BOE Memer is proposing to study school boundary in MCPS

Anonymous
edit - Teachers SHOULD be provided

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Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


A logistical nightmare to increase an area's effective school capacity by rezoning some students in an over-capacity school to an adjoining, under-capacity school? How so? And if so, how come DCUM has been yelling for MCPS to do just that for years?


Over-capacity is the PC way of saying desegregation.

funny thing about this situation . . .

the "understanding" that minorities will benefit by being sent to a school that's either majority white or high SES - That's the blanketed message no one wants to state out loud.

The issue is not resolved through busing. This is a simplistic approach that's part of the "blame game." Kids should not be made ashamed of their home school, yet this is the message we're sending by examining this approach. Instead, teachers be provided the autonomy (and respect!) to do what's best for their students.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Over-capacity is the PC way of saying desegregation.

funny thing about this situation . . .

the "understanding" that minorities will benefit by being sent to a school that's either majority white or high SES - That's the blanketed message no one wants to state out loud.

The issue is not resolved through busing. This is a simplistic approach that's part of the "blame game." Kids should not be made ashamed of their home school, yet this is the message we're sending by examining this approach. Instead, teachers be provided the autonomy (and respect!) to do what's best for their students.



Uh huh. Tell that to the parents at Ashburton ES and Rachel Carson ES.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope this BOE member is going to attend the upcoming Rockville City Council meeting

Much of the school overcrowding has been a direct result of overdevelopment in the County.

Too many housing units are being built, without the appropriate schools being built.

And now developers are pushing for even more development at Twinbrook and RTC. This will directly impact Richard Montgomery HS.

I hope she makes her voice heard with the City Council.


This BoE member is a student at Richard Montgomery HS.


I saw that!

I would imagine she is concerned about the overdevelopment and the fact that they want to add even MORE students to RM, which is already over crowded.

She would be allowed to share her experience at the Rockville Council meeting as a student. I believe minors can share their comments?


You think it's "overdevelopment". Other people don't. She might, she might not. She can make up her own mind and testify as she sees fit.


Yes, absolutely. And I hope she does.

Most students at RM recognize how having an overcrowded school is detrimental. I would think she is not much different.


OMG, people. Do you ever take the time to read new info before pontificating? She spoke up against segregation, in favor of more diversity at RM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Over-capacity is the PC way of saying desegregation.

funny thing about this situation . . .

the "understanding" that minorities will benefit by being sent to a school that's either majority white or high SES - That's the blanketed message no one wants to state out loud.

The issue is not resolved through busing. This is a simplistic approach that's part of the "blame game." Kids should not be made ashamed of their home school, yet this is the message we're sending by examining this approach. Instead, teachers be provided the autonomy (and respect!) to do what's best for their students.



Uh huh. Tell that to the parents at Ashburton ES and Rachel Carson ES.


And if you look at the school's stats, there are few students labeled as FARMs at the two ES. This means that students will most likely be zoned for other elementary schools with some space.

QO and WJ are the high schools into which these schools feed. WJ, as we know, is fairly close to the DCC, as the boundary wars have already begun. Remember that Woodward is in the picture.

QO is surrounded by Watkins Mill, Seneca Valley, Gaithersburg and Northwest HS.

What's described as overpopulation is just a code word for busing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Over-capacity is the PC way of saying desegregation.

funny thing about this situation . . .

the "understanding" that minorities will benefit by being sent to a school that's either majority white or high SES - That's the blanketed message no one wants to state out loud.

The issue is not resolved through busing. This is a simplistic approach that's part of the "blame game." Kids should not be made ashamed of their home school, yet this is the message we're sending by examining this approach. Instead, teachers be provided the autonomy (and respect!) to do what's best for their students.



Uh huh. Tell that to the parents at Ashburton ES and Rachel Carson ES.


And if you look at the school's stats, there are few students labeled as FARMs at the two ES. This means that students will most likely be zoned for other elementary schools with some space.

