Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a big bike fan, but it's just wrong for cyclists to want to bike on major, heavy-traffic arteries with no bike infrastructure during rush hour, and NOT expect increased risk to themselves and to incur the wrath of drivers. It's just not polite or being a good citizen to do that. I love biking and I wish we had more opportunities to do it safely. But the answer is NOT to deliberately misuse traffic arteries.

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I love biking, and would love nothing more than to get to bike to work every day. But when biking to work means slowing down countless people behind me, all having precious minutes shaved off their day- on a commute they no doubt planned and calculated as fitting a normal speed for a car- I don't understand how anyone could do that or thing that it's acceptable. Hopefully the city will make better bike routes, but until then, I'll limit my riding to times when I know it's not inconveniencing hundreds of people.

Not sure which city or county you live in, but DC, Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, City of Falls Church, and, yes, Montgomery all want MORE people to bike commute to help county/city goals on congestion, air pollution, and health. Its not selfish at all.

Again, it is hard to make sense of these posts when the "bike commuting is bad" people won't say where they are referring to.

AFAICT the few occasions when someone will admit where they live, its the slice of MoCo in and near Potomac. Not surprising so many entitled people on both sides there.

I'm in Bethesda, right off River Road. Pretty sure no one has any issue with you biking to work- so long as you stay off the major thoroughfares and don't inconvenience everyone else.

Its always frigging River Road. Look I don't ride on friggin River Road, and cant answer all the issues there - but the stuff that gets posted by folks is not limited by area and does not make sense for most of the region. For example there are plenty of arterials in DC where, until new bike lanes are added, riding in the general travel lane makes absolute sense. And in Arlington. And in Alexandria.

Why do you people have to dominate discussion of biking in this forum? Because you live in frigging Potomac? Don't you have some listserve to complain to?

THEN GTFO! Did you not read the title? Are you illiterate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about roads that have separate bike lanes/paths but bikers ride in the road ANYWAY!!! Like on the GW Parkway. WTH? I even saw someone biking across the 14th street bridge on 395.

They're selfish pigs and can't help themselves.

There is one spot where the entrance ramp is not well signed, and people do that (rarely) by mistake).

Not sure what you mean by GW Parkway. I ride the Mount Vernon Trail next to GWMP regularly, and have never seen a cyclist riding with the cars on GWMP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a big bike fan, but it's just wrong for cyclists to want to bike on major, heavy-traffic arteries with no bike infrastructure during rush hour, and NOT expect increased risk to themselves and to incur the wrath of drivers. It's just not polite or being a good citizen to do that. I love biking and I wish we had more opportunities to do it safely. But the answer is NOT to deliberately misuse traffic arteries.

+1000

I love biking, and would love nothing more than to get to bike to work every day. But when biking to work means slowing down countless people behind me, all having precious minutes shaved off their day- on a commute they no doubt planned and calculated as fitting a normal speed for a car- I don't understand how anyone could do that or thing that it's acceptable. Hopefully the city will make better bike routes, but until then, I'll limit my riding to times when I know it's not inconveniencing hundreds of people.

Not sure which city or county you live in, but DC, Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, City of Falls Church, and, yes, Montgomery all want MORE people to bike commute to help county/city goals on congestion, air pollution, and health. Its not selfish at all.

Again, it is hard to make sense of these posts when the "bike commuting is bad" people won't say where they are referring to.

AFAICT the few occasions when someone will admit where they live, its the slice of MoCo in and near Potomac. Not surprising so many entitled people on both sides there.

I'm in Bethesda, right off River Road. Pretty sure no one has any issue with you biking to work- so long as you stay off the major thoroughfares and don't inconvenience everyone else.

Its always frigging River Road. Look I don't ride on friggin River Road, and cant answer all the issues there - but the stuff that gets posted by folks is not limited by area and does not make sense for most of the region. For example there are plenty of arterials in DC where, until new bike lanes are added, riding in the general travel lane makes absolute sense. And in Arlington. And in Alexandria.

