's pizza and brought it into her apartment. If I bring a bottle of water into her house, I get an entire conversation about how I don't really need to drink that much, and how it was "messing up" her otherwise empty counters.. The other day, I brought some berries as a contribution to dinner, and she asked me many times to make sure that I was taking the left overs with me, because she didn't want them filling up her fridge (note: a full fridge means 2 or 3 things on the same shelf). I don't have the issue of being starving, because I don't live there, so I just limit myself to short visits, but it's a

The "grab a piece of fruit and go outside" thing wouldn't work, because there is no extra food that is not wine or diet coke. She goes to the grocery store and buys exactly 21 meals worth of food. She might have a little extra of a staple like some uncooked rice, or of something that comes in a size that doesn't exactly fit, but not of any of the kind of things you'd grab for a snack without messing up her kitchen. For example, she has a banana for (not with) breakfast every other morning, so she buys either 3 or 4 bananas depending on whether she ate one that morning. You can't possibly eat one of them, because then she'd have no breakfast!!!! (Note: she's very active goes all over the place. She lives within walking distance of several stores that sell bananas. So, there are some possible solutions to this issue.)

It's not that we don't agree that your mom is crazy. She sounds like a nutbag. I'm sure that's hard.

But guess whose decision it is to keep coming back for more? YOURS. YOU are responsible for you. If you choose to accept her "hospitality" and visit her in her home, and play by her rules, that is on YOU. YOU need to own that, and stop complaining about her.

She's in charge of her household, crazy though she may be. If you don't like the way she runs her house, DON'T VISIT. Point blank period. Stay in a hotel and meet her for meals and outings. And if she can't accept that, then why on Earth would you continue contact with such a toxic, controlling, crazy person.

Make your choices, own your choices, live your choices.

So, as I've said over and over again, I don't visit long enough for it to be a problem. I just want to paint a picture so that people who think that this is just normal healthy eating and not getting fat can see how disordered it can be.

But she's also my mother, and I love her. People who have mental illness, and I'm sure this is what that is, are still family members who people love. My brother, who comes down and actually stays and puts up with the craziness or finds ways around it, loves her. He wants to spend a few days to make sure she's OK, and do what sons do.

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Anonymous wrote:MiL already informed us never to have snacks in the house, FIL will hoover then all up in one afternoon. Chips, nuts, dips, cookies, cakes, pretzels - gone.

Same at her house, no snacks, only apples or oranges in order to keep FIL’s weight down. And crumbs. Constant crumbs from bags or bread or desserts on every counter and table. We come home from work and have to wipe down counters and vacuum the main floor each and every day they stay. They literally just sit in the house, eat, take a walk, and read all day.

I keep my snacks in a small train case. Shut and put away in a closet. MIL could stuff it. I’ll eat where I want.

Why the need for snacks? It boggles my mind that you need to have something to eat constantly. And you wonder why you keep gaining weight

Because there is not enough food served. Because there is no lunch at all. Breakfast and dinner only. Capish?

A train case full of snack foods? If I found something like that stashed in one of my guest bedrooms, I would toss it into the dumpster immediately. No questions asked. Do you think that your host wants to find crumbs and greasy stains all over the guest bedroom once you leave?

It is monstrously rude to a) go through your guests’ belongings and b) throw out anything you find there. If you did that to me, I would leave and not come back, but not before smearing jam and mayonnaise all over your lovely closed kitchen. Suck it, you joyless harridan.

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Anonymous wrote:is eating fruit outside some kind of regional thing? I have never heard of this practice of taking a piece of fruit from the kitchen and going outside to eat it.

It’s not a regional thing. It’s a healthy thing. Most normal and healthy people have a piece of fruit as a snack in between meals. They don’t need fatty junk food like pizzas and bigmacs in between nutritious homemade meals. People on this thread should try it.

I like how the world is fruit vs. Big Macs to you. Like there's no middle ground?