QO and WJ are the high schools into which these schools feed. WJ, as we know, is fairly close to the DCC, as the boundary wars have already begun. Remember that Woodward is in the picture.

QO is surrounded by Watkins Mill, Seneca Valley, Gaithersburg and Northwest HS.

What's described as overpopulation is just a code word for busing.


I feel like I'm arguing with somebody who is insisting that 2 plus 2 is actually 3.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


This is not really true. People like to say this because they feel it gives them leverage, but in reality it would better serve the public good to be rid of these leeches.


Whoever you are, you have made multiple posts in this same nasty vein. I get it, you're poor and angry. The rich aren't the leeches, they pay the majority of the taxes we all benefit from.

I'm not rich but upper middle I bring resources to my kids school that is a brood mix of SES. I make the class parties happen, I tutor kids who need extra help in the halls and I use my connections to bring money from local businesses to our school for all the kids. I have kids of all SES and race at my house to play every week.

You betcha your @$$, the public school would miss parents like me. And I am considering both private and moving because I am worn out. MCPS has really gone down hill, the curriculum, the overcrowding, the focus on mediocrity. I am watching any rezoning with a side eye, knowing it is the final straw.

I'm not the only one on my peer group who feels this way. Many have already moved or left for private and their presence is missed as the load fall on fewer and fewer parents who have the time, desire or resources to fill the void they leave behind. I'm burned out and comments like yours make me excited for my kid's interview next week. Let all the involved parents with resources, time and heart leave and you"ll find out who.the leeches are. Hint: it an't us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


This is not really true. People like to say this because they feel it gives them leverage, but in reality it would better serve the public good to be rid of these leeches.


Whoever you are, you have made multiple posts in this same nasty vein. I get it, you're poor and angry. The rich aren't the leeches, they pay the majority of the taxes we all benefit from.

I'm not rich but upper middle I bring resources to my kids school that is a brood mix of SES. I make the class parties happen, I tutor kids who need extra help in the halls and I use my connections to bring money from local businesses to our school for all the kids. I have kids of all SES and race at my house to play every week.

You betcha your @$$, the public school would miss parents like me. And I am considering both private and moving because I am worn out. MCPS has really gone down hill, the curriculum, the overcrowding, the focus on mediocrity. I am watching any rezoning with a side eye, knowing it is the final straw.

I'm not the only one on my peer group who feels this way. Many have already moved or left for private and their presence is missed as the load fall on fewer and fewer parents who have the time, desire or resources to fill the void they leave behind. I'm burned out and comments like yours make me excited for my kid's interview next week. Let all the involved parents with resources, time and heart leave and you"ll find out who.the leeches are. Hint: it an't us.


TLDR it's high time we end segregation and chase these privileged leeches from our county!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


A logistical nightmare to increase an area's effective school capacity by rezoning some students in an over-capacity school to an adjoining, under-capacity school? How so? And if so, how come DCUM has been yelling for MCPS to do just that for years?


Over-capacity is the PC way of saying desegregation.

funny thing about this situation . . .

the "understanding" that minorities will benefit by being sent to a school that's either majority white or high SES - That's the blanketed message no one wants to state out loud.

The issue is not resolved through busing. This is a simplistic approach that's part of the "blame game." Kids should not be made ashamed of their home school, yet this is the message we're sending by examining this approach. Instead, teachers be provided the autonomy (and respect!) to do what's best for their students.



Yes!!!! All. Day. Long. It's degrading to minorities to essentially say "only white rich schools are good enough, your school isn't good enough, it's trash you need to be saved from your low SES high minority school". This message of racism and classism ruins poor communities. Pride in your community and a shared common goals are key to changing life circumstances. Strong neighborhood schools are vital to self esteem which leads to later success.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


This is not really true. People like to say this because they feel it gives them leverage, but in reality it would better serve the public good to be rid of these leeches.