Why do you people have to dominate discussion of biking in this forum? Because you live in frigging Potomac? Don't you have some listserve to complain to?

THEN GTFO! Did you not read the title? Are you illiterate?

The OP was answered (the folks ARE commuters) well before I got here. The rest of the discussion has been more general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a big bike fan, but it's just wrong for cyclists to want to bike on major, heavy-traffic arteries with no bike infrastructure during rush hour, and NOT expect increased risk to themselves and to incur the wrath of drivers. It's just not polite or being a good citizen to do that. I love biking and I wish we had more opportunities to do it safely. But the answer is NOT to deliberately misuse traffic arteries.

+1000

I love biking, and would love nothing more than to get to bike to work every day. But when biking to work means slowing down countless people behind me, all having precious minutes shaved off their day- on a commute they no doubt planned and calculated as fitting a normal speed for a car- I don't understand how anyone could do that or thing that it's acceptable. Hopefully the city will make better bike routes, but until then, I'll limit my riding to times when I know it's not inconveniencing hundreds of people.

Not sure which city or county you live in, but DC, Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, City of Falls Church, and, yes, Montgomery all want MORE people to bike commute to help county/city goals on congestion, air pollution, and health. Its not selfish at all.

Again, it is hard to make sense of these posts when the "bike commuting is bad" people won't say where they are referring to.

AFAICT the few occasions when someone will admit where they live, its the slice of MoCo in and near Potomac. Not surprising so many entitled people on both sides there.

I'm in Bethesda, right off River Road. Pretty sure no one has any issue with you biking to work- so long as you stay off the major thoroughfares and don't inconvenience everyone else.

Its always frigging River Road. Look I don't ride on friggin River Road, and cant answer all the issues there - but the stuff that gets posted by folks is not limited by area and does not make sense for most of the region. For example there are plenty of arterials in DC where, until new bike lanes are added, riding in the general travel lane makes absolute sense. And in Arlington. And in Alexandria.

Why do you people have to dominate discussion of biking in this forum? Because you live in frigging Potomac? Don't you have some listserve to complain to?

THEN GTFO! Did you not read the title? Are you illiterate?

The OP was answered (the folks ARE commuters) well before I got here. The rest of the discussion has been more general.

You must be a tricyclist. The cluelessness of someone saying "it's always about [subject explicitly stated in the title]". Yes, let's talk about what YOU want to talk about. It's not like the entire thread is about a different topic...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does the poster who keeps using the word "tricycle" not understand the word they're looking for is "bicycle"? Or do they think this is clever for some reason? I'm genuinely puzzled - I guess if it's supposed to be the latter, I'm missing it. They just kinda sound deranged and senile.

They're making fun of you.

I get that they are trying to do that. My point is that they fail. Like others have noted, it sounds like they're referring to recumbent bikes or cargo bikes. Mainly gives the impression they're not just rage-y, but also very dim-witted and dorky.

A nerd bicyclist, who almost always look like white guys who were viciously bullied in high school, has absolutely no credibility when determining what succeeds and fails in the social realm. Sorry.

Wow. Fence sitters, take note. We "nerds" are, in our nerdy ways, trying to give facts. Mr Deplorable is trying to exercise dominance out of who knows what source of resentment (and I am pretty sure it is not traffic delay - its about "childishness" "bike tights" and "people who were bullied" - there is something pschosexual going on with the guy talking about "trikes")

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a big bike fan, but it's just wrong for cyclists to want to bike on major, heavy-traffic arteries with no bike infrastructure during rush hour, and NOT expect increased risk to themselves and to incur the wrath of drivers. It's just not polite or being a good citizen to do that. I love biking and I wish we had more opportunities to do it safely. But the answer is NOT to deliberately misuse traffic arteries.

+1000

I love biking, and would love nothing more than to get to bike to work every day. But when biking to work means slowing down countless people behind me, all having precious minutes shaved off their day- on a commute they no doubt planned and calculated as fitting a normal speed for a car- I don't understand how anyone could do that or thing that it's acceptable. Hopefully the city will make better bike routes, but until then, I'll limit my riding to times when I know it's not inconveniencing hundreds of people.