My go-to snacks (and I don't snack every day) are fruit and a small piece of cheese (GASP!) or hummus with carrots or pita chips (OMG!!!!!)

I'm sure you would survive if all you had was a banana or an apple as a snack. If you want to clean up pita chip crumbs and wash off plates and utensils after your little snack in your own home, feel free to do so. But do not assume that your hosts want to deal with crumbs and dirty dishes in their kitchens.

Grab a piece of fruit, go outside and eat it.

WHY DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT OUTSIDE? There are no crumbs from apples. Bananas aren't shooting juice across your freshly mopped floor. Unless you are offering up pomegranates or grapefruits, I fail to see any mess that a grown, human person could make with a piece of fruit.

There are a few reasons. First, fruit, once it is bitten into, is sticky and I prefer that it not be laid down somewhere "for just a sec" inside the house. Second, not all people are neat eaters and some can and do make messes when they eat anything. Third, I prefer that my guests dispose of their cores and peels properly - all but citrus peels go in the compost bin, citrus peels into the dumpster. I can't stand the way banana peels in particular smell and I do not want them in my kitchen trashcan attracting ants.

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Anonymous wrote:is eating fruit outside some kind of regional thing? I have never heard of this practice of taking a piece of fruit from the kitchen and going outside to eat it.

It’s not a regional thing. It’s a healthy thing. Most normal and healthy people have a piece of fruit as a snack in between meals. They don’t need fatty junk food like pizzas and bigmacs in between nutritious homemade meals. People on this thread should try it.

I like how the world is fruit vs. Big Macs to you. Like there's no middle ground?

My go-to snacks (and I don't snack every day) are fruit and a small piece of cheese (GASP!) or hummus with carrots or pita chips (OMG!!!!!)

I'm sure you would survive if all you had was a banana or an apple as a snack. If you want to clean up pita chip crumbs and wash off plates and utensils after your little snack in your own home, feel free to do so. But do not assume that your hosts want to deal with crumbs and dirty dishes in their kitchens.

Grab a piece of fruit, go outside and eat it.

WHY DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT OUTSIDE? There are no crumbs from apples. Bananas aren't shooting juice across your freshly mopped floor. Unless you are offering up pomegranates or grapefruits, I fail to see any mess that a grown, human person could make with a piece of fruit.

There are a few reasons. First, fruit, once it is bitten into, is sticky and I prefer that it not be laid down somewhere "for just a sec" inside the house. Second, not all people are neat eaters and some can and do make messes when they eat anything. Third, I prefer that my guests dispose of their cores and peels properly - all but citrus peels go in the compost bin, citrus peels into the dumpster. I can't stand the way banana peels in particular smell and I do not want them in my kitchen trashcan attracting ants.

You would get ants from one banana peel in a closed trash can? What, is there a nest of them in the back room or something?

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I think Burger King harpy is my MIL. Do everyone a favor and follow through on your threat to stay past Labor Day in Nauck.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 3 meals and a snack or two in between is sufficient. Another family came over and they didn't eat together or have a meal, the food was on the table for 5 hours and they would constantly come and graze, one by one repeatedly. It drove me nuts.

Two snacks between meals? And let me guess - the snacks are whoppers with fries and an ice cream cone and then separately an extra large burrito?
This kind of constant gluttonous eating is ridiculous - your children will follow your unhealthy eating habits. Having a nutritious breakfast and then a hearty and healthy meal a little while later is the best thing for your kids

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Anonymous wrote:I think 3 meals and a snack or two in between is sufficient. Another family came over and they didn't eat together or have a meal, the food was on the table for 5 hours and they would constantly come and graze, one by one repeatedly. It drove me nuts.

Two snacks between meals? And let me guess - the snacks are whoppers with fries and an ice cream cone and then separately an extra large burrito?
This kind of constant gluttonous eating is ridiculous - your children will follow your unhealthy eating habits. Having a nutritious breakfast and then a hearty and healthy meal a little while later is the best thing for your kids

It's pretty common for young kids to have a snack between breakfast and lunch, and another one between lunch and dinner. Every preschool in this nation follows this calendar.