Whoever you are, you have made multiple posts in this same nasty vein. I get it, you're poor and angry. The rich aren't the leeches, they pay the majority of the taxes we all benefit from.

I'm not rich but upper middle I bring resources to my kids school that is a brood mix of SES. I make the class parties happen, I tutor kids who need extra help in the halls and I use my connections to bring money from local businesses to our school for all the kids. I have kids of all SES and race at my house to play every week.

You betcha your @$$, the public school would miss parents like me. And I am considering both private and moving because I am worn out. MCPS has really gone down hill, the curriculum, the overcrowding, the focus on mediocrity. I am watching any rezoning with a side eye, knowing it is the final straw.

I'm not the only one on my peer group who feels this way. Many have already moved or left for private and their presence is missed as the load fall on fewer and fewer parents who have the time, desire or resources to fill the void they leave behind. I'm burned out and comments like yours make me excited for my kid's interview next week. Let all the involved parents with resources, time and heart leave and you"ll find out who.the leeches are. Hint: it an't us.


TLDR it's high time we end segregation and chase these privileged leeches from our county!


Class envy is a poor look. I would point out your attitide is why you aren't successful in life. Chase out the money in the county that pays for everything, especially the schools, and it will be one big ghetto, but I guess that's your comfort zone. Bye now, I've got things to do. First on my list: volunteer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


This is not really true. People like to say this because they feel it gives them leverage, but in reality it would better serve the public good to be rid of these leeches.


Whoever you are, you have made multiple posts in this same nasty vein. I get it, you're poor and angry. The rich aren't the leeches, they pay the majority of the taxes we all benefit from.

I'm not rich but upper middle I bring resources to my kids school that is a brood mix of SES. I make the class parties happen, I tutor kids who need extra help in the halls and I use my connections to bring money from local businesses to our school for all the kids. I have kids of all SES and race at my house to play every week.

You betcha your @$$, the public school would miss parents like me. And I am considering both private and moving because I am worn out. MCPS has really gone down hill, the curriculum, the overcrowding, the focus on mediocrity. I am watching any rezoning with a side eye, knowing it is the final straw.

I'm not the only one on my peer group who feels this way. Many have already moved or left for private and their presence is missed as the load fall on fewer and fewer parents who have the time, desire or resources to fill the void they leave behind. I'm burned out and comments like yours make me excited for my kid's interview next week. Let all the involved parents with resources, time and heart leave and you"ll find out who.the leeches are. Hint: it an't us.


TLDR it's high time we end segregation and chase these privileged leeches from our county!


Class envy is a poor look. I would point out your attitide is why you aren't successful in life. Chase out the money in the county that pays for everything, especially the schools, and it will be one big ghetto, but I guess that's your comfort zone. Bye now, I've got things to do. First on my list: volunteer.


Nor is your desire to maintain status quo segregation and fight any effort to bring the county kicking and screaming into the post-civil rights era.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


This is not really true. People like to say this because they feel it gives them leverage, but in reality it would better serve the public good to be rid of these leeches.


Whoever you are, you have made multiple posts in this same nasty vein. I get it, you're poor and angry. The rich aren't the leeches, they pay the majority of the taxes we all benefit from.

I'm not rich but upper middle I bring resources to my kids school that is a brood mix of SES. I make the class parties happen, I tutor kids who need extra help in the halls and I use my connections to bring money from local businesses to our school for all the kids. I have kids of all SES and race at my house to play every week.

You betcha your @$$, the public school would miss parents like me. And I am considering both private and moving because I am worn out. MCPS has really gone down hill, the curriculum, the overcrowding, the focus on mediocrity. I am watching any rezoning with a side eye, knowing it is the final straw.

I'm not the only one on my peer group who feels this way. Many have already moved or left for private and their presence is missed as the load fall on fewer and fewer parents who have the time, desire or resources to fill the void they leave behind. I'm burned out and comments like yours make me excited for my kid's interview next week. Let all the involved parents with resources, time and heart leave and you"ll find out who.the leeches are. Hint: it an't us.