Not sure which city or county you live in, but DC, Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, City of Falls Church, and, yes, Montgomery all want MORE people to bike commute to help county/city goals on congestion, air pollution, and health. Its not selfish at all.

Again, it is hard to make sense of these posts when the "bike commuting is bad" people won't say where they are referring to.

AFAICT the few occasions when someone will admit where they live, its the slice of MoCo in and near Potomac. Not surprising so many entitled people on both sides there.

I'm in Bethesda, right off River Road. Pretty sure no one has any issue with you biking to work- so long as you stay off the major thoroughfares and don't inconvenience everyone else.

Its always frigging River Road. Look I don't ride on friggin River Road, and cant answer all the issues there - but the stuff that gets posted by folks is not limited by area and does not make sense for most of the region. For example there are plenty of arterials in DC where, until new bike lanes are added, riding in the general travel lane makes absolute sense. And in Arlington. And in Alexandria.

Why do you people have to dominate discussion of biking in this forum? Because you live in frigging Potomac? Don't you have some listserve to complain to?

THEN GTFO! Did you not read the title? Are you illiterate?

The OP was answered (the folks ARE commuters) well before I got here. The rest of the discussion has been more general.

You must be a tricyclist. The cluelessness of someone saying "it's always about [subject explicitly stated in the title]". Yes, let's talk about what YOU want to talk about. It's not like the entire thread is about a different topic...

I am explaining why confining cyclists to trails or sidewalks is not a good idea.

If you hate River Road so much, maybe you should move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the poster who keeps using the word "tricycle" not understand the word they're looking for is "bicycle"? Or do they think this is clever for some reason? I'm genuinely puzzled - I guess if it's supposed to be the latter, I'm missing it. They just kinda sound deranged and senile.

They're making fun of you.

I get that they are trying to do that. My point is that they fail. Like others have noted, it sounds like they're referring to recumbent bikes or cargo bikes. Mainly gives the impression they're not just rage-y, but also very dim-witted and dorky.

A nerd bicyclist, who almost always look like white guys who were viciously bullied in high school, has absolutely no credibility when determining what succeeds and fails in the social realm. Sorry.

Wow. Fence sitters, take note. We "nerds" are, in our nerdy ways, trying to give facts. Mr Deplorable is trying to exercise dominance out of who knows what source of resentment (and I am pretty sure it is not traffic delay - its about "childishness" "bike tights" and "people who were bullied" - there is something pschosexual going on with the guy talking about "trikes")

Snort. You wish ANYONE had a sexual preoccupation with you of any kind at all. Keep dreaming, you sad little geek.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a big bike fan, but it's just wrong for cyclists to want to bike on major, heavy-traffic arteries with no bike infrastructure during rush hour, and NOT expect increased risk to themselves and to incur the wrath of drivers. It's just not polite or being a good citizen to do that. I love biking and I wish we had more opportunities to do it safely. But the answer is NOT to deliberately misuse traffic arteries.

+1000

I love biking, and would love nothing more than to get to bike to work every day. But when biking to work means slowing down countless people behind me, all having precious minutes shaved off their day- on a commute they no doubt planned and calculated as fitting a normal speed for a car- I don't understand how anyone could do that or thing that it's acceptable. Hopefully the city will make better bike routes, but until then, I'll limit my riding to times when I know it's not inconveniencing hundreds of people.

Not sure which city or county you live in, but DC, Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, City of Falls Church, and, yes, Montgomery all want MORE people to bike commute to help county/city goals on congestion, air pollution, and health. Its not selfish at all.

Again, it is hard to make sense of these posts when the "bike commuting is bad" people won't say where they are referring to.

AFAICT the few occasions when someone will admit where they live, its the slice of MoCo in and near Potomac. Not surprising so many entitled people on both sides there.

I'm in Bethesda, right off River Road. Pretty sure no one has any issue with you biking to work- so long as you stay off the major thoroughfares and don't inconvenience everyone else.