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Anonymous wrote:is eating fruit outside some kind of regional thing? I have never heard of this practice of taking a piece of fruit from the kitchen and going outside to eat it.

It’s not a regional thing. It’s a healthy thing. Most normal and healthy people have a piece of fruit as a snack in between meals. They don’t need fatty junk food like pizzas and bigmacs in between nutritious homemade meals. People on this thread should try it.

I like how the world is fruit vs. Big Macs to you. Like there's no middle ground?

My go-to snacks (and I don't snack every day) are fruit and a small piece of cheese (GASP!) or hummus with carrots or pita chips (OMG!!!!!)

I'm sure you would survive if all you had was a banana or an apple as a snack. If you want to clean up pita chip crumbs and wash off plates and utensils after your little snack in your own home, feel free to do so. But do not assume that your hosts want to deal with crumbs and dirty dishes in their kitchens.

Grab a piece of fruit, go outside and eat it.

WHY DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT OUTSIDE? There are no crumbs from apples. Bananas aren't shooting juice across your freshly mopped floor. Unless you are offering up pomegranates or grapefruits, I fail to see any mess that a grown, human person could make with a piece of fruit.

There are a few reasons. First, fruit, once it is bitten into, is sticky and I prefer that it not be laid down somewhere "for just a sec" inside the house. Second, not all people are neat eaters and some can and do make messes when they eat anything. Third, I prefer that my guests dispose of their cores and peels properly - all but citrus peels go in the compost bin, citrus peels into the dumpster. I can't stand the way banana peels in particular smell and I do not want them in my kitchen trashcan attracting ants.

I think you're officially nuts. What are your guests supposed to do when it's rainy or cold? Do you make them bundle up to go outside to eat a damn apple?

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Anonymous wrote:I think 3 meals and a snack or two in between is sufficient. Another family came over and they didn't eat together or have a meal, the food was on the table for 5 hours and they would constantly come and graze, one by one repeatedly. It drove me nuts.

Two snacks between meals? And let me guess - the snacks are whoppers with fries and an ice cream cone and then separately an extra large burrito?
This kind of constant gluttonous eating is ridiculous - your children will follow your unhealthy eating habits. Having a nutritious breakfast and then a hearty and healthy meal a little while later is the best thing for your kids

It's pretty common for young kids to have a snack between breakfast and lunch, and another one between lunch and dinner. Every preschool in this nation follows this calendar.

Yes and it’s pretty common for kids to develop obesity with this type of eating habits

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Anonymous wrote:I think 3 meals and a snack or two in between is sufficient. Another family came over and they didn't eat together or have a meal, the food was on the table for 5 hours and they would constantly come and graze, one by one repeatedly. It drove me nuts.

Two snacks between meals? And let me guess - the snacks are whoppers with fries and an ice cream cone and then separately an extra large burrito?
This kind of constant gluttonous eating is ridiculous - your children will follow your unhealthy eating habits. Having a nutritious breakfast and then a hearty and healthy meal a little while later is the best thing for your kids

It's pretty common for young kids to have a snack between breakfast and lunch, and another one between lunch and dinner. Every preschool in this nation follows this calendar.

Yes and it’s pretty common for kids to develop obesity with this type of eating habits

You do you. I don't know a 4-year old who can go from lunch at noon to dinner at six without needing food in between. Maybe your children were little bionic wonders, who knows.

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Burger King lady — tell us more about you. I want a more complete understanding of you and your life. What is or was your line of work? Are or were you married? How do you have your life so ordered and together that a banana peel in your trash is an issue?

I don’t really want to follow your hosting principles, but I do have some admiration for how you know what you want and aren’t afraid to demand it.

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Anonymous wrote:is eating fruit outside some kind of regional thing? I have never heard of this practice of taking a piece of fruit from the kitchen and going outside to eat it.