TLDR it's high time we end segregation and chase these privileged leeches from our county!


Class envy is a poor look. I would point out your attitide is why you aren't successful in life. Chase out the money in the county that pays for everything, especially the schools, and it will be one big ghetto, but I guess that's your comfort zone. Bye now, I've got things to do. First on my list: volunteer.[/quote]
Don't forget the Klan meeting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


This is not really true. People like to say this because they feel it gives them leverage, but in reality it would better serve the public good to be rid of these leeches.


Whoever you are, you have made multiple posts in this same nasty vein. I get it, you're poor and angry. The rich aren't the leeches, they pay the majority of the taxes we all benefit from.

I'm not rich but upper middle I bring resources to my kids school that is a brood mix of SES. I make the class parties happen, I tutor kids who need extra help in the halls and I use my connections to bring money from local businesses to our school for all the kids. I have kids of all SES and race at my house to play every week.

You betcha your @$$, the public school would miss parents like me. And I am considering both private and moving because I am worn out. MCPS has really gone down hill, the curriculum, the overcrowding, the focus on mediocrity. I am watching any rezoning with a side eye, knowing it is the final straw.

I'm not the only one on my peer group who feels this way. Many have already moved or left for private and their presence is missed as the load fall on fewer and fewer parents who have the time, desire or resources to fill the void they leave behind. I'm burned out and comments like yours make me excited for my kid's interview next week. Let all the involved parents with resources, time and heart leave and you"ll find out who.the leeches are. Hint: it an't us.


TLDR it's high time we end segregation and chase these privileged leeches from our county!


Class envy is a poor look. I would point out your attitide is why you aren't successful in life. Chase out the money in the county that pays for everything, especially the schools, and it will be one big ghetto, but I guess that's your comfort zone. Bye now, I've got things to do. First on my list: volunteer.

Don't forget the Klan meeting
Anonymous
The hilarious thing is that literally no one is suggesting busing - just balancing the boundaries a little to deal with schools that are overcrowded near schools that have space.

This means the MOST segregated communities are the safest, since their boundaries are least likely to touch an integrated school zone.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The hilarious thing is that literally no one is suggesting busing - just balancing the boundaries a little to deal with schools that are overcrowded near schools that have space.

This means the MOST segregated communities are the safest, since their boundaries are least likely to touch an integrated school zone.



Yup. But that doesn't sound scary enough, I guess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If rezoning does occur, the issues facing transportation will become a logistical nightmare, especially with the magnet school trans patterns.

I think people forget how powerful money is in these cases - not school system money, but family money. Those who can afford million dollar homes in high SES areas can also afford private school. Others with means may move - and even if it's a stretch, many will make the sacrifice.

Perception is everything.


A logistical nightmare to increase an area's effective school capacity by rezoning some students in an over-capacity school to an adjoining, under-capacity school? How so? And if so, how come DCUM has been yelling for MCPS to do just that for years?


Over-capacity is the PC way of saying desegregation.

funny thing about this situation . . .

the "understanding" that minorities will benefit by being sent to a school that's either majority white or high SES - That's the blanketed message no one wants to state out loud.

The issue is not resolved through busing. This is a simplistic approach that's part of the "blame game." Kids should not be made ashamed of their home school, yet this is the message we're sending by examining this approach. Instead, teachers be provided the autonomy (and respect!) to do what's best for their students.



Yes!!!! All. Day. Long. It's degrading to minorities to essentially say "only white rich schools are good enough, your school isn't good enough, it's trash you need to be saved from your low SES high minority school". This message of racism and classism ruins poor communities. Pride in your community and a shared common goals are key to changing life circumstances. Strong neighborhood schools are vital to self esteem which leads to later success.


+100

My kids ate at a Focus school and I agree completely. Most parents at my kids’ elementary school would rather have a stronger school than have their kids bussed farther away. Absolutely.
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