Its always frigging River Road. Look I don't ride on friggin River Road, and cant answer all the issues there - but the stuff that gets posted by folks is not limited by area and does not make sense for most of the region. For example there are plenty of arterials in DC where, until new bike lanes are added, riding in the general travel lane makes absolute sense. And in Arlington. And in Alexandria.

Why do you people have to dominate discussion of biking in this forum? Because you live in frigging Potomac? Don't you have some listserve to complain to?

THEN GTFO! Did you not read the title? Are you illiterate?

The OP was answered (the folks ARE commuters) well before I got here. The rest of the discussion has been more general.

You must be a tricyclist. The cluelessness of someone saying "it's always about [subject explicitly stated in the title]". Yes, let's talk about what YOU want to talk about. It's not like the entire thread is about a different topic...

I am explaining why confining cyclists to trails or sidewalks is not a good idea.

If you hate River Road so much, maybe you should move.

I don't, I love it. Especially when I can plow past tricyclists with my horn on full blast.

[Anonymous]

I still stand by my original statement. Keep bikes off of roads that have speed limits over 25 MPH and all the issues go away.

I think everyone can agree a bike on an arterial road is dangerous (mostly for themselves) and there is no way they can keep up with traffic

When DC designs bike paths (not separate bike lanes but where people use the road) they purposely keep them off main streets which makes sense

The things that ticks me off most in DC is people on bikes using roads when there are bike lanes/bike routes less than 1-2 blocks over. Examples H street Conn/Mass ave etc any street in downtown DC when there is a bikelane street close by etc. There are plenty of bikepaths use them bikers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still stand by my original statement. Keep bikes off of roads that have speed limits over 25 MPH and all the issues go away.

I think everyone can agree a bike on an arterial road is dangerous (mostly for themselves) and there is no way they can keep up with traffic

When DC designs bike paths (not separate bike lanes but where people use the road) they purposely keep them off main streets which makes sense

The things that ticks me off most in DC is people on bikes using roads when there are bike lanes/bike routes less than 1-2 blocks over. Examples H street Conn/Mass ave etc any street in downtown DC when there is a bikelane street close by etc. There are plenty of bikepaths use them bikers.

+10000


The height of selfishness and recklessness.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I run a camera on my helmet. Drivers should be aware that if they participate in dangerous and illegal behavior they may be held to account.

I’m quaking in my boots waiting for the cops to come to my door about my honking at you. Good luck, trike.

Honking is not dangerous to cyclists. It might annoy the neighbors though.

I'm glad you think so. That's why I will use this considerate technique on all cyclists I see.

You really are an a$$hole and an idiot - what kind of SUV do you drive and how long is your commute?

It's a big one. You'll find out when I'm behind you, I'm sure.

Not a biker but am I reading this right? An antisocial middle-aged woman from MD in a soccer-mom car is making fun of someone's appearance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still stand by my original statement. Keep bikes off of roads that have speed limits over 25 MPH and all the issues go away.

I think everyone can agree a bike on an arterial road is dangerous (mostly for themselves) and there is no way they can keep up with traffic

When DC designs bike paths (not separate bike lanes but where people use the road) they purposely keep them off main streets which makes sense

The things that ticks me off most in DC is people on bikes using roads when there are bike lanes/bike routes less than 1-2 blocks over. Examples H street Conn/Mass ave etc any street in downtown DC when there is a bikelane street close by etc. There are plenty of bikepaths use them bikers.


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1. There are places where there is no good route that avoids a 35MPH road.

2. In fact those can be relatively safe for a fast cyclist, especially when they are multiple lanes, so there is another lane for easy passing (at congested times when the other lane is njot an easy option, they are not going at 35MPH anyway)

3. At some point it is worth asking if 35MPH arterials even make sense in urban areas - they create problems for pedestrians at crosswalks, not only for people on bikes.

4. By bike path that is not a bike lane, I presume you mean a sharrows? Sure, inexperienced riders do not belong on 35MPH without bike lanes. But some riders are faster and more experienced

5. Cyclists, like everyone else, prefer to go directly to their destination. Occasionally someone is not even aware of an alternate route, because of poor signage. And sometimes the alternate route has problems only known to people who actually ride bikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still stand by my original statement. Keep bikes off of roads that have speed limits over 25 MPH and all the issues go away.

I think everyone can agree a bike on an arterial road is dangerous (mostly for themselves) and there is no way they can keep up with traffic

When DC designs bike paths (not separate bike lanes but where people use the road) they purposely keep them off main streets which makes sense

The things that ticks me off most in DC is people on bikes using roads when there are bike lanes/bike routes less than 1-2 blocks over. Examples H street Conn/Mass ave etc any street in downtown DC when there is a bikelane street close by etc. There are plenty of bikepaths use them bikers.

Why do you drive on the route you use, instead of using a different route? Almost certainly the people on bicycles are bicycling on the route they use, instead of a different route, for the same reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a big bike fan, but it's just wrong for cyclists to want to bike on major, heavy-traffic arteries with no bike infrastructure during rush hour, and NOT expect increased risk to themselves and to incur the wrath of drivers. It's just not polite or being a good citizen to do that. I love biking and I wish we had more opportunities to do it safely. But the answer is NOT to deliberately misuse traffic arteries.

+1000

I love biking, and would love nothing more than to get to bike to work every day. But when biking to work means slowing down countless people behind me, all having precious minutes shaved off their day- on a commute they no doubt planned and calculated as fitting a normal speed for a car- I don't understand how anyone could do that or thing that it's acceptable. Hopefully the city will make better bike routes, but until then, I'll limit my riding to times when I know it's not inconveniencing hundreds of people.

Not sure which city or county you live in, but DC, Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, City of Falls Church, and, yes, Montgomery all want MORE people to bike commute to help county/city goals on congestion, air pollution, and health. Its not selfish at all.

Again, it is hard to make sense of these posts when the "bike commuting is bad" people won't say where they are referring to.

AFAICT the few occasions when someone will admit where they live, its the slice of MoCo in and near Potomac. Not surprising so many entitled people on both sides there.

I'm in Bethesda, right off River Road. Pretty sure no one has any issue with you biking to work- so long as you stay off the major thoroughfares and don't inconvenience everyone else.

Its always frigging River Road. Look I don't ride on friggin River Road, and cant answer all the issues there - but the stuff that gets posted by folks is not limited by area and does not make sense for most of the region. For example there are plenty of arterials in DC where, until new bike lanes are added, riding in the general travel lane makes absolute sense. And in Arlington. And in Alexandria.

Why do you people have to dominate discussion of biking in this forum? Because you live in frigging Potomac? Don't you have some listserve to complain to?

THEN GTFO! Did you not read the title? Are you illiterate?

The OP was answered (the folks ARE commuters) well before I got here. The rest of the discussion has been more general.

You must be a tricyclist. The cluelessness of someone saying "it's always about [subject explicitly stated in the title]". Yes, let's talk about what YOU want to talk about. It's not like the entire thread is about a different topic...

I am explaining why confining cyclists to trails or sidewalks is not a good idea.

If you hate River Road so much, maybe you should move.

I don't, I love it. Especially when I can plow past tricyclists with my horn on full blast.

You don't sound very happy. Perhaps its because you live in a County that has a goal of getting MORE people on bikes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I run a camera on my helmet. Drivers should be aware that if they participate in dangerous and illegal behavior they may be held to account.

I’m quaking in my boots waiting for the cops to come to my door about my honking at you. Good luck, trike.

Honking is not dangerous to cyclists. It might annoy the neighbors though.

I'm glad you think so. That's why I will use this considerate technique on all cyclists I see.

You really are an a$$hole and an idiot - what kind of SUV do you drive and how long is your commute?

It's a big one. You'll find out when I'm behind you, I'm sure.

Not a biker but am I reading this right? An antisocial middle-aged woman from MD in a soccer-mom car is making fun of someone's appearance?

Nope. In fact you seem to have imagined a scenario that is pure fiction. Wishful thinking from a nerd.