It’s not a regional thing. It’s a healthy thing. Most normal and healthy people have a piece of fruit as a snack in between meals. They don’t need fatty junk food like pizzas and bigmacs in between nutritious homemade meals. People on this thread should try it.

I like how the world is fruit vs. Big Macs to you. Like there's no middle ground?

My go-to snacks (and I don't snack every day) are fruit and a small piece of cheese (GASP!) or hummus with carrots or pita chips (OMG!!!!!)

I'm sure you would survive if all you had was a banana or an apple as a snack. If you want to clean up pita chip crumbs and wash off plates and utensils after your little snack in your own home, feel free to do so. But do not assume that your hosts want to deal with crumbs and dirty dishes in their kitchens.

Grab a piece of fruit, go outside and eat it.

Do you have worms in your compost bin? If not, no reason not to put citrus peels in (and I actually doubt an orange peel here or there would upset the ph that much). Anyway, too much trouble I guess to put out some thick paper towels and wet wipes, huh? I still wonder if they are allowed to drink water in the house. And what happens in winter? How is that lovely garden then?

WHY DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT OUTSIDE? There are no crumbs from apples. Bananas aren't shooting juice across your freshly mopped floor. Unless you are offering up pomegranates or grapefruits, I fail to see any mess that a grown, human person could make with a piece of fruit.

There are a few reasons. First, fruit, once it is bitten into, is sticky and I prefer that it not be laid down somewhere "for just a sec" inside the house. Second, not all people are neat eaters and some can and do make messes when they eat anything. Third, I prefer that my guests dispose of their cores and peels properly - all but citrus peels go in the compost bin, citrus peels into the dumpster. I can't stand the way banana peels in particular smell and I do not want them in my kitchen trashcan attracting ants.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 3 meals and a snack or two in between is sufficient. Another family came over and they didn't eat together or have a meal, the food was on the table for 5 hours and they would constantly come and graze, one by one repeatedly. It drove me nuts.

Two snacks between meals? And let me guess - the snacks are whoppers with fries and an ice cream cone and then separately an extra large burrito?
This kind of constant gluttonous eating is ridiculous - your children will follow your unhealthy eating habits. Having a nutritious breakfast and then a hearty and healthy meal a little while later is the best thing for your kids

It's pretty common for young kids to have a snack between breakfast and lunch, and another one between lunch and dinner. Every preschool in this nation follows this calendar.

Yes and it’s pretty common for kids to develop obesity with this type of eating habits

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If you look at nutritional recommendations for small children, 3 meals plus 3 snacks is pretty much par for the recommendations. I'm an empty nester but I haven't forgotten, and I occasionally babysit very young children for millennial friends. Depending on the kid, a meal is a tiny amount of food. And don't say it's because of the snacking, because that applies to breakfast. And btw none of the kids I have in mind have any weight problem whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is eating fruit outside some kind of regional thing? I have never heard of this practice of taking a piece of fruit from the kitchen and going outside to eat it.

It’s not a regional thing. It’s a healthy thing. Most normal and healthy people have a piece of fruit as a snack in between meals. They don’t need fatty junk food like pizzas and bigmacs in between nutritious homemade meals. People on this thread should try it.

I like how the world is fruit vs. Big Macs to you. Like there's no middle ground?

My go-to snacks (and I don't snack every day) are fruit and a small piece of cheese (GASP!) or hummus with carrots or pita chips (OMG!!!!!)

I'm sure you would survive if all you had was a banana or an apple as a snack. If you want to clean up pita chip crumbs and wash off plates and utensils after your little snack in your own home, feel free to do so. But do not assume that your hosts want to deal with crumbs and dirty dishes in their kitchens.

Grab a piece of fruit, go outside and eat it.

WHY DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT OUTSIDE? There are no crumbs from apples. Bananas aren't shooting juice across your freshly mopped floor. Unless you are offering up pomegranates or grapefruits, I fail to see any mess that a grown, human person could make with a piece of fruit.

Why are you arguing with a troll